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Mets Arbitration Decisions

Midnight tonight is the deadline for teams to offer salary arbitration to their own free agents, of which the Mets have eleven:

  • Oliver Perez
  • Luis Ayala
  • Pedro Martinez
  • Moises Alou
  • Damion Easley
  • Tony Armas
  • Orlando Hernandez
  • Ricardo Rincon
  • Ramon Martinez
  • Matt Wise
  • Trot Nixon

Only three of these guys have been ranked by Elias: Oliver Perez is a Type A free agent; Luis Ayala and Moises Alou are both Type Bs. A quick free agent compensation primer: The upside to offering arbitration to a ranked player is clear: Should he sign elsewhere, the former team -- in this case, the Mets -- would receive either a first round pick AND a sandwich pick between the first and second rounds (Type A) or just the sandwich pick (Type B). There are circumstantial exceptions to the compensation for Type A players, because a team could conceivably sign more than one such player but, obviously, only has one first round draft pick to offer back to the player's original team. In such cases, the highest ranked Type A player signed is compensated for by the signing team's first round pick; the second highest ranked Type A the second round pick, etc. Of course, any team picking in the top half of the first round has their first round pick protected, so the musical draft picks begin with the signing team's second rounder instead.

The Mets will almost certainly offer arbitration to Perez, because there is no disincentive to do otherwise. Typically, the worst case scenario for offering a player arbitration is that he accepts and you didn't want him to. That is, you wanted him to sign elsewhere so you could collect the draft pick(s), and his accepting of arbitration would have negative implications on your team's plan for the subsequent year, either financially, roster-wise, or something else entirely. This actually happened in the winter following the 2002 season, when the Braves offered arbitration to both Greg Maddux and Kevin Millwood, expecting at least one of them to decline in favor of a multi-year deal elsewhere. Both players accepted their arbitration offers, and the Braves were forced to trade Millwood to the Phillies (for Johnny Estrada) to ease the burden on their 2003 payroll. The Mets have no such concerns about Perez, because they could afford any one-year arbitration award should he fail to find a deal to his liking on the open market.

I think the Mets should probably offer arbitration to Ayala, too. If he doesn't sign with someone else, the Mets will be on the hook for something like $2 million (just a guess) for next year. Ayala was pretty terrible last year, but the Mets flushed $1 million down the toilet on Matt Wise, so even the worst case for Ayala next year would hardly cripple the Mets financially. Moises Alou is sort of interesting, but the Mets won't offer him arbitration. It's not clear what Alou could be awarded in arbitration, considering he missed almost all of 2008. The collective bargaining agreement stipulates that arbitration-eligible players who are not yet eligible for free agency can be awarded no less than 20% below what they made in the previous season (certain exceptions notwithstanding), but that rule doesn't apply to players, like Alou, who aren't covered under the reserve system [Article XX(A) of the CBA]. Would it be worth extending an arbitration offer to Alou if he'd expect, say, a $3 million arbitration reward? Who knows.

Nobody else on the above list is going to get an offer from the Mets. Prior to 2007, that passivity would have precluded the player from resigning with his former team. That's no longer the case, so the Mets could still negotiate with Pedro Martinez et al without having to guarantee any of them the right to arbitration.

Of course, 29 other teams also have to make arbitration decisions on their own free agents, which is where things will really start to get interesting. There has been very little player movement this offseason, but once the compensation-related incentives/disincentives become known we should see things open up a bit. Will signing Adam Dunn or Ben Sheets make more sense if they won't cost any draft picks than, say, Manny Ramirez or Derek Lowe plus draft picks to boot? By Tuesday morning, the risks of signing another team's players will be much clearer.

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in regards to Alou’s situation. I can’t wait for this deadline to pass, this is probably the most interesting arbirtration deadline I’ve seen. I can’t believe some of the names that won’t (justiflbly so) be offered arbitration, Burrell, Woods (perhaps), Howry, Pettitte; these are offseason changing decisions.

