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Pedro - What's Your Take?

Well, after his start against the Brewers, giving up only 3 hits but 5 runs, Pedro said he felt "draggy." That start was a little weird, as he looked excellent except for the two innings in which the Brewers scored off of him. Today, 5 hits, 5 runs, 4 earned. On the one hand, I didn't like what I saw out there today. On the other hand, I suppose you could say it was mainly one batter (Grudzielanek) that really nailed him. But I think that would be rationalizing away a poor start. He definitely didn't have his "A" game today.

Last season, which was certainly uncharacteristic, after 8 starts, Pedro's ERA was 3.73; he'd had 6 quality starts, and the Red Sox were 5-1 in those. Pedro had 2 bad starts (one against Baltimore, the other against Texas). One of the quality starts was a game against the Yankess (whose offense was struggling at the time), in which he went 7 innings and gave up no runs.

This season, after 8 starts, Pedro's ERA is 3.38. He's had 5 quality starts, and the Mets are 4-1 in those. Only Looper (in the 1st game of the season) prevented that from being a 5-0 record in Pedro's quality starts. He's had one start that I'd call mediocre (against Atlanta), where he gave up 4 runs, and we lost. The start against the Brewers was weird. It's hard for me to call it bad, since his command/control looked really good, i.e. he was hitting his spots, throwing a lot of strikes, and innings 1-3, 5-6 were perfect. I read one story in which the writer said something along the lines that few pitchers could look so good while giving up 5 runs. Still, you certainly don't expect him to give up 5 runs to the Brewers. But at least the Mets won that one.

I'd characterize today's start as bad. Not a total stinker or a blowout, but not what I want to see from Pedro. Like last year, he's starting to give up too many homers. Take away those 2 homers today, and we get a win.

Let's look at 2003. That year, Pedro only gave up 7 home runs all season. After 8 starts, his ERA was 3.15. He'd had 6 quality starts and 2 bad ones, one really bad in which Grady Little left him in to give up 10 ER. In his 6 quality starts, he had 1 game in which he gave up no runs period (against Tampa Bay), and 2 other starts where he gave up no earned runs (once against Tampa, once against Texas).

One of my concerns this year is that he hasn't had a game yet where the opponent hasn't scored. That's not Pedro-like. Not that a 3.38 ERA is bad after 8 starts. But considering he's given up so few hits, you'd think his ERA would be microscopic, and we'd be 8-0 in his starts, assuming everyone else (bullpen, offense, defense) does their job. I'd obviously prefer that those hits be harmless and not score any runs. As it stands, we're now 5-3 in Pedro starts. That's very good, but 6-2 is what I would have expected, again, assuming everyone else on the team does their job.

Again, I'm not trying to slam Pedro. He's been my all-time favorite pitcher for awhile now. I don't expect him to be perfect, but I doubt that he's happy with his performance today. Let's hope he can do a better job of keeping runners from scoring and keeping the ball in the park.

If you haven't already read Damien Heath's brief study over at metsgeek.com, it's very interesting and relevant to this post.

P.S. I may be prematurely concerned -- after all, it's only 8 starts. Mainly I'm wondering what the rest of you think. Also, I realize I focused a lot on ERA, and there are many other stats/factors associated with evaluating pitching performance. But this wasn't intended to be an official analysis. Like I said, I'm just wondering what others think.

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I'm hoping some others can post more details on Pedro's peripheral stats so far, since I'm too lazy to look them up now.  Here's a knee-jerk opinion.

To be honest, I'm not at all concerned about Pedro for the next year or two.  In fact, I now think we've gotten a better deal on this contract than it appeared during the off-season.  His velocity is certainly down from his years of complete domination, but he's looked awfully good at times already this year, like a true ace, and he's a big-game pitcher of a kind the Mets have been lacking since Mike Hampton left, a guy who really muscles up when he wants to.  

The bumps in Pedro's road have mainly been the homers he's given up, as you say.  To some extent this has always been the way Pedro got beaten -- his breaking stuff is so good that some batters will just guess fastball, and they're bound to be right occasionally.  Today's game, more than the others, did get me worried a bit: why let Grudzielanek, of all people, beat you? Pedro should be able to put him away without a moment's thought.  But if there's one thing Pedro has shown Mets fans already it's how smart he is: the guy will always be able to adapt.  I have confidence that he didn't go to sleep tonight without watching a lot of tape of Mark Grudzielanek.  And I have confidence that Grudz won't be able to scratch so much as a bloop single the next time those two square off.

by anonymous on May 15, 2005 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Some other stats
Well, as of now, his K/9 is 10.77, BAA is .153 (1st in NL), WHIP 0.73 (1st in NL), K/BB ratio is 67K/11BB, which is excellent. I'm not concerned about his velocity. His intelligence and adaptability (as you pointed out), and his usual good command make up for that. And he can still bring on some pretty good heaters when he has to. He's doing a great job of keeping men off base, and despite what some experts have said, I think pitchers (depending on their talent) are capable to some extent of influencing balls in play, i.e. inducing pop-ups, getting batters to hit harmless grounders, etc. But once men get on, it seems that they're scoring too often. The slugging percentage against him is pretty high. (See Damien's article.)

I do feel better after reading this blurb in an AP article:
"I didn't have a good changeup today," Martinez said. "It kept flying around. I was leaving it up. Sometimes it's lack of work in the bullpen. I didn't throw this time between starts."
Maybe he didn't throw between starts because he said he didn't feel well during his Milwaukee start?

Anyway, hopefully he can make quick work of the Yankees. I'd love to see him mow them down.  

by Max in NJ on May 15, 2005 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm glad the first time he's facing them this year is in Shea.  Tino Martinez is king of that short right field homer -- He'll not hit over Cameron's head in Shea.
"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner

by dissento on May 15, 2005 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"See Damien's article"
I can't seem to find the MetsGeek.com article on Pedro you're referring to.  Can you provide a link?

by anonymous on May 15, 2005 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the link
From metsgeek, Damien provides a link to his own blog for more info. Anyway, here's the link to the article at metsgeek:

http://www.metsgeek.com/main/articles/2005/05/03/notes-on-pedro/

by Max in NJ on May 15, 2005 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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