Open Thread - Game #14: Mets vs. Nationals (04/17/2008)
by Eric Simon on Apr 17, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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PrintWashington Nationals at New York Mets, Apr 17, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
Will this be the night that Nelson Figueroa turns back into a pumpkin? After a ridiculously good start last time out, Figgy looks to prove that his first start in 47 years wasn't a fluke.
Here's the lineup for the Mets
Jose Reyes,SS
Ryan Church, RF
David Wright, 3B
Carlos Delgado, 1B
Angel Pagan, LF
Brady Clark, CF
Luis Castillo, 2B
Raul Casanova, C
Nelson Figueroa, P
Carlos Beltran is out with a stiff neck. Must be from watching all of those pitches sail by him for walks. Brian Schneider has stunk up the joint against two lefties so far this series so Willie is giving Raul Casanova a crack at John Lannan tonight, also a lefty. When was the last time the Mets faced three lefty starters in a three-game series?
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i wonder if castillo minds
hitting behind the likes angel pagan and brady clark. oh wait, no i dont. suck it up castillo and earn your effing money.
Is Clark any good on defense?
I can’t remember seeing him play and I’m too old to figure out his Zone Rating or FRAA jazz
Clark's defense
It’s not perfect (nor is any stat) but FRAA says Clark was pretty good in 2004 and 2005 (playing mostly right field in 2004, entirely in center in 2005) and average over the remainder of his career. Not as good as Beltran or Endy but I don’t think he’ll hurt us out there.
I liked it better when we were crushing this guy
Did Randy St. Clair teach him the splitter after the first inning?
Before this game his career numbers were 24 walks and 16 strikeouts
now he has to more strikeouts than walks…
10 k's
are you fucking kidding me? come on boys.
what a terrible call. that’s a fucking foul tip. reyes gets 2nd base.
this is like some kind of nightmare
Not the horror-movie kind… the kind where everything seems to be going wrong in extreme slow motion, and you have to watch it all fall apart and are powerless to prevent it even though it should be easy to fix. It’s like watching a car crash at 1/10 speed here, and none of the Mets seems to be able to steer.
hey now
i guess the nats pitcher is on tonight. that’ll happen. these guys are in the majors for a reason. if we end up