Diary: Urine good hands?
(moved from diaries; good discussion here --eric)
ESPN says the Mets are close to signing old man Alou: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2667558
Alou had pretty good stats last season in limited action, but he's old and I'm not confident he can stay healthy for a full season. Would he be materially better than Milledge or Green? I don't think so.
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I'd be ok with Alou for 1 season
not a great idea.
Well, Alou aside
Also, I'm reasonably sure that even if the Alou deal happens that it won't be Omar's last position-player move this off-season, so we'll have to wait and see what he has in mind. If Alou is healthy, he's just what the Mets need, actually, other than his sub-par defense, but I hate to see him tying up the space for multiple years.
expense
Players
1) Sign high-risk (injury concerns or age) players to bigger money one-year deals
2) Sign superstars to big money long-term deals
If the Mets only have to guarantee one year, they could do far worse than Moises Alou in 2007 for $9 million or whatever he may sign for. Two or three guaranteed years, that's a problem. One year at big money is not a big deal, especially for a team with the revenue of the Mets. If he's terrible or he gets injured they can sweep his salary under the carpet and forget about him, knowing that he'll be gone at the end of the season.
Long-term, you sign players like Carlos Beltran, young players about to hit their prime who can hit and play premium defensive positions. Superstars. With all due respect to this year's crop of free agents, guys like Soriano, Carlos Lee, etc. aren't superstars, they're just going to be paid like they are.
We know Omar Minaya isn't afraid to sign an aging star, and I think we can all agree that the free agents available right now aren't exactly drool-worthy. If ever there was a year to sign free agents to short-term big money deals it's this one. The pool of available players is uninspiring, so I think it's a reasonable approach to patch the holes for the time being and bide your time until the next superstar becomes available either via trade or free agency.
short is right.
I don't disagree with your thinking,
The matzusaka deal is going to bugger this
not for hitters though
The Soriano deal
So....
I think there is an additional factor, though I could be wrong: Isn't there an Expo connection between Omar & Moises? One nice last payday for some old friend, so to speak-- one last chance for glory and the World Series?
I'm a little puzzled by the move too
By August, after chasing all those balls...
by madisonmetsfan on Nov 19, 2006 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Alou
Year Floyd Alou --------------------- 1996 117 143 1997 61 150 1998 153 159 1999 69 0 2000 121 126 2001 149 136 2002 146 132 2003 108 151 2004 113 155 2005 150 123 2006 97 98As long as the Mets hedge their bets and carry a capable backup/platoon partner for Alou, I still don't hate this deal. In fact, Endy Chavez might actually be the perfect platoon partner; he is roughly the exact opposite of Alou: fast, great glove, lefty with a weak bat, while Alou is slow, embarrassing in the field and a righty with a still-potent bat.
Assuming health (always dangerous), Moises Alou is still a better hitter at 40 than Floyd is at 35. Floyd still has better wheels and is more fleet afoot, but Alou has been very productive offensively these past three seasons (and for his whole career in general).
Does Alou's Productivity....
Alou Home and Away
That said, Alou was a much better hitter at home last year. Home: OBP: 407, SLG: .677. Away: OBP: .303, SLG: 481
Retraction
park factors
Alou
Shea is actually a really tough park on right-handed power hitters (though pretty good for left-handed power hitters). I would expect Alou's production to lag somewhat at Shea, but he's still a good enough hitter that some of his homeruns will turn into doubles and, if healthy, I think he'll still be a solid right-handed bat for them next season.
Not Bad
I think that a deal involving Millidge is in the works. Omar seems to be loading up on outfielders.
On second thought
This Thanksgiving, be thankful Omar isn't this dumb.
holy jesus h. christ.
and drop a bunch of fly balls in the sun
also:
there has been
Juan Pierre
by pj on Nov 20, 2006 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of Juan Pierre
Yup
he isn't that good a fielder
in addition
dodgers already have furcal
pewee pierre (cf)
furcal (ss)
no-mah (1b)
redneck kent (2b)
jd drew (if he re-ups)
betemit (3b)
marlon anderson?
the catcher guy
dodgers will somehow hit fewer HR than their pitiful 2006 total. w/o jd drew they better sign carlos lee.
by pj on Nov 22, 2006 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well they do have those 3 kids
Alou still a great hitter
Soriano had a fairly identical OPS but will make twice as much money as Alou will next year; to me thats a good deal for the Mets.
by nynarwhal on Nov 19, 2006 9:36 PM EST reply actions
"for a 39 year old"
by madisonmetsfan on Nov 20, 2006 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't like the suggestion in the Mets.com
Look, a one-year deal for a 40 year old is not a substitute for a 20-something toolsy rookie who we have at low cost for what...at least 5 years now?
I hope we at least get 3 years out of any star that we trade Milledge for, if that's the thinking.

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