Open Thread - Game 56: Mets vs. Phillies (06/05/2007) on SNY

by Alex Nelson on Jun 5, 2007 5:00 PM EDT

No Eric today, so we'll have to make do with my makeshift copycat gamethread. I'm heading to the game tonight, so the Mets better win.

Tale of the tape:

          Glavine    Moyer
          -------    -----
ERA    :    3.44      4.23
FIP    :    4.89      4.90
K/9    :    4.54      5.10
BB/9   :    2.95      2.61
K/BB   :    1.54      1.95
HR/9   :    1.10      1.24
WHIP   :    1.30      1.22
GB/FB  :    1.29      0.84
BABIP  :    .285      .259
eBABIP :    .304      .295

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Go Tommy, Go Mets!

I'm watching all the games available to me and with you guys in spirit -- just not able to post much.

Strong is the Max mojo. Let's sweep these Phils!

by Max in NJ on Jun 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply actions

me too

Right now I have neither a computer nor cable at home, so I spend most nights in the company of Howie Rose and Tom McCarthy. It's like the stone ages, I know. What would I do without a radio?

I miss the in-game chatter here, but I hope to be back soon.

I'm leaving work now. Let's go Mets!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jun 5, 2007 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I say

We need to ram these guys into something hard... Go mets!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Dub!

Go David!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

Haha!

2 zip!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:33 PM EDT reply actions

It's hard for me to root against Jamie Moyer

But so it goes.

Also, way to go DDub!

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

Holy Helicoptering D-Dub!

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

Ben Johnson

can crap up any rally. Bleargh. The guy is not a good 5th outfielder; maybe a 6th.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

it's been a few ab's

give him some time

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I know.

But I can't help complaining a little from time to time. Old reflexes from the 90s-2000s teams.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Quite the crappy AB by BJ

failing to get Paulie to 3rd with 1 out.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions

Gomez's fly might have scored Lo Duca from third, and Glavine's single (obviously) removes all doubt. Not to whinge too much, but Endy or even Easley (+ Gotay at 2B) is a better choice to start games while Alou and Green are still out.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I think that Wright and Ruiz

inadvertantently created a new sex position.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:37 PM EDT reply actions

LOL

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Ruiz is tryin' to hurt someone.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

I don't agree with

Sandy Alomar holding Lo Duca at third. There are two outs; just go for it. Your pitcher just got a 2-out hit with a RISP; take advantage of it! Sure, the throw would have beaten Duke to the plate, but he could try to plow Ruiz over.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

I think you're right

But maybe Alomar's thinking, Glavine just got a hit, the hard part's over.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

He would have been out by a mile though.

One of these days, Jose will rediscover his RBI stroke.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I know

I just hate seeing the runner at second being held on a 2-out hit. The chance holding him, and then picking up the RBI hit in the next AB, are slim to none.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeesh, bad grammar

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't agree with that at all.

Sorry, dude. Reyes has shown a great propensity over his career to knock runners in, just not in the last couple of weeks. His chances are far from "slim to none". He also could walk, and let Easley get a shot, or induce a wild pitch, or an error on a fielder to score a run. There are 3 outs to an inning, not 2. Discretion is the better part of valor if the 3B coach thinks the runner will be thrown out at home.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

What chafed there was Johnson's inability to even get the runner over, not Sandy holding him after Glavine's single. You send the guy with 2 outs IF a weak hitter is due up. Reyes is not a weak hitter.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions

dammit

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions

Ugh

Now the game is timed

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions

Tied&

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow, that sucks

A little infield bleeder with 2 outs that Rollins just barely beat out, and now we're tied. It seems like that's been happening a lot lately.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

Hit # 4

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

Wow. Nice strike out!

Flying bat!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions

That's scary

I can't even imagine a two-pound, 2 1/2-foot wooden stick flying right at me. A ball is bad enough.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmmm

Dude in the stands: "We're gonna need a bigger glove."

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions

Haha

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is it so freakin' difficult for Delgado

to hit it the left side with 2 strikes? I

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions

Tom Glavine, hitting machine

He's a better pinch-hitter than Julio Franco or Ben Johnson at this point.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

Reyes bunt

I hope that was for a hit, if not it was horrible play.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions

definitely

At the very least, not a pure sacrifice. I think he was bunting for a hit all the way.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Ick..

C'mon CB...

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

to be expected that beltrans timing would be a

off a little.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I can

Understand that mostly, yes.

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Anyone who

would see us get a guy on 1st and 2nd, 1 out, and have 3rd and 4th spots up, would love it... so when it turns up sucking, it hurts more.

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions

That made little to no sense whatsoever.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions

We've gotta find a way

to get those runs in. And Delgado, I don't know what it is that you're going through, but it's getting pretty frickin' old.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I think I get what he's saying

perhaps.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

What Flushing Said. What it was, well, was: We get guys on 1st and 2nd, and have the 3rd and fourth spots coming up with one out, its annoying not to have anything happen. If that makes anymore sense.

