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After being placed on waivers a couple of days ago, Ruben Gotay was claimed by the Braves today. And bang your head against the wall.... now.

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at least it was just keppinger
that we gave up for nothing.  enjoy atlanta, gotay.  im sorry that youre now scum of the earth through no fault of your own.  other than sucking too much to make the mets' roster that is.

by kendynamo on Mar 28, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well
He didn't suck at all and should have made the roster. He's no where near as bad defensively as people make him out to be, and considering how over-rated Castillo's defense is, how risky it is not to have a QUALITY back up for Castillo when he misses 30-40 games this season.

Plus Gotay is already better than Castillo offensively. Everyone thinks Gotay was a one season wonder but he was once one of the best prospects in baseball and was horribly rushed by the Royals and it stunted his development.

Now he's a Brave. Fucking hell.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Mar 28, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't Willomar
say that Tatis can play a good second base. Come one Future get with the program.

by DoctorK16 on Mar 28, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar
has never seen Tatis play second base competitively.

Tatis played second base for two innings in 2006. Must have been a spectacular two innings.

Fucking Omar.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Mar 28, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

we did this to keep that
great baseball star Fernando Tatis. I'm sure he'll supplant that bum David Wright and become a batting champion.

by DoctorK16 on Mar 28, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

D'oh!
What else is there to say?

by madisonmetsfan on Mar 28, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

WONDERFUL!
I read up top that he sucked, but he didn't. The Mets didn't want him. They gave him no opportunity and would rather have old veterans, like always.

He was let go in favor of and given less PA's (yes, injury, I know) in spring than 25 year old AA minor leaguer Argenis Reyes (who had a nice spring, but seems to have problems OPSing over 700 in a full season), 25 year old Anderson Hernandez (who, while I love him, is a joke. One of those unpredictable kinds, you don't know if you're going to be staring at it afterwards because it's so pathetic, or if you're going to be laughing so hard because it's so damn funny.), 32 year old Fernando Tatis (who has barely even been a useful player in the bigs this century, depending what you call useful), 32 year old slapper Luis Castillo (who many, including I, who believe Gotay should've been put in there for last season), and, he of the .205 September BA, Jose Reyes. Yeah, I went there. I'm that pissed.

Who the hell gets to keep his roster spot on this team? Veterans and Reyes and Wright? Few opportunities, do well in them, time to pack your bags!

"I thought I did a good job last year. I didn't think I deserved this," the 25-year-old Gotay said with tears in his eyes as he sat in front of his locker.

Good job, "management"

by BlackOps on Mar 28, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

well, its not an abject sucking
i mean, i think the whole deal stinks too, but its not like gotay was ever going to be an allstar.

by kendynamo on Mar 28, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah really
C'mon guys, we're talking about a guy who would have gotten what 150 at bats. Was Ruben Gotay some super prospect or something? He was a nice player and I liked him, but it's not like the season is flushed down the shitter because Ruben Gotay is gone. settle down.
If you gonna act like a fool, I'm gonna treat you like a fool....Fool ~Judge Greg T. Mathis~

by sireric @ Amazin' Avenue on Mar 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't know that
he won't get more than 150 abs, he ended up with more abs than anyone should have expected in 2007. Castillo isn't exactly an iron man. Plus we didn't even trade him or even let him go for a useful player, we did it get fucking Mitchell Report all-star Fernando Tatis on the team. He who hasn't been a productive player since 2000. The worse part of it is, the Mets have become a team where young players can't stay on the roster at all. That works for as now, but as these guys age, we'll have no one to replace them at all. Look for the 2011 Mets to be terrible.

by DoctorK16 on Mar 28, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So wht your saying is

You're more upset with the practice off letting young players leave, more than just the fact that Ruben Gotay isn't here anymore? I get that, but again I would be willing to bet that Gotay isn't making any all star teams.

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 29, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

So?

You're missing the point. It doesn't matter that he won't make any all-star teams. A useful, hard-working player was dumped because the Mets front office values experience over talent and potential. It didn't start with Gotay and sadly I don't think it'll end with him. This team isn't constructed to win a championship, but rather, it's constructed to keep everyone's feelings and the integrity of the game in tact. I'm definitely willing to admit that due to some moves made that this team isn't going to win squat: it isn't a team. Maybe I'm the only person who feels that way, but I'll stick by it until the Mets can prove me wrong.

by BlackOps on Mar 29, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, its BS

i cant imagine fernando tatis being a better addition to the bench then gotay. i think it sucks we lost him for nothing and think it sucks more that gotay is nwo a stupid stupid brave. i just cant get THAT worked up about guy who's projecting to be only marginally above bench for the next few years. i feel like omar et al took a chance on this guy clearing waivers and it obviously backfired, shit happens. at the same time, i see your point about the front office's disturbing trend of favoring experience over youth and potential and am likewise distressed over the development.

but if gotay is really a key to 2011 then we are screwed regardless.

by kendynamo on Mar 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not thrilled with Tatis

I just find it tough to be incredibly upset about Gotay no longer being a Met.

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

That's all I can say. I think Gotay would have remained a useful bench player, so I have no idea why the Mets let him go.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Mar 29, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

Gotay was clearly a good player and he was young so he had the potential to improve. In his place, they decided to keep Fernando Tatis who has done virtually nothing since that great season in 1999 with the Cards. Makes no sense.

FWIW - I have always suspected Tatis's one really good season was steroid induced considering the complete bust afterwards but I maybe wrong.

by millsy on Mar 29, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

steroids

Tatis was in the Mitchell Report

Keep Lastings Milledge Free

by DoctorK16 on Mar 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Missed That

but that doesn't surprise me.

by millsy on Mar 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's all just

take a deep breath. It's Ruben Gotay, for heaven's sake! Tatis is a deadweight, but does anyone really think Gotay's a .295 hitter? And who knew his middle name was Bruce?! WTF!

As long as there are history tests, there'll be prayer in school.

by Lee_May on Mar 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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