Open Thread - Game #12: Mets vs. Nationals (04/15/2008)
by Eric Simon on Apr 15, 2008 6:28 PM EDT
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Washington Nationals at New York Mets, Apr 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
With Pedro Martinez's return more uncertain than ever, the further development of Mike Pelfrey becomes critical to the success of this team. The Mets are being slammed for exhibiting a blasé attitude through the season's first two weeks, but they're 5-6 at this point which is most would agree is something short of disastrous. I'd be lying if I said that I liked everything I've seen, but I'm not erecting gallows in my yard just yet. Well, I am, but they're not for the Mets (Damn you, Sasquatch!)
Old and new collide tonight, as former Mets Lastings Milledge, Paul Lo Duca and Manny Acta return to Shea to face former Expos Ryan Church, Brian Schneider and Endy Chavez (!). Pelfrey will be opposed by Odalis Perez, who hasn't bested the league's ERA since 2004, and has only done so twice in parts of ten big league seasons.
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Do it up!
Let’s get a W.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But of course
Milledge double.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah it figures
It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that evens it out
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NICE!!!!!
It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What did those we've got heart ladies say?
hits well but makes mistakes on the base paths.
It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that makes it suck even more
It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now they've got 6
It's time someone put their foot down... and that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
[Insert Wright pun here]!
He’s on fire.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WRIGHT ON TIME!
That’s the best I could come up with in 20 minutes.
by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crap!
Didn’t get the game form in on time due to work , leaving my consistency-based approach in the dirt. Eric, can’t the forms go up earlier?
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was up before 4pm
I will try to get them up earlier.
by Eric Simon on Apr 15, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf, hagin?
Running tally of silly crap Wayne Hagin says: “Cristian Guzman has been a really goooood hitter…”
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He seems annoying
from the little I’ve heard from him so far.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pelfrey!
New year.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LET'S GO BIG PELF
I walked around saying “big pelf” all day, and my Philly roomates hated it…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my wife has noted
that I only ever refer to Pelfrey as “Big Pelf.”
“who’s pitching tonight?”
“big pelf”
eh, it’s catchy.
by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the only reason so far that
I really get excited to talk about Mike Pelfrey, haha.
Of course that will change if he starts 2-0 or better…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also,
it means he’s money. OED:
pelf, n. 3. Chiefly depreciative. Money, riches (esp. viewed as a corrupting influence); lucre.
Would work better if it weren’t “depreciative,” but still superior to sense 4:
4. a. A worthless person, a good-for-nothing. Now Eng. regional (Yorks.).
Good thing they aren’t the New Yorkshire Mets.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dang.
do you have the OED bookmarked?
by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and still.
what makes one go look up “pelf”? did you know it was a word?
by jadelane on Apr 15, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I have the OED bookmarked. Why are you looking at me like that? Guys?
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Double Play hurts really bad
after that game on Sunday…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ketih made a bold statement there...
saying…”I know it’s only the fourth inning but this is the best I’ve ever seen Mike Pelfrey throw” and… I actually may agree
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He looks hot
Also pretty sharp in Atlanta last September
by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys notice this about Hagin:
He never knows who is in the field for the opposition.
“Coming on is the right fielder, he’ll have to play it on a hop…”
Then Howie has to cut in and mention that it’s Austin Kearns.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just got in
Nice to see Castillo batting eighth, despite Willie’s recent comments about how awesome he is as a #2 guy.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Pelf!!
That’s exactly what i wanted to see too…. Milledge whiffing…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BT (the blog not the athlete) called it
Milo loves to flail at the outside pitches
by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice, Reyes
One smash away from the cycle.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
So I guess I shouldn’t have taken Reyes out of my fantasy lineup?
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice work. there's nothing better to jumpstart the guy.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes
Best game he has played in a long time although he could have gotten a HR there if he had run hard out of the box. While a lot of people have started to doubt him, I still believe.
by Endys Game on Apr 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My kingdom
for a big hit. DW was unlucky there-
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bah!
hard hit ball, didn’t find the hole. keep smashing it DW.
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beltran
I bet my life Mr. Unclutch Beltran can’t get a 2-out hit here. The Mets need to improve in this department.
David Wright MVP Watch: .462/1/6! (through 3 games)
by ZaBlanc on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How dare he take a walk instead of swinging at bad pitches?
What a selfish asshole.
