Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Randy Moss A Raven?

Q&A: John Sickels On 2009 Mets prospects

Fresh on the heels of his Mets Top 20 Prospect list, minor league guru and fellow-SBN-er John Sickels took a few minutes away from his hectic schedule finalizing his 2009 Baseball Prospect Book to answer some questions about the Mets' farm system.

Eric Simon: Neither Nick Evans nor Daniel Murphy is eligible for the ROY next year (Evans for active roster days, Murphy for at-bats), but Evans made your list while Murphy did not. Is there a strict eligibility cutoff for your list? Where would Murphy fall if he were still eligible?

John Sickels: I use 130 at-bats for players. I don't care about service time. I like Murphy and I think he's a very solid role player type, not a star but a guy who will have a long career. I'd put him between Havens and Marte; obviously Marte has a higher ceiling, but also much higher risk of failure, since Murphy has already shown something in the majors.

ES: How bad would the Mets' system be without their international free agent signings? How does their recent record with IFA signings compare with other teams?

JS: Well they've been very aggressive obviously. They haven't done as well with their draft picks, and it seems to me like they are missing an opportunity there; they certainly have the financial resources to act like the Red Sox and go over slot on certain picks, pick up guys like Lars Anderson who slide because of signability. If the Mets did that sort of thing more often the system would be much deeper. Also they tend to rush their Latin American signees very fast. I'm not sure that's the right strategy with every player. I talk more about this in my book.

ES: What are your thoughts on Josh Thole? Francisco Pena?

Pena is a guy who has been hurt by being pushed so fast. He still has time to build a career, but at this point I don't see him as a premium prospect, there are just too many questions about his bat. Thole has good plate discipline and showed more pop this year, but I don't see him as a premium prospect either. If he repeats what he did at St. Lucie in Double-A, then I could see him as a possible regular. But I want to see more.

ES: Ike Davis's total lack of power was startling. Any idea what the problem was? Do you think he can turn things around?

JS: Well I don't want to overreact to what a guy does in his first half-season. But what concerns me about Davis is that he has had problems in the Cape Cod League hitting for wood, and before his college season the knock on him was that he didn't have enough power. He changed minds with his 2008 performance for Arizona State, and personally I thought he had turned the corner, but then he goes to the NY-P and the power vanishes again. My best advice at this point is wait-and-see. There were rumors that he was pressing and had lost some confidence, and if true a fresh start in '09 could get him back on track. If worse comes to worst and he simply doesn't hit enough, he has a good enough arm that he could be useful as a reliever I suppose.

ES: The Mets have had quite a bit of success finding pitchers in the later rounds of the draft recently. Of the later round picks last year, who looks the most intriguing?

JS: I like Kyle Allen, Florida high school RHP drafted in the 24th round. He looks very interesting so far and has a high ceiling. Scott Shaw out of Illinois in the 13th round had a horrible college season, but was much more effective in the pros. Erik Turgeon (25th round) and Jimmy Johnson (28th round) also have some potential.

Thanks again to John for shedding some more light on the Mets' system. Be sure to check out his writing every day at Minor League Ball, and order his baseball prospect book from his website.

Comment 3 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Pena hasn't shown a lot of promise with the bat

None, actually. But he just turned 19; give him a chance.

"When the little children start to speak they once said 'Mama' and 'Papa', but with the fans we got they say the first thing, 'Metsie, Metsie, Metsie'." - Casey Stengel

by Prince on Dec 23, 2008 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the interview Eric

I was hoping you would pull some strings and get some more info from Sickels.

by Sokojoe on Dec 23, 2008 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Pena

He’s playing at the lowest full season level. I don’t see how a guy is helped by not playing regularly. I’m all for pushing good prospects up to Savannah, and letting them struggle a bit. You really want to give that time to organizational guys instead?

Pena hit .264 last year with 31 xbh in 426 PA. Those numbers are fine for an 18 year old. And clearly an improvement over 2007, so I don’t see how anyone can say he isn’t learning.

If you want to keep all of these guys at lower levels, keep them all at short season ball, all that means is that you can’t sign other potential high ceiling prospects to fill those roster spots. If the Mets had left Ruben Tejada and Juan Lagares at lower levels, they wouldn’t have had room for Wilmer Flores to play SS in Kingsport. They could have left Stefan Welch and Nick Giarraputo in Kingsport, and Richard Pena in the GCL, and not had a spot for Jeffry Marte.

