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Open Thread - Game #12: Mets vs. Nationals (04/15/2008)

Washington Nationals at New York Mets, Apr 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


With Pedro Martinez's return more uncertain than ever, the further development of Mike Pelfrey becomes critical to the success of this team. The Mets are being slammed for exhibiting a blasé attitude through the season's first two weeks, but they're 5-6 at this point which is most would agree is something short of disastrous. I'd be lying if I said that I liked everything I've seen, but I'm not erecting gallows in my yard just yet. Well, I am, but they're not for the Mets (Damn you, Sasquatch!)

Old and new collide tonight, as former Mets Lastings Milledge, Paul Lo Duca and Manny Acta return to Shea to face former Expos Ryan Church, Brian Schneider and Endy Chavez (!). Pelfrey will be opposed by Odalis Perez, who hasn't bested the league's ERA since 2004, and has only done so twice in parts of ten big league seasons.

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Do it up!

Let’s get a W.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

But of course

Milledge double.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah it figures

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE!!!!!

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

What did those we've got heart ladies say?

hits well but makes mistakes on the base paths.

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

that makes it suck even more

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

now they've got 6

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

[Insert Wright pun here]!

He’s on fire.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

WRIGHT ON TIME!

That’s the best I could come up with in 20 minutes.

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

That was all Wright.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap!

Didn’t get the game form in on time due to work , leaving my consistency-based approach in the dirt. Eric, can’t the forms go up earlier?

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Fridays and Sundays are tough for me, the earlier the better.

It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

The worm has turned!

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

A true gamer, a real dirt-dog, would not let a little thing like work interfere with his consistency.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was up before 4pm

I will try to get them up earlier.

by Eric Simon on Apr 15, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf, hagin?

Running tally of silly crap Wayne Hagin says: “Cristian Guzman has been a really goooood hitter…”

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

He seems annoying

from the little I’ve heard from him so far.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

next up:

“Pelfrey is right there at the beehive and he is messing with the bees!”

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pelfrey!

New year.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

LET'S GO BIG PELF

I walked around saying “big pelf” all day, and my Philly roomates hated it…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

my wife has noted

that I only ever refer to Pelfrey as “Big Pelf.”

“who’s pitching tonight?”
“big pelf”

eh, it’s catchy.

by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is the only reason so far that

I really get excited to talk about Mike Pelfrey, haha.
Of course that will change if he starts 2-0 or better…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

also,

it means he’s money. OED:

pelf, n. 3. Chiefly depreciative. Money, riches (esp. viewed as a corrupting influence); lucre.

Would work better if it weren’t “depreciative,” but still superior to sense 4:

4. a. A worthless person, a good-for-nothing. Now Eng. regional (Yorks.).

Good thing they aren’t the New Yorkshire Mets.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang.

do you have the OED bookmarked?

by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and still.

what makes one go look up “pelf”? did you know it was a word?

by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I have the OED bookmarked. Why are you looking at me like that? Guys?

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ketih made a bold statement there...

saying…”I know it’s only the fourth inning but this is the best I’ve ever seen Mike Pelfrey throw” and… I actually may agree

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

He looks hot

Also pretty sharp in Atlanta last September

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys notice this about Hagin:

He never knows who is in the field for the opposition.

“Coming on is the right fielder, he’ll have to play it on a hop…”

Then Howie has to cut in and mention that it’s Austin Kearns.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I just got in

Nice to see Castillo batting eighth, despite Willie’s recent comments about how awesome he is as a #2 guy.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Pelf!!

That’s exactly what i wanted to see too…. Milledge whiffing…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

BT (the blog not the athlete) called it

Milo loves to flail at the outside pitches

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

nice, Reyes

One smash away from the cycle.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Reyes

Best game he has played in a long time although he could have gotten a HR there if he had run hard out of the box. While a lot of people have started to doubt him, I still believe.

by Endys Game on Apr 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

My kingdom

for a big hit. DW was unlucky there-

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

bah!

hard hit ball, didn’t find the hole. keep smashing it DW.

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Beltran

I bet my life Mr. Unclutch Beltran can’t get a 2-out hit here. The Mets need to improve in this department.

