Friday Applesauce
by Eric Simon on Oct 10, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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PrintI can't help but agree with Mark Healey of Gotham Baseball, who says that Aaron Heilman should be cut a little slack. I count myself among a shrinking list of Heilman supporters, and would be disappointed if the Mets sold extremely low by shipping him out of town this offseason. Healey sums up Heilman's lost season in 2008:
The fact of the matter is, Aaron Heilman deserves the benefit of the doubt from the Mets, the fans and the media. He pitched through an injury this year that didn't only curtail his ability to stay on his regular workout regimen, but also likely altered his mechanics and effectiveness of his slider and change, the latter being his best pitch.
I'm not going to make excuses for Heilman: He stunk up the joint something fierce in 2008. Maybe he was hurt (I think we tend to underestimate the impact that injuries, even small ones, can have on a player's performance), but he was clearly dreadful. I take solace in the fact that his strikeout rate and fastball velocity were both very impressive, and I like to think that the 1.10 WHIP or so that he averaged from 2005-2007 is more indicative of his established level of performance than his putrid 2008. I'll grant that we should weight 2008 more heavily than those other seasons, but right now this past season seems like the outlier in an otherwise impressive career as a reliever.
There's a Carlos Beltran-to-the-Yankees rumor out there that I won't even link to for fear that its utter prepoculosity might engulf us all.
Arizona Fall League
Peoria Saguaros 9, Mesa Solar Sox 2
- Daniel Murphy played second base for Peoria and went 0-for-4 with a walk and a run scored.
- Non-prospect Shawn Bowman had a huge game, going 2-for-3 with a two-run homer, a walk and four RBI.
- Eddie Kunz pitched a scoreless ninth, striking out two.
Hawaiian Winter Baseball
Honolulu Sharks 4, Waikiki BeachBoys, 0
- Second baseman Greg Veloz went 0-for-2 for Honolulu with a walk.
- Shortstop Ruben Tejada went 1-for-1 with two walks and a run scored. Tejada was awful at St. Lucie this year, but at 19 years old he was a solid four years younger than the average hitter in the Florida State League.
- Roy Merritt struck out two and picked up a hold in a scoreless eighth inning.
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Wha?!?
Voltron to the Skanks? Man, and I think alot of Mets fans give him too hard of a time . . .
As far as Heils goes, I would rather see him back in camp and healthy instead of just tossing him away for a C-level middle reliever. No denying his craptacularity this season but I agree that we shouldn’t sell low on someone who has been lights out at times in the past and may well have been pitching on one bad knee this year. It will be easy enough to move him for nothing if he is still terrible in the early part of next year.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 10, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
Geez, the more I think about this
What in the hell do we want from the Skanks that merits giving up one of the best and most valuable players in baseball? Are we getting Joba and Rivera in that trade to shore up the bullpen? Bernie Williams circa the late 1990s? What in the . . . it’s almost too stupid for me to comprehend. I can’t fathom that Omar would put Voltron on the table. Just. Fucking. Moronic (if true).
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 10, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Rumor is (sorry Eric)
Beltran for Cano, Ian Kennedy, and a “top prospect”.
No Way, Cano is way overrated, Kennedy has a high ceiling, but looked brutal last year, and then you need a new CF.
Heilman is the type of guy that the Mets toss away, and Dave Duncan and the Cards pick up and turn into a 20 game winner.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Don't the Yankees have enough outfielders?
I’ll assume they let Abreu walk and that they will get Manny. They would then have: Manny, Matsui, Damon, Nady, and Beltran, plus Cabrera.
I can’t see this happening.
ew ew ew
Cano is so shitty. I’m not that familiar with the Yankees’ farm system, but looking at the list of guys who played for the big club on B-R.com, I can’t come up with any package of players they could offer that would persuade me to part with Voltron. Rivera had yet another fantabulous year but he’s 38. Sure, if crazy Hankenstein calls up and offers A-Rod and Wang and Joba, I owe it to the team to think about it, but realistically? No fucking way. Beltran was quietly once again one of the ten best players in the NL and I see no reason to deal him.
Got mine yesterday!
It had that new shirt smell so its in the wash but, still . . . Voltron!
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 10, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i have to part ways with ya on Heilman
he needs a change of scenery. I need a change of scenery. I know that like I know my own name.
This Beltran rumor has exploded my head. This stupid rumor has crawled in my head and is ruining my day. Imagine the sound of every expletive being screamed at once and that is what i am feeling.
Never mind the trading partner and the substandard haul that is being thrown around, this trade would possibly be worse than K*zmir and Milledge combined for sheer stupidity.
I would seriously consider a boycott.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
if they did this
i’d fly to new york, go to $iti field, pull up my fan brick with a pick ax, and throw it through Jeffy’s front windshield.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Oct 10, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
I was going to assassinate Omar but this sounds more feasible and would result in less jail time.
by DannyMetsGeek on Oct 10, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Heilman
I’m on board for Heilman to come back. I just get thrown off the path of righteousness when people still want to start him.
The Beltran trade rumor was pure insanity. A funny joke by a Yankee shill, surely.
Heilman should be back
He just has to pitch better in ‘09. My gosh he was bad this year. I too hope the Mets don’t just throw him away. No way he’s really this bad.
I’m just curious about the nature of his injury. Does anyone know what his deal was this year?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
prepoculosity
I assume that this is one of those mashup words that all you cool kids use nowadays, but what is it a mashup of? Because I like the sound of it.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
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