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions

Wow!

Thats a break!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions

crazy play.

Utley and Burrell playing musical chairs there. Pretty funny stuff, and fielded well by Lo Duca and Reyes.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions

i had visions of

Kent and JD Drew.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Pat the Bat

Pat Burrell has the no baseball instincts whatsoever. Also Gomez reputation precedes him.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:41 PM EDT reply actions

Comedy gold!

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions

that's a ball that should be caught

so I guess we got back Wright hit

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

Hold crap - how did Burrell not catch that?

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

he's a horrible defender

that's how. He needs to play 1B or better yet be a DH.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Per Rick Peterson on the FAN

the Show has a foot problem that is affecting his velocity. Why is he not being DL'd then?

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions

Beats me

Seems like the perfect excuse to put him on the shelf.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions

And

I hear hes in the bullpen now..?

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Or shot into space...

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Tommy G.

Canny.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions

"Scott Schoenweis is up..."

Nah nah nah, I can't hear you.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 9:01 PM EDT reply actions

NiceHitting

by Reyes

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions

Just another great ab for Reyes

its becoming routine

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions

and another steal

Most exciting player in baseball? More like just another day at the office. The guy is automatic.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Too bad

It wasnt :(

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions

it was

He just had to steal it twice. Not a big deal.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Demon Damion

Easley just got caught trying to cheat. That should be catchers interference.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions

There we go!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions

CRAP

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

Damn Reyes

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

Oh g_d

Damnit... this blows

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions

fuck.

Two outs' worth of bad luck.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions

And there goes another shot at #296

for Tommy...what luck he's having. Who knows if he'll reach 300 this season, at this point.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah

It's sad to see that. There are people with almost double his ERA and have alot more to show for it.

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions

Here

Comes the Show!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions

We put up a fight

We'll get 'em tomorrow.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Well he does his job this time

but I got this move. Willie must think that get might need to get through Utley/Howard again to win this game and wants save Pedro2 for that and hoping the Show can give him something now.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Good point

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Very Nice

DP!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions

Ugh

That curveball... I held my breath!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions

Aaargh

Digital cable crapping it up.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions

wow.

The Phillies need some basic skills sessions. Poor communication on the bases gave the Mets an out, now they're giving the Mets a runner because they can't call for a ball.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions

U-T-L-E-Y

You ain't got no alibi!

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

Phillies are a bad defensive ball club

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

Corner OF

Green is being missed a lot right now, and LMillz too.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions

No kidding

Bring back the old guys!

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, Damion

You were having such a good night.

"The carousel continues here at Shea Park...it's like a park."

by TheFlushingKings on Jun 5, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions

hehe

"Motarin'..."

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 5, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions

I wanna

See a Carlos hit a walk off here!

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions

this is a must steal situtation

2 out. PLD doesn't hit for power.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions

He did.

And he didn't.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yay

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions

gah.

Well, a few of the Phillies can mash, and the Mets have had their chances in this game. Maybe Pedrito can recover quickly and the Mets can score in the bottom of the inning, but if not, it's a fair-square loss.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions

Well Pedro2 was due for a bad one

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions

FOOK

Some shit was bound to happen.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Damn

Howard hit that ball HARD

by NewMet5 on Jun 5, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Meltdown inning.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

nice DP, though.

If the Mets can get out of this mess with an outside chance to re-tie the game, I'll be very pleased.

by anonymous on Jun 5, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

once you get past PLD

it's over with this lineup. bad when only get 2 runs against Moyers. Also, a pattern developing of not getting big hit. Well, these things are bound to happen in a long season.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jun 5, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions

yeah

That's why Green, Valentin, and Alou need to get back soon.

Driving the Oliver Perez bandwagon!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 5, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

plus

Endy Chavez is the best 4th OF in the game, but really shouldn't play every day.

Driving the Oliver Perez bandwagon!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 5, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

both corner OF out

Gomez is overmatched right now. We'll survive this stretch and get the infirmed back.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

also looking forward to Pedro throwing in mid 90s.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jun 5, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I would love to see that

but I'm skeptical. All he needs to do is throw 88 to be dominant anyway.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

ok Jose

gee only 2 homers this year. Where has all the power goen

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jun 5, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions

he'll hit some as the weather warms

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Gramps showing off that famous hustle

that makes him so indispensible to our bench.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions

he can't get thrown out at second their.

it really didn't matter if he was at 1-2 there anyway. They would have given him 2nd on defensive indifference had Reyes ab gone on any longer.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jun 5, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions

If he had been running he wouldn't have been.

He's clearly not sCrappy enough. With Reyes' speed, I'd imagine they might actually prefer to have a possible force on Grumps.

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by Mr. Met on Jun 5, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Mets are about even

since the injuries hit and that's real good considering the inconsistency of the rest of the line-up. The pitching has really picked up the offense this year. I know that the Mets have good team offensive stats, but they still don't seem to be clicking.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jun 5, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions