Open Thread - Game 140: Mets vs. Astros (09/07/2007) on SNY

by Eric Simon on Sep 7, 2007 6:09 PM EDT in Game Chatters Comment 67 comments

Tale of the tape:

	Pelfrey	Rodriguez
ERA	5.43	4.49
FIP	4.77	3.95
K/9	5.60	7.91
BB/9	4.45	2.92
K/BB	1.26	2.71
HR/9	0.66	1.01
WHIP	1.55	1.30
GB/FB	1.76	1.05
BABIP	.310	.309
eBABIP	.353	.302

Que se dillio:

So huge apologies for being MIA this week. I was up until 3am most days with crazy deadlines that wound up not mattering anyway. Such is the daily grind here at Tamaribuchi Heavy Manufacturing Concern. I promise to make up for it.

Tonight we've got the new (and improved?) Mike Pelfrey taking on Magic Wandy Rodriguez.

Check out the preview of tonight's game at Baseball-Reference.com.

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Pelfrey

OK, hopefully last weekend was the start of something big for Mikey. Let's go Mets!

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I think his biggest hurdle was just getting that first win out of the way.

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great start from Pelf

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So much for the start

And Damn Beltran that was soooo close!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

That sucks.

Whatever, it's Lance Berkman. He does that. Pelfrey looked very sharp against Pence, Biggio, and Lee (and yes, Craig, you went around).

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I definitely jinxed it

Wow, that was close.

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

You definately did >.>

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ugh

So much for the sharp version of Pelfrey.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OH MY GOD

What a play!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That was incredible

So lucky. That could have been a nightmarish inning.

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs and Brewers losing

Resistance is futile. Prepare for another October of Eckstein-fellatio, courtesy of another 83-79 playoff appearance.

barf

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sigh

I am not happy with the throw... and Im not happy we've yet to have a hit.

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good lord

Reyes' OBP is down to .364? Man oh man, take a walk here, Jose!

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he looks lost

Man oh man, I hope this slump is over by October.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rather get it done now

With a playoff spot in good chances than it happen in the NLDS or NLCS or better yet World Series!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woo!

David Wright! MVP!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MVP! MVP!

You know, either Miguel Cabrera or Hanley Ramirez deserves the award, but David will be the one to win it.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I stand corrected

The Marlins pair must have been slumping a bit of late, because Wright actually leads both in WARP and EqA. He might actually be the legitimate MVP.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, him or Pujols

He's also been slumping though. David could end up with a 12.0 WARP3, which I just did not see coming this year. Beltran's actually creeping up into the top 5 again this year. What a bounceback he's had after that rough stretch.

Jose was way up there with Pujols all summer, in the 11.0-11.5 range, but he's been backsliding tremendously. As long as his woes at the plate don't affect his defense, I can live with it.

by vonhayes on Sep 7, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of Beltran

He just bombed one.

Offense and defense combined, you could legitimately say the Mets have 3 of the top 7 or 8 players in the NL.

Couldn't you?

by vonhayes on Sep 7, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Atta boys!

And the momentum has shifted! this pitcher is being shown for the luky SOB he is!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where is Kansis City?

Would that be in the state of Kansis?

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Sep 7, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I misquoted there

Hehe woops... im fixing it now!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansis City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotcha.

Well-played.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Sep 7, 2007 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

I warned you that you should correct my typo.

Still, I continue to find it awesome that I'm being quoted in a signature.

by jalsonmi on Sep 7, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wandy's aura is gone

Yeah, they're starting to make good contact against this chump.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately

we're having the same problem we've had all year: getting the frickin' runners home.

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

new twist

Beltran hits only a solo shot thanks to that stumbling catch by Pence. Damn, Wright should have had extra bases.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh well

Hopefully we can get more this inning. Rodriguez is running on empty.

"I'm Tim Teufel, let me begin by saying I was once a Twin/I made the move and it feels just right/I've been Metsmerized and I see the light."

by TheFlushingKings on Sep 7, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's why...

RBI's are a silly stat.

They tell a small fraction of the story.

Yet, all you hear when someone comes up to the plate is "He's at .282 with 4 homers and 22 RBI." Good god, that tells me NOTHING! What is he slugging??

by vonhayes on Sep 7, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

spoken like a true Sabremetrian

It seems like people are coming around. OBP is becoming part of the picture.