-The Phillies are going to lose their LF with a big bat (bad D) and get nothing in return, awesome.
-Woods might not cost a first round draft pick…does Woods+First Rounder > K-Rod or Fuentes?

by Sokojoe on Dec 1, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Kerry Wood

I guess I must’ve overlooked the fact that the Cubs wouldn’t even offer arbitration but, hey, seems like that might work out okay for some team (cough Mets hack cough) looking for a short-term closer on the (relatively) cheap without sacrificing draft picks. I must say that I am enjoying this knee-deep closer market right now, even though nothing has happened yet.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 1, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Wood

I’d have no problem with him whatever. I think that Wood+1st round pick > Francisco Rodriguez, though I guess we’ll see if the Mets agree.

by Eric Simon on Dec 1, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

For the price, it probably is.

"When the little children start to speak they once said 'Mama' and 'Papa', but with the fans we got they say the first thing, 'Metsie, Metsie, Metsie'." - Casey Stengel

by Prince on Dec 1, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The only reason I could see the Mets turn away

from Wood wood (Thank you, I’ll be here all night) be his injury history. Might be tough to swallow replacing an injured closer for a closer with a long history of injury.

-However, to counter my own point, the latter didn’t seem to bother the Mets when replacing their oft-injured LF after the 2006 season.

-To counter that point, how did Alou work out for the Mets?

-When healthy awesome, but I think Kerry Wood is a bit different situation than Alou, Wood had been a starter with Dusty Baker as he manager, which basically guarentees injury. I could see him make like Smoltz and stay healthy as a RP, plus as an added bonus, maybe a second career as a starter several years from now.

-But the latter is based on one healthy season and one future hall-of-famer, I’d want to see way more.

-Not only a healthy season but a super-effective one, as well as averaging a shade over 96, meaning his didn’t just healthy but was back to form. In addition, as a RP, Wood got to throw his FB nearly 70% of the time, which might be why he stayed healthy.

-70% isn’t too off from 2007 though, it’s only like 3% off or roughly 18 additional FB.

-True, but he only threw one type of breaking pitch, which has to be good for health, and, again, much less stress as a relief pitcher.

by Sokojoe on Dec 1, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And I thought the fine print on my Direct TV subscription was difficult.

Thanks for providing all of that info. Either I was too lazy to get past paragraph one or the font on my computer is too small. Oh, I know…Both. Instead of opining on what may be, I’ll wait to see “what is”. Then I’ll either begin cheering for joy or screaming bloody murder.

Standing by…

" Whatcha got ain't nothin new. This country's hard on people, you can't stop what's coming, it ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 1, 2008 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Howry

If Howry doesn’t cost any picks, I really want the Mets to give him a shot. It’ll probably take 2 million or less since he had an ERA of 5.35 last season and lost 2 MPH off his FB. But I’ve always been a huge fan of his, mostly because he’s a modern day version of my favorite non-met pitcher The Big Train. 89% of his pitches in 2007 were FB, batters knew what was coming but he was still effective due to awesome control and bouncing around the strikezone. I look for either a bounceback or he’s cut by May, low-risk, big reward, like how bullpens should be made. Plus, I’ll get to root for one of my favorite players.

by Sokojoe on Dec 1, 2008 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Bobby Howry is a modern-day version of Walter Johnson?

What is he, the dead broke, lost-everything-in-the-market Big Train? True, he’s not bad (sometimes pretty good), but I really do wonder how he brings to mind Walter Johnson.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 1, 2008 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Oversight on my part

I assumed people would know what I meant. Walter Johnson relied exclusivly on his fastball for most of his career. Not only that, but he mainly threw it down and away. It always amazed me that hitters knew what was coming but still couldn’t hit him. Now-a-days, it’s very rare for a pitcher to rely on a single pitch, two that come to mind are Rivera and Howry. The difference between the two, obviously, is that Mo throws a sick cutter while Howry, just like Johnson, mainly throws fastball after fastball. My comparison did not mean to diminish how good Johnson is, just style of pitching, kind of like comparing Neise to Zito.

by Sokojoe on Dec 1, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing could diminish how great Johnson was

Not unless he was using steroids derived from the blood of puppies and orphans. Did not realize that Howry is basically a one-pitch guy.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 1, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Ibanez

He’s especially not worth it now that it’s going to cost us draft picks.

by JoshNY on Dec 1, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

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