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Offseason OMGWTFLOL

I have no words adequate to describe this:

There is a term in baseball, grinder, to describe those who bring it every day and treat each at-bat like a mini holy war. The Mets need a whole lot fewer whiners and lawyers who sap the energy/togetherness in their clubhouse, and more grinders, especially because Randolph is so non-confrontational even with his worst offenders. Look, the Diamondbacks are a club that believes in statistical analysis, yet recently gave Eric Byrnes a three-year, $30 million extension in recognition of what his daily zeal does for the group.

So the Mets should look seriously at free agents Aaron Rowand to play center field and David Eckstein to play second base, and/or see if they could pry someone such as the Angels' jack-in-the-box Chone Figgins to be their jack-of-all-trades.

Star-divide

Yes, that's what the Mets need: the ability to make more outs, but make them more passionately.  That grittyhustleness won't come cheap, though.

The bar has been set pretty high for this early in the offseason, but perhaps if we work together we can find something to top this.  Let's use this thread as a roundup for further offseason insanity.

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I hate Aaron Rowand
I admire what he brings to the field, but I hate his demeanor.
When I see and hear him talk, I can't help but think his IQ is near 50.
Oh, and what to do with Carlos Beltran? Yeah. Lets get Rowand to play center when we already have Beltran.

by BlackOps on Oct 7, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Question
Why isn't Luis Castillo scrappy. He does all of the scrappy things no?
Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Oct 7, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Because he's not white.
You ever hear a non-white guy called scrappy?

by Mikeybags84 on Oct 7, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see
Well maybe that's was really the point of Sherman column today. The team has too many non-white guys and the Mets should sign some. Just a thought.
Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Oct 7, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre
Every rule needs one exception.  Juan Pierre is the sole scrappy person of color.

by anonymous on Oct 7, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did mention
Figgins too in fairness. So the black scrappy club is now at too, still no Hispanics though.
Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Oct 8, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was inevitable
That such idiocy would be published about the Mets.  Yeah, what the Mets need is a pair of guys like Rowand and Figgins coming off career years who will never ever come close to another season like this.  Hey, they can even slip them in at CF and 3B, allowing the Mets to dump those losers Beltran and Wright.

And I'm not going to add anything else about Eckstein except that I'd rather have Anderson Hernandez than David Hustle-hoff.

Fire Willie Randolph!

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 7, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Harsh
We all know that Eckstein led the league in Gritting Average. I agree that he's not likely to produce the same Hustle over Replacement next season, but I think he could hit new highs in Clubhouse Leadership Shares.

by DavidNYC on Oct 9, 2007 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well done
Sherman is probably upset that Randolph didn't give the RF job to a scrapper like David Newhan.

by Simons on Oct 10, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

FJM!
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2007/10/paul-lo-duca-loses-grinder-status.html

They finally got around to ripping the article to pieces.

Fire Willie Randolph!

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 10, 2007 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Spare me
I'm sick of terms like "scrappy" and "hard-nosed" and "winning attitude". David Eckstein is a little shit who no one would care about if he wasn't lucky enough to be on successful teams. There are dozens of guys like him who play for the Royals and Nationals and Devil Rays. Quit blabbing about this overrated subculture of players and just focus on a good starter, lots of bullpen help, and someone who can convince Willie and Omar to let our own "grinder" (Endy Chavez) get more playing time.
Together we mourn.

by TheFlushingKings on Oct 15, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

No
Endy Chavez can't be our "Grinder".  He's not white!

by Mikeybags84 on Oct 16, 2007 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also
Endy can't be our grinder because he has actual skills like really great range in the outfield.  Grinders are guys who don't have great skills but still "make the most of what they have" or whatever that means.

by Josh @ Amazin' Avenue on Oct 18, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It means...
They suck and can't play baseball too well but oh look at how he dove that one time.

by vonhayes on Oct 19, 2007 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

stop the presses
Alex Rodriguez's departure from the Yankees is the kind of thing that should put any stupid baseball writer's pen into cliché overdrive.  And the Times's answer to Jeannie Zelasko responds promptly:
Why ruin good karma by hiring A-Rod? He was once privately nicknamed the "cooler" by his teammates in Texas for his habit of turning a hot team tepid. He is known for dividing the Yankees' locker in 2006 with his stats-first attitude.

Right, adding the best hitter in baseball to your team is certainly enough to turn it "tepid" with run-scoring turpitude.  And curse him for that stats-first attitude, which he backs up by being first with the best stats in the game!  How dare he!  The guy would be worth millions more if only he put stats lower on his list of priorities.

I'm expecting more amazing stupidity from this topic in the ensuing days.

by anonymous on Oct 29, 2007 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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