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup

Are you a Phillies fan (your user name suggests it)? Will you tell your brethren down at Citizens Bank Park that shitting all over Burrell is dumb because Burrell is an offensive machine, and not just against the Mets?

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah...

Mets fan since '85. But I remember Von fondly (2 HR in 1st inning June 11, 1985).

I like Burrell a lot. He's not worth 12 million or whatever, but I always tell my fickle Phillies fan friends we'll take him!

My username comes from my band! Von Hayes!

by vonhayes on Sep 7, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Conine the Barbarian!

Er - I didn't say that.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Sep 7, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pelfrey needs to field his position better

a guy who breaks bats and gets ground balls like he does has to be able to catch the ball

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MILLLZ!

I love you over Shawn Green!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Millz!

Hell of a play!

by Mikeybags84 on Sep 7, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OH Da Baby!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Whoa

Heck of a catch by Knowyourplacerook!

by Josh on Sep 7, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jorge!

Striking out Berkman was big too. Hopefully, we'll get some clutch bullpen action from here on out.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jose!

OK, that's more like the Reyes we all love, and not the hacker without a clue where the strikezone is.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

opposite field too

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JOSE!

You can see how bad he wanted to bust that one out. He's about to break out, I guarantee it!

by Mikeybags84 on Sep 7, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now is da time!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So do

You guys think ALou should be back next year? Or would y'all rather have Gomez and Milledge to start. God forbid green comes back anything less then a bench bat/platoon player? Also, whats the contract on Endy? Doesn't it expire this year?

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bring back Mo

IMO Gomez is not ready to hold be an everyday major league OF as a hitter. Milledge is as that missile into the left field pen just showed. Plus I doubt the Mets would turn both corner OF spots to kids. Alou is nice stop gap and the Mets have an option on him anyway.

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd bring him back

with the kind of incentive-laden deal Valentin got. The guy can obviously still rake, but he's an injury waiting to happen, and one of these years, he won't recover from an injury.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

L Millz!

I luv ya!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

w00t

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 7, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

Wasn't it just the top of this inning that the Astros were threatening to get right back in the game? It seems like so long ago.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Smoltz

Not that the Braves worry me anymore, but Smoltz has a no-hitter through 7 innings.

DID YOU HEAR THAT, BASEBALL GODS??? I SAID SMOLTZ HAS A NO-HITTER!!!!!

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No longer

And now he's no longer in the game.

What a game for him, though: 7 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 10 K. That's a good day at the office.

by jalsonmi on Sep 7, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love this game

Everybody gets to hit. And, playing for two straight games for the first time since who knows when, what a great game from Milledge--a 2 hits, a homer AND a walk. The kid really should just be stuck in right and let to play and play and play.

And really, it wasn't even that bad a game for Pelfrey. A hell of a lot of hits, to be sure, but so many were singles, and ground ball singles at that. Ground ball pitchers will have nights like that. His GB-FB was 9-4. More nights like that and he'll be just fine.

by jalsonmi on Sep 7, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I need an alka-seltzer

I know Gary and Keith need to be diplomatic, but how about crediting the craptastic play of Milwaukee and Chicago instead of Tony LaRussa for the fact that the Cards could go into 1st place tonight? Once again, just like last year, the only reason St. Louis isn't buried is that they play in the most goddamn awful division in baseball.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Point Taken

But I agree there has been plenty of crap for them to go through this year.

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

Drunk Driving manager, injuries, drunk driving players, the Natural going to the Unnatural.

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah there is no good teams in the central

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK.....

The graphic SNY put up spelled his name "Collazo", while his uniform says "Colazzo". Which is it?

I'm guessing that since his name is Spanish and not Italian, the uniform manager messed up.

Every time Mota pitches, a kitten dies. Please think of the kittens!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 7, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BR has Collazo

I'm thinking that's it.

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Sep 7, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yar

In the books shall we be putting it.

by jalsonmi on Sep 7, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And the lead

She be growing!

"As for 1966--oy. Chilcott was a catcher who never reached the majors. The number two pick was held by the Kansas City A's. They picked Reggie Jackson"

by NewMet5 on Sep 7, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs