Open Thread - Game 39: Mets vs Cardinals (05/17/2006) on SNY

by Eric Simon on May 17, 2006 5:54 PM EDT

Mark Mulder has been struggling this year, but Steve Trachsel is Steve Trachsel. The Mets really have to win tonight if they stand any chance of winning the series, as the specter of Lima Time! looms over tomorrow's matinee. Can't wait!?!

Let's go Mets!

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Whoa, what?

Explain this Mike and the Mad Dog thing to me, somebody?

by Nick T @ Amazin' Avenue on May 17, 2006 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

blowhard and the retard

will, unfortunately, be calling a mets game in the near future (vs. Phillies).

as far as i know they will not be calling tomorrow's game in St. Louis. If those douche's get to call a mets game started by Lima Time, then I should get to call a Skanks game when Scott Erickson starts for washed-up Randy Johnson.

Check out:
http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/5/16/1963159.html

Pedro offers you his protection.

by pj on May 17, 2006 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Again at full strength

everywhere but the mound, and last and certainly least, tonight's calls proudly botched by:

HP: Jim Reynolds. 1B: Tim Welke. 2B: Kerwin Danley. 3B: Gary Cederstrom.

by peeder on May 17, 2006 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

One bad call

One batter. Reyes clearly foul tipped that, but apparently the umpire missed the huge change in direction.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Would he have been safe at 1st?

Otherwise it's academic.

by peeder on May 17, 2006 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, if the catcher caught it.

by peeder on May 17, 2006 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Hit the ground

first.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Therefore

He was still alive and it was just a foul ball.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Beltran

grounds into the easy DP...did anyone see how bad of a jump Lo Duca got?

I noticed that, you guys think that they watered down the basepaths for Reyes?

by future on May 17, 2006 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

I'd like to say something

but it would be a "JINX"

by peeder on May 17, 2006 8:23 PM EDT reply actions

1-2-3

For Trachsel.

Good start.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:23 PM EDT reply actions

Wow

That 2-1 pitch was low and outside.

But Milwaukee leads 1-0 in the top of the second.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

Well apparently

putting the ball closer to the plate and higher is a ball when thrown to Edmonds.

Make a consistent strike zone, blue.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:36 PM EDT reply actions

Miles

makes a good play on a Matsui liner.

Stupid Phillies have taken the lead.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

Anyone else watching the game on ESPN?

It's nice to not have to watch the game on mlb.tv for once.

by future on May 17, 2006 8:55 PM EDT reply actions

Nice to see Steve get a strikeout

to get out of the inning. Rodriguez chases some high cheese.

by StuckInGA on May 17, 2006 9:03 PM EDT reply actions

Nice K by Trachsel

We're going to the 4th, scoreless.

by future on May 17, 2006 9:03 PM EDT reply actions

Beltran's

OPS is near 1000.

Delgado GIDP though.

Nice play by Rolen.

by future on May 17, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions

Good through 4

Another inning and it will be in the book.

by future on May 17, 2006 9:18 PM EDT reply actions

Matsui

bad swing there.

by future on May 17, 2006 9:24 PM EDT reply actions

This umpire is a whore

Both of those pitches to Trachsel were balls.

by future on May 17, 2006 9:27 PM EDT reply actions

where

is everyone tonight???

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 9:43 PM EDT reply actions

nothing to say

they're not doing anything.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess they're all off

partying this Wednesday away?

by future on May 17, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions

only

21 comment up until my question strange. Probably the Espn thing so a lot of people actually get to watch that don't normally.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 9:47 PM EDT reply actions

That stinks

nice hitting by Rolen though he went down and got it.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

What happened? I leave the room for 5 minutes

and suddenly it's 1-0 Cardinals?

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 9:52 PM EDT reply actions

The

unintentional/intentional walk to Pujols, get Edmonds and then Rolen doubled on a good 0-2 pitch.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

trachsel

a real gem.