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
What an unclutch walk.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you start kissing his ass
for getting a BB then it’s time for me to vomit
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a joke
There’s a little history of Beltran-slagging here that I like to knock down and/or make light of.
What’s this, game 12 of the season? Only 150 more to go.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the Beltran lovefest continues
When we win at least a pennant with him on the team give me a call
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've never won a pennant with any of these players
I guess that means they’re all sucky losers.
Beltran’s career playoff line is .366/.485/.817, 11 HR in 22 games, 8 SB and 0 CS. What a loser.
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey the guy is a good player
he was great in playoffs in 2004 and ok in 2006 but that last at bat does stick in my mind. I just wanted to add some balance to this site where many of the bloggers worship at carlos’ feet.
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on Apr 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what blog are you reading?
I hear more people around here say “Carlos Beltran sucks” than maybe any other player on the Mets. So I usually end up defending him.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
delgado
step out of the box and hit that. stop clogging up the bases for fuck’s sake.
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pelfrey's mouth guard
Does not mess around.
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haven't been keeping track
anyone know pelf’s gb/fb now?
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's 11-2
does a GIDP count once or twice? If only once, 10-2
by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember
Last year when I went to a game at Shea (vs. the Nationals) there was this giant woman with a Mets cap seated next to me screaming “You SUCK, Pelfrey!”
I wonder if she’s changed her tune at all.
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
gotta love this shameless bashing of this woman nobody knows…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Sometimes baseball fans are large. I’m decently large, but there are some large New Yorkers (or people visiting New York) that come to stadiums. I never see these people on the street though.
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that guy
Who got hammered and somersaulted down the steps at Yankee Stadium and almost killed the dude he fell on b/c he was so gigantic?
by Simons on Apr 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
I didn’t know about that. That’s crazy.
Wonder if the new stadiums will be somersault-proof.
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree...
I’m not saying it’s not true, just funny it came up…
To change subjects… I’ve been offered to intern for SNY this summer as an IT intern… Only thing is, it’s unpaid, but I obviously was thrilled that SNY would contact me as a mets fan… anyways, you guys think i should take it?
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go for it
As long as you can survive the summer without pay, it likely will be a great experience, especially if you want to get into the business. Also, you will meet some cool people, like the on-air people and likely some Mets players.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i'm going for an interview on Friday
The guy said he’d be real flexibile too, so if I got a paying job on the side, he could work around that schedule as well…
The main issue here is housing, I don’t live in the city and would have to find a way to either live right outside and commute in, or find something inside the city, which is obviously going to be difficult without being paid….
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's great, especially if you can get a paying job on the side
I don’t know how far you are out of the city, but if you can live at home and commute in, you won’t be too bad off. I’m sure you’re young and can handle it.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, go for it!
Unless you have another fantastic opportunity this summer or are close to starving, it sounds great!
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you want
I expect most committed Mets fans would tell you to take a job emptying the trash cans at Shea, and I think unpaid internships are generally kind of an evil idea, but if it’s something you want to do, do it.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
i’ve always wanted to get into some kind of entertainment business but in the form of something more reliable like an IT position, hence my minor in telecommunications, and am actually hoping this internship could lead to a full time oppurtunity…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like a good foot in the door, then
I just don’t like the idea that you have to work for free before you get paid to do the job.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah good point
I haven’t taken the job yet, just set up the interview for friday…
I’m gonna ask about further employment up front, so we’ll see what is said…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it either
But I think the reality in these entertainment-related industries is that there are people breaking down the door to work there. So they can pick and choose who they want, and not pay them to boot. It sucks, but sometimes you gotta pay the dues.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
I’m 180 lb, and this woman was much bigger.
by ivythesheep on Apr 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pelfrey is owning
But I’m sure the papers will find a way to bash the Mets tomorrow. Some loser will write a column starting “Mike Pelfrey gave Mets fans one less reason to jump ship last night…”
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jump ship?
Fuck them, they may think everyone just roots for whoever’s better but this is my team.
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, fuck 'em
The hell with those fictional tabloid journalists. They keep bashing Spider-Man, and now this?
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They deserve it
They’re menaces I tell you! Just keep selling us those pictures of the Mets, kid, and I’ll write the headlines. What’s your name? David who?
by jalsonmi on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP! MVP!