David Wright MVP Watch: .462/1/6! (through 3 games)

by ZaBlanc on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

totally

What an unclutch walk.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you start kissing his ass

for getting a BB then it’s time for me to vomit

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a joke

There’s a little history of Beltran-slagging here that I like to knock down and/or make light of.

What’s this, game 12 of the season? Only 150 more to go.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

so the Beltran lovefest continues

When we win at least a pennant with him on the team give me a call

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

that 30+ bombs, good OBP and fantastic defense aren’t good enough for you.

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've never won a pennant with any of these players

I guess that means they’re all sucky losers.

Beltran’s career playoff line is .366/.485/.817, 11 HR in 22 games, 8 SB and 0 CS. What a loser.

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

clutch!

rabble rabble rabble!!!!!!!!!111

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey the guy is a good player

he was great in playoffs in 2004 and ok in 2006 but that last at bat does stick in my mind. I just wanted to add some balance to this site where many of the bloggers worship at carlos’ feet.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

what blog are you reading?

I hear more people around here say “Carlos Beltran sucks” than maybe any other player on the Mets. So I usually end up defending him.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

delgado

step out of the box and hit that. stop clogging up the bases for fuck’s sake.

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's 11-2

does a GIDP count once or twice? If only once, 10-2

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember

Last year when I went to a game at Shea (vs. the Nationals) there was this giant woman with a Mets cap seated next to me screaming “You SUCK, Pelfrey!”

I wonder if she’s changed her tune at all.

by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

gotta love this shameless bashing of this woman nobody knows…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Sometimes baseball fans are large. I’m decently large, but there are some large New Yorkers (or people visiting New York) that come to stadiums. I never see these people on the street though.

by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that guy

Who got hammered and somersaulted down the steps at Yankee Stadium and almost killed the dude he fell on b/c he was so gigantic?

by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa

I didn’t know about that. That’s crazy.
Wonder if the new stadiums will be somersault-proof.

by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree...

I’m not saying it’s not true, just funny it came up…

To change subjects… I’ve been offered to intern for SNY this summer as an IT intern… Only thing is, it’s unpaid, but I obviously was thrilled that SNY would contact me as a mets fan… anyways, you guys think i should take it?

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

go for it

As long as you can survive the summer without pay, it likely will be a great experience, especially if you want to get into the business. Also, you will meet some cool people, like the on-air people and likely some Mets players.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, i'm going for an interview on Friday

The guy said he’d be real flexibile too, so if I got a paying job on the side, he could work around that schedule as well…

The main issue here is housing, I don’t live in the city and would have to find a way to either live right outside and commute in, or find something inside the city, which is obviously going to be difficult without being paid….

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's great, especially if you can get a paying job on the side

I don’t know how far you are out of the city, but if you can live at home and commute in, you won’t be too bad off. I’m sure you’re young and can handle it.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, go for it!

Unless you have another fantastic opportunity this summer or are close to starving, it sounds great!

by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you want

I expect most committed Mets fans would tell you to take a job emptying the trash cans at Shea, and I think unpaid internships are generally kind of an evil idea, but if it’s something you want to do, do it.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

i’ve always wanted to get into some kind of entertainment business but in the form of something more reliable like an IT position, hence my minor in telecommunications, and am actually hoping this internship could lead to a full time oppurtunity…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a good foot in the door, then

I just don’t like the idea that you have to work for free before you get paid to do the job.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah good point

I haven’t taken the job yet, just set up the interview for friday…
I’m gonna ask about further employment up front, so we’ll see what is said…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like it either

But I think the reality in these entertainment-related industries is that there are people breaking down the door to work there. So they can pick and choose who they want, and not pay them to boot. It sucks, but sometimes you gotta pay the dues.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

I’m 180 lb, and this woman was much bigger.

by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pelfrey is owning

But I’m sure the papers will find a way to bash the Mets tomorrow. Some loser will write a column starting “Mike Pelfrey gave Mets fans one less reason to jump ship last night…”

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Jump ship?

Fuck them, they may think everyone just roots for whoever’s better but this is my team.

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, fuck 'em

The hell with those fictional tabloid journalists. They keep bashing Spider-Man, and now this?