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:08 PM EDT reply actions

That was

a great start for him. He is losing because of one good job by Rolen with the bat.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

matsui's

bad at bat didn't help

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:11 PM EDT reply actions

If anyone is interested

just saw that John Sickels over at his will have a Prospect Smackdown up tom comparing Mike Pelfrey and the skanks Phillip Hughes. Should be interesting.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:16 PM EDT reply actions

We need

a rally time to get on JOse I would love to see Looper.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:27 PM EDT reply actions

Reyes

PLD bunt?

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I give him

a shotto go the other way but i am not the manager I guess.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions

can't kill the move

brings in the infield in Beltran against an extreme ground ball pitcher. Willie wants this one bad. Betran needs to run here

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Too late

to send him now.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

JOSE REYES

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:28 PM EDT reply actions

That

ball looked fair but ump had a good view.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:30 PM EDT reply actions

not crazy

about the bunt there

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:30 PM EDT reply actions

R they

pitching around him to setup the DP. Ok do you send Beltran and Jose at the ready if they throw through.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions

yes Beltran must run

no way they throw though

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

OK, time for some Max mojo ...

Go Delgado!! Drive in Jose! You can do it! Get a hit!

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions

Max send

the mojo to our boy DW.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions

Izzy

Hasn't been good. The Mets own him some comeuppance for some his remarks over they year.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions

Wright has been hot tonight.

He's going to come up big here. I can feel it. Go David!!

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:36 PM EDT reply actions

Old Mets Savior

against new savior

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:37 PM EDT reply actions

C'mon, DW, you can do it!

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:37 PM EDT reply actions

come on

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:38 PM EDT reply actions

Damn

Let's go uncle Cliffy

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

Damn.

Still, we never give up. C'mon Cliffy!

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:40 PM EDT reply actions

Floyd's got a good eye. Maybe he can draw a walk

to tie the game. Get on base any way you can Cliff. Get that rbi!

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:41 PM EDT reply actions

He tried

to take one for the team.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:42 PM EDT reply actions

That hurts

after the ninth inning chance to rally.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:43 PM EDT reply actions

damn

Lima time tommorow. Shit

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 17, 2006 10:43 PM EDT reply actions

The DW

K hurts especially because it seemed that the first pitch was the best he saw and perfect for the opposite field Sac fly that usually puts out there.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:44 PM EDT reply actions

floyd

He missed two pitches right down middle. he's way off. Tip your hat to the pitchers. Again, bad in the clutch. maybe lima will surprise us tomorrow whose pitching for cards

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:46 PM EDT reply actions

I think Jason Marquis goes for the Cards

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm late to the party, but...

Was anyone else wondering where Floyd was on that RBI hit by Rolen? It was hit to left-center, and Floyd didn't even come into the picture on the TV, let alone cut it off. I wanted to see a replay from a different angle.

If Floyd cuts that ball off, Pujols doesn't score.

The fault lies with the Mets offense for this loss, and with Willie's questionable bunt call in the ninth, but if Pujols didn't score FROM FIRST on that hit, it would have been a different game.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 10:47 PM EDT reply actions

Hard to fault Willie

he was trying to score without a hit. The fastest man in the league was on third with one out. How many clutch hits have you seen the Mets get in the last few weeks? Blaming Willie for a bunt when we had the bases loaded with one out is silly. D Wright did not get the job done. The strike three pitch looked very hittable.

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed, but

I don't think the bunt was totally a wrong call, just questionable. That sac out ultimately proved to be quite precious. Why not let PLD try to put one in play? He doesn't strike out much. If it was anyone else up there, I might say bunt.

The Mets were playing for the tie, and it's hard to win in extras on the road.

Yeah, Delgado and Wright unable to get a ball in the air, that was pretty bad. And Floyd, I just feel bad for him.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Delgado got hit by a pitch

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I know

But he saw a few pitches before that.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions

But he got hit

his at bat did not finish. It would be like blaming Beltran for walking.

