Crazy Absurd Funkdiculous Santana Rumor

by Eric Simon on Dec 5, 2007 4:47 PM EST

Just got an incredible rumor from a trusted New York sportswriter. Stay with me, because this one's crazy. But rest assured that if the source wasn't good, I wouldn't post it.
Minnesota has initiated talks for a three-way blockbuster with the Twins and A's. Here's how it would go down:
Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot to A's
A's send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets
A's send Dan Haren to Twins
Twins send Johan Santana to Mets
Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson
A's get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey
Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot

I'm not even sure where to begin.

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i know where to start

by not effing doing it!

by kendynamo on Dec 5, 2007 5:01 PM EST reply actions

I second this notion

by SQUAD on Dec 5, 2007 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

i'd go as far as to say

it's intriguing on paper and we very much would love to have Santana, then Bedard, then Haren, but NOT if it gives up reyes, wright or beltran. 3 years of reyes is not equal to 1 year of santana.

i bet santana goes no where. an equal trade will be put together by someone, then that team will ahve a couple days to santana to an extension. santana will then have all the leverage in the world and the team will not agree, then santana will pitch one more year and be a fa anyway.

not going to get worked up (anymore than i already am) until i see where this is coming from and where its going.

by kendynamo on Dec 5, 2007 5:10 PM EST up reply actions

Santana? Never liked his music

I suspect the Angels are about to make a major play for Santana, having lost the bidding on Miguel Cabrera and having the prospects to make an attractive deal for him.

This proposal is not a good deal for the Mets as far as I can see. And I don't know what kind of "good" source would make shit like this up, since it looks like one of the more obviously substance-abuse-fueled imaginary deals I've seen in a while.

by anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 7:03 PM EST up reply actions

don't like the Mambo #5 lol

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Dec 5, 2007 7:44 PM EST up reply actions

uh oh

you better change your evil ways baby.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Dec 5, 2007 9:17 PM EST up reply actions

angels already

said they weren't going after him.

by gogomets on Dec 6, 2007 2:08 AM EST up reply actions

Hard to believe

twins would only get Dan haren and Hector pellot for Santana.

No way this happens

by sincethebeginning @ Amazin' Avenue on Dec 5, 2007 5:22 PM EST reply actions

Not really

Pellot is a throw-in. Haren was almost as good as Santana last year, he is younger and is under contract for three more years at very reasonable money. That works out pretty well for the Twins, considering Santana will be a free agent after 2008 and figures to make much more money after that.

by Eric Simon on Dec 5, 2007 5:29 PM EST up reply actions

Twins don't need that

They have a load of good pitchers coming up soon-ish. They need a shortstop or centerfielder... of which they're getting none.

We could send Reyes to the A's and Beltran to the Twins and end up with both!

.318/.379/.591
.299/.362/.543
.304/.396/.474
.317/.363/.517
.289/.375/.478
.288/.387/.474
.305/.385/.479
.278/.339/.399
Pick your poison

by BlackOps on Dec 5, 2007 5:31 PM EST up reply actions

Soon-ish?

It seemed clear to me from the trade packages being bandied about by the Red Sox and Yankee camps that the Twins want a big league-ready pitcher. They have already dealt away Matt Garza and lost Carlos Silva to free agency. If they trade away Santana to boot they are going to need pitching.

by Eric Simon on Dec 5, 2007 5:41 PM EST up reply actions

I probably wouldn't make this trade

but why is Jose Reyes untouchable. Is he the kind of guy you build a team around. I will discount his miserable last 3rd of a season even though he fell apart at crunch time, but who elected him into HOF already. If you're talking about attitude his was worse than Milledge's ever was for parts of last year.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Dec 5, 2007 5:44 PM EST reply actions

he still a stellar defensive SS

a year removed from a 115 OPS+ season, along with all his basestealing ability. He's also still only 24. He's still untouchable IMO, even Santana

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Dec 5, 2007 7:43 PM EST up reply actions

I agree with Eli

Reyes is a fine player, but we're talking about the best pitcher in baseball. Assuming the Mets can sign Santana to an extension, you make any deal in which Reyes is the centerpiece.

Wright is, IMHO, the only Mets untouchable (Beltran is a moot point because of his salary). I honestly would not trade Wright straight-up for any player in the game.

Let's Go Meters in New York!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Dec 6, 2007 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

the best pitcher

who will be over 30 very soon and with those mechanics there's no way he holds up when he's older. great position player > great pitcher.

by gogomets on Dec 6, 2007 9:56 PM EST up reply actions

age

In an age when pitchers with the desire to pitch well into their 40s can because of medicine and technology? I can't imagine how long they'll be able to pitch in 10 years. And it's not like Santana relies on his velocity...

.318/.379/.591
.299/.362/.543
.304/.396/.474
.317/.363/.517
.289/.375/.478
.288/.387/.474
.305/.385/.479
.278/.339/.399
Pick your poison

by BlackOps on Dec 7, 2007 9:43 AM EST up reply actions

Take a look at

crosby. Hes the definition of failure. Sorry but this guy sucks. But who needs a shortstop anyway.

by sincethebeginning @ Amazin' Avenue on Dec 5, 2007 5:47 PM EST reply actions

toljaso

NY Post Online: 3-Way Deal a Total Fabrication

Omar Minaya reiterated that Reyes is not being traded, which instantly doomed the idea. So did the fact that Minaya and Oakland GM Billy Beane have exchanged phone messages and e-mails, but have not talked at these meetings as of early tonight.
But for the final word, we offer this gem from Beane: "I rarely comment on trades publicly, but let me comment on this one: It is an absolute, total fabrication."

by anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 8:19 PM EST reply actions