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They deserve it

They’re menaces I tell you! Just keep selling us those pictures of the Mets, kid, and I’ll write the headlines. What’s your name? David who?

by jalsonmi on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

They really don’t understand anything about the Mets or their fans.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

MVP! MVP!

I’m officially throwing his name into the hat.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

elfriedman

neener neener! nah, i’m joking. but nice job going the other way by beltran.

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Beltran

That was a totally crappy single. How could you get only one RBI?

We should trade you for a real gamer!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ooh, new FJM post

I think I’ll read that at work tomorrow morning

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

incidentally

i’m reading that right now. heh.

by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a great article

I pretty much laughed my ass off…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

FJM is required reading

as far as I’m concerned. Check back there often.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trivia answer(s):

Mo Vaughn and Mariano Rivera.

Sorry if I ruined it for anyone.

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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahahaha

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Not many similarities between the two…the questions have been so easy this year. I’ve only missed one or two.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm psyched about Pelf's performance

But I think I gave him a 44 on my form. :(

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like

They gave a passed ball to our excellent defensive catcher on the play, so maybe not entirely Aaron’s fault?

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the best pitching performance of the year?

So far?

Oh, there was that Santana openig start too… what do ya’ll think?

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

yes, totally forgot

the 13-0 win right? That’s probably why I didn’t remember who pitched that…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here are some stats:

Johan on Opening Day: 7 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 2 BB, 8 K
Ollie on April 2: 6 IP, 0 ER, 5 H, 1 BB, 8 K
Figueroa on Friday: 6 IP, 2 ER, 2 H, 2 BB, 6 K
Pelfrey tonight: 7 IP, 0 ER, 5 H, 2 BB, 4 K

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey nice...

Game scores would be awesome to see, but I’m thinking either Big Pelf or Ollie

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT?!

I guess I’m wrong with the trivia answer.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Who were the two players who were allowed to keep wearing #42

when they retired Jackie’s number throughout baseball in 1997?

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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who did they say the other one was

besides Rivera?

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huskey did also wear 42

But I’m not sure how they forgot Mighty Mo

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally lame

Especially since Vaughn played for the Mets!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's stupid

It says on Wikipedia (with a citation) that Vaughn was one of the players who was allowed to keep wearing it.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa

they definitely forgot Mo Vaughn, didn’t they!?

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't understand it

I’m doing some research right now.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

rumor has it...

Dirty Duaner Sanchez is coming in to pitch the ninth.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary Gary Gary

You didn’t actually just say Ray Bradbury wrote “Fahrenheit 411” did you?

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

David Wright

RBI machine.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

also,

that at-bat was fucking epic. Nice to see DW in good form this early in the season.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

MVP chants, go!

The Baseball Jesus is resurrected.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

DW is sick right now...

By the way, I have a Wright fathead (those huge wall stickers) in my room in my apartment, and those things are massive and so freakin cool looking…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

it was a christmas gift...

I was struggling for things to ask for, so I just tossed that idea out there… I got it and was instantly happy I asked…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez coming in

is so sweet to see, I really hope he does well this season, that’d be a great story…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

welcome back, duaner!

Effective or not (and I think he will be), great to see the guy pitching again.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Put it in the books

Great game.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

We gotta take this series...

a sweep would be sweet too, good win.
Put it in the books indeed…

by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Sanchez looked pretty good

Fastball touched 90 or 91, breaking stuff had good movement

by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

PITB

Gary was saying its going to be difficult to decide who goes when WIse returns. No its not, Scott Schoenweis you are the weakest link, bye-bye.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 15, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Sosa

DFA his useless ass. They have Claudio Vargas as 5th-starter insurance.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 15, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

DFA?

I think Sosa’s actually pretty good trade bait to be dealt for a bench bat at this point. Schoeneweis is probably still immovable, though.

by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

remind me never to watch the Mets again

When I watch, bad things happen (like Saturday and Sunday against Milwaukee, or last Tuesday against the Phils). When I DON’T watch, Reyes has his 1st big game of the year, Pelfrey has his best game ever, and Sanchez returns and does well (oh yeah, DWright had a nice night too).

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 15, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Duaner...

... is the man !! I like Heilman, but he’s gonna be pissed for the next couple years unless the start him, and you gotta love Duaner’s enthusiasm and guts

by ottomanrx on Apr 15, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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