I’m officially throwing his name into the hat.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
elfriedman
neener neener! nah, i’m joking. but nice job going the other way by beltran.
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beltran
That was a totally crappy single. How could you get only one RBI?
We should trade you for a real gamer!
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ooh, new FJM post
I think I’ll read that at work tomorrow morning
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
incidentally
i’m reading that right now. heh.
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a great article
I pretty much laughed my ass off…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FJM is required reading
as far as I’m concerned. Check back there often.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trivia answer(s):
Mo Vaughn and Mariano Rivera.
Sorry if I ruined it for anyone.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm psyched about Pelf's performance
But I think I gave him a 44 on my form. :(
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like
They gave a passed ball to our excellent defensive catcher on the play, so maybe not entirely Aaron’s fault?
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the best pitching performance of the year?
So far?
Oh, there was that Santana openig start too… what do ya’ll think?
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ollie's first start was pretty great too, no?
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, totally forgot
the 13-0 win right? That’s probably why I didn’t remember who pitched that…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here are some stats:
Johan on Opening Day: 7 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 2 BB, 8 K
Ollie on April 2: 6 IP, 0 ER, 5 H, 1 BB, 8 K
Figueroa on Friday: 6 IP, 2 ER, 2 H, 2 BB, 6 K
Pelfrey tonight: 7 IP, 0 ER, 5 H, 2 BB, 4 K
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey nice...
Game scores would be awesome to see, but I’m thinking either Big Pelf or Ollie
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?!
I guess I’m wrong with the trivia answer.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who were the two players who were allowed to keep wearing #42
when they retired Jackie’s number throughout baseball in 1997?
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who did they say the other one was
besides Rivera?
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butch Huskey(!)
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huskey did also wear 42
But I’m not sure how they forgot Mighty Mo
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally lame
Especially since Vaughn played for the Mets!
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's stupid
It says on Wikipedia (with a citation) that Vaughn was one of the players who was allowed to keep wearing it.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
they definitely forgot Mo Vaughn, didn’t they!?
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand it
I’m doing some research right now.
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rumor has it...
Dirty Duaner Sanchez is coming in to pitch the ninth.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary Gary Gary
You didn’t actually just say Ray Bradbury wrote “Fahrenheit 411” did you?
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what I dial my incinerator to,
but only when I’m burning phone books.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Wright
RBI machine.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP chants, go!
The Baseball Jesus is resurrected.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the National pitching staff
is always good medicine for the bats.
by DoctorK16 on Apr 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DW is sick right now...
By the way, I have a Wright fathead (those huge wall stickers) in my room in my apartment, and those things are massive and so freakin cool looking…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've wanted to get one of those for a long time
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a christmas gift...
I was struggling for things to ask for, so I just tossed that idea out there… I got it and was instantly happy I asked…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez coming in
is so sweet to see, I really hope he does well this season, that’d be a great story…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome back, duaner!
Effective or not (and I think he will be), great to see the guy pitching again.
by anonymous on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was nasty
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by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put it in the books
Great game.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
by Prince on Apr 15, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We gotta take this series...
a sweep would be sweet too, good win.
Put it in the books indeed…
by hammy8700 on Apr 15, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez looked pretty good
Fastball touched 90 or 91, breaking stuff had good movement
by JoshNY on Apr 15, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PITB
Gary was saying its going to be difficult to decide who goes when WIse returns. No its not, Scott Schoenweis you are the weakest link, bye-bye.
by DoctorK16 on Apr 15, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sosa
DFA his useless ass. They have Claudio Vargas as 5th-starter insurance.
Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 15, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
screw that
We have enough lefties. Wagner’s a lefty. Feliciano is a lefty. We don’t need a loogy.
by jalsonmi on Apr 15, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention Heilman and Duaner both get lefties out
retire 17
by SQUAD on Apr 15, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
just throwing that out there.
by gogomets on Apr 15, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remind me never to watch the Mets again
When I watch, bad things happen (like Saturday and Sunday against Milwaukee, or last Tuesday against the Phils). When I DON’T watch, Reyes has his 1st big game of the year, Pelfrey has his best game ever, and Sanchez returns and does well (oh yeah, DWright had a nice night too).
Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 15, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duaner...
... is the man !! I like Heilman, but he’s gonna be pissed for the next couple years unless the start him, and you gotta love Duaner’s enthusiasm and guts
by ottomanrx on Apr 15, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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