I’ve yet to see an example of a guy that was actually hurt by being rushed. It seems to me the Mets have been doing pretty well lately on the player development front. The results in the last couple of years at least seem to be an improvement over the previous regime, which was always very cautious about promoting players.

Ultimately, the quality of the coaching and player development program is far more important than what level a guy is at. The guys with talent and desire should be able to learn at whatever level they are placed.

by acerimusdux on Dec 24, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Ctm-logo_small
My dirty little secret: I was once a Yankees fan
Awesome_small
Sabermetrics and Me: Drowning in Objectivity
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #3

Recent FanPosts

Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #6
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #5
X-wing_small
BrooksBaseball Player Cards: An Amazing Resource For Mets Fans Who Are Curious About How Pitchers Pitch In The Major Leagues
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #4
Small
Sandy Alderson, @MetsGM, and getting ready for Spring Training
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #1 (edit: and apparently #2)
Small
Two New York Players of OBP Yore

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

Judging by the comments to Matt Callan’s ode to 1986 Mets: A Year To Remember from a few weeks back, the video has a devoted Mets fan following. Despite being too young to remember anything about that season, it has a special place in my fandom as well. It was part of a two video rotation (Ghostbusters being the other) which ran almost daily on my television for a few years in the early 90s. And it remained a once-in-awhile watch through high school and college. 

Unsurprisingly, the physical tape deteriorated over time, and the screen jumps and sound skips made for a less than optimal viewing experience. With sale of the video discontinued, my brother converted it to DVD and gave it to me for Christmas in 2010. See the picture above for the box and DVD. He even created a scene selection function which can be accessed from the main menu. "Get Metsmerized!" plays on loop on the menu screen. It is my favorite Christmas gift ever and is still nice to throw on for a viewing.

"How'd we do it? Mirrors!"
I was flipping through some of my parents' photo albums this afternoon in search of one particular shot of the sign my older sister made for Mets Banner Day back in the late eighties. Though I didn't find that one — I'll post it when I eventually track it down, and I can assure you that it's Keith-themed — but I did stumble upon this wonderful photo of my younger sister's stuffed animal menagerie spread out in front of a glorious rainbow-festooned Mets pennant, also from the late eighties.

She works for the HRC now and was particularly delighted to be reminded of this photo.

(click to embiggen)
Now that banner day is back, hopefully this years will look a little like this. I know it's not great, but i don't pretend to be a professional. embiggen!

Recent FanShots

Dickey is # 2 defensive pitcher
Yahoo Sports comments on Sandy's Tweets
Using hindsight to redo the Mets’ offseason | Mets360
Cespedes to the Athletics
Kevin Goldstein Top 101
Okay, there is no way this is Sandy Alderson
Ike & Duda fantasy stocks rising
Sabermetrics! Fantasy League is live.
What if the Mets Never Traded for Johan Santana? | Patrick Flood
[O]f the $136.7M the Mets spent on players in 2011, $72.8M was given to...

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Ctm-logo_small
My dirty little secret: I was once a Yankees fan
Awesome_small
Sabermetrics and Me: Drowning in Objectivity
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #3

Recent FanPosts

Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #6
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #5
X-wing_small
BrooksBaseball Player Cards: An Amazing Resource For Mets Fans Who Are Curious About How Pitchers Pitch In The Major Leagues
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #4
Small
Sandy Alderson, @MetsGM, and getting ready for Spring Training
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #1 (edit: and apparently #2)
Small
Two New York Players of OBP Yore

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


THE BIG GUY

Aa_avatar_small Eric Simon

THE INCREDIBLES

Blackfish2_small Alex Nelson

Endy_small Rob Castellano

Img_1262_small Matthew Artus

Kanye_pekka_small Sam Page

Best_infield_ever_small James Kannengieser

Metsstitches_small Eno Sarris

48900_1085732804_4466_n_small Chris McShane

Lg_rocker_ap_small Matthew Callan

Billy_and_daddy_4th_of_july_small Bill Petti

THE NEWS GURUS

Mrmet_small Steve Schreiber

3_small Stephen Schmidt

159714144_040c6c1501_small Pack Bringley

124967042_crop_340x234_small Jeffrey Paternostro