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I think

his point is that he would have liked to see him get one of the first pitches he saw in the air to drive the run in. He is not blaming just saying that maybe he could have gotten a sac fly on an earlier pitch.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I really do not think that is fair

he never had a full shot to do that- he got hit by a pitch. You cannot lump Delgado's at bat and Wright's at bat together. Delgado now has to get a sac fly in the right number of pitches? We as fans are so very protective of Wright and that is fine. Bottom line is he messed up the inning, not Willie, Delgado or even Cliffy. which is fine. No one is perfect and baseball is a game of failure. But let's not start blaming guys for not getting sac flys when they got hit by pitches.

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

If you look at the

post game comments I put the blame on Wright fully I was just stating where it appeared to me King was coming from.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I know

I disagree with his point

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't read too much into my "point"

See my comment below.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions

no kidding

I'm not blaming Delgado, just saying that things didn't work out as planned--the Mets had their biggest bats up, they needed one of them to get a fly ball (or a walk in Wright's case), and it didn't happen.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

not crazy

about bunt either, but Willie figured one of the big hitters could get run in. they just didn't. Floyd may have been positioning Rolen to pull more.YOu can't blame him for that, but he's killing the team with his hitting

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:50 PM EDT reply actions

nobody is coming thru in clutch

that means that everybody is pressing.

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:54 PM EDT reply actions

That's why he bunted

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly

I can't fault Willie for bunting. He got sir speedy to to third with the 3 and 4 hitters coming up and only 1 out.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions

If everyone needs someone to blame in

the 9th it was Wright. Anything but a K or pop up gets it done. Double play ball you have to live with because it was probably hit hard.

by Art Vandaley on May 17, 2006 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Unfortunate but true

I still say like my previous post the first pitch in his AB looked like a perfect opposite field sac fly and yes I thought it when I saw the first pitch. Not sure if he has seen Izzy though so he may have wanted to make him throw a strike and see his release.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

well

I don't like the bunt because you're playing for tie on the road and LoDuca has been pretty clutch so if he gets an extra base hit you're in position to win. Anyway, I'm not killing Willie for it. somebody had to get at least a fly ball there.

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions

In that

spot you can argue with his choice either way but someone has to get a ball in the air or through the drawn in infield. I was actually thinking it might be worth and very gutsy to ask DW to drop one down and make them get the out at home or turn 2 but that would be ballsy.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:04 PM EDT reply actions

no way

that's real silly

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I know

sometimes I sit here and think of weird things and that would be weird unexpected and you Jose speed on 3rd.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

At least the Phils lost.

by BlueYonder on May 17, 2006 11:14 PM EDT reply actions

Yep

Thank you Brewers if anyone saw the finally play Aaron Rowand would have caught the ball. Now if Fla can ever hold a lead and beat the Braves.

by udamnwright on May 17, 2006 11:18 PM EDT reply actions

a hypothetical

Say around the trade deadline the mets are close, but Floyd never gets going do you trade Milledge for Manny

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 11:30 PM EDT reply actions

no

Bring Milledge in and put him in left field.

by kingcritical on May 17, 2006 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions

no

The Mets don't need another bat, even with Floyd struggles, there 4th in the NL in runs scored. Manny would be overkill. Now for Dontrelle, I would might part with Milledge.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on May 18, 2006 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions

milledge

is slumping at Norfolk. I wouldn't do it either, but Omar loves Manny and the team is built to win now. Hopefully, it doesn't come to this

It's only a game

by elifriedman on May 17, 2006 11:37 PM EDT reply actions

Hard luck loss tonight

Loading the bases meant they had to throw strikes, remarkable that DW and CF couldn't get anything into the outfield, but them's the breaks.

Well pitched on both sides; Trax certainly did his job. Delgado struggling against a lefty is something we have to accept, although Floyd is having more problems with them than usual.

Hopefully the bats wake up tamarra.

by peeder on May 18, 2006 2:31 AM EDT reply actions