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Aftermath: Game 13 - Mets vs Nationals

Middling Maine

To paraphrase the utterly mortal words of one Randy Jackson, "Mainey... it was just aight for me tonight, dawg." For the second straight start Maine was effective, but a glance at his final pitching line leaves me anything but impressed. Sure, two runs allowed in 6.2 innings is great. He was generally conservative with his pitches, induced lots of flyballs, and was able to limit the damage when he did get into trouble. That was good enough to beat the Nationals tonight.

I don't think it's fair to compare Maine's first three regular season starts to that six-pack of whoop-tooshie heretofore known as his spring training performance. Spring training starts might as well occur in a vacuum given how little they correlate to regular season starts. Four walks in fewer than seven innings -- plus only four strikeouts to go against them -- probably won't get it done against the tougher teams in the National League, whomever they turn out to be (wild guess: not the Nationals).

Maine is 1-1 but has pitched shabbily enough to be 0-3, having allowed 30 baserunners in 16.2 innings anchored by a discouraging 10-to-12 strikeout-to-walk ratio. It's still early and there are plenty of small sample size (S3) oddities out there. C.C. Sabathia has a 14-to-14 strikeout-to-walk ratio. Fausto Carmona is at 17-to-8. Chris Young is at 12-to-13. Maine will get that sorted out over a large enough set of starts, but the results are unremarkable to this point.

Delgad-whoa!

Remember when Carlos Delgado looked good at the beginning of the season? I guess right now would still qualify as the beginning of the season, but he's down to .245/.351/.367 after taking an oh-fer last night. Just like old times?

WTF of the night

Chad Cordero was slinging junk in the eighth inning last night, and I'm not talking about his genitals. He hit 80 on the radar gun once, hovering in the high-seventies for the majority of his appearance. He made Angel Pagan look silly and was a Luis Castillo infield single away from a 1-2-3 inning. A return trip to the disabled list seems likely.

What else?

Carlos Beltran hit his second homerun of the season and the first that was officially recognized by the umpiring crew assigned to make those sorts of distinctions. He also picked up another walk, his thirteenth of the season. His .448 on-base percentage is drool-worthy.

Jose Reyes has come alive the last two games, collecting six hits in his last nine at-bats. He has just two walks in 52 plate appearances this season, which is bad. I guess I'll worry more about his discipline when he isn't slugging .458, but it'll be a cause for concern if his OBP is still hovering in the .320 range come June.

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Tipping his change?

Keith Hernandez noted last night during the SNY broadcast that the Nats were really teeing off on Maine’s change-up. He thought that maybe Maine was tipping it. (Me thinking: maybe LoDuca shared something?)

by elliot on Apr 17, 2008 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Change up

It’s also possible that, because Maine was having trouble with locating his fastball, they were just sitting on the change.

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 17, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOUIE!

Extra props for that win graphic. (Ideal for defeating one of the two teams that doesn’t reside in a State.)

I did it like this / I did it like that / I did it with a Wiffle Ball bat

by Doc Manhattan on Apr 17, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

who's got some tapioca pudding?!?

I do!

Doc M – which other team doesnt reside in a state?

just me and my horsey and quart of beer.

by kendynamo on Apr 17, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blue Jays play in a province, I believe

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 17, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beat me to it!

Well done, sir.

I did it like this / I did it like that / I did it with a Wiffle Ball bat

by Doc Manhattan on Apr 17, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah duh

i loose that round of final jeopardy

by kendynamo on Apr 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Louie: Who's got a plate of something?

Last Supper Participant: “I do!”
Louie: “What is it?”
Last Supper Participant: “Potato kugel!”
Louie: [You know what he says]

by Eric Simon on Apr 17, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

for those who don't...

I WANNA DIP MY BALLS IN IT!!!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 17, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacobs has

6 homers. I know Delgado a good year for us, but I would rather have Jacobs right now.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 17, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

well, right

That’s sort of the point of trading a young guy for an old guy, the old guy outperforms the young guy early on, but eventually the old guy’s skills deteriorate and the young guy becomes better than the old guy if he develops as projected. And even with his off-the-charts power so far this year, Jacobs hasn’t developed a good batting eye – just 76 walks over the last two full seasons. He’s a decent player, don’t get me wrong, but he makes too many outs to be a great one.

Meanwhile, Delgado has done what you would expect a guy who was 34 when he was acquired to do. He hit well in 2006, RAKED in his first ever playoff appearance that fall (it’s certainly not his fault we didn’t get to the World Series that year), and has since started to deteriorate because he’s played almost 2,000 games.

In other words, that trade worked out exactly as expected for both parties involved. The wild card in that trade was Yusmeiro Petit, who was decent in 10 starts for the D-Backs last year and is still only 23. If he turns out to be the second coming of Pedro we’ll feel pretty silly but the Jacobs-Delgado portion of the trade seems pretty OK all around.

by JoshNY on Apr 17, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you're right, but

this is the problem with being a GM in NY. You have to win now and you can’t build a winning team. If Mets don’t win a championship with Delgado and he’s about done being a real productive hitter and Jacobs is a pretty productive player for 5-8 years then the trade was not a good one for Mets.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 17, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

No

The trade is still a good one because Delgado performed as he was expected to. The playoffs are basically a crapshoot, and Delgado helped the Mets to one division title, almost a second one, and maybe a third one this year depending on how things pan out. It’s not Delgado’s fault (or Minaya’s) that Lo Duca and Reyes and Wright and Wagner and Trachsel were bad in that NLCS, and their poor play doesn’t magically make a trade where the player acquired performed as expected into a bad one.

by JoshNY on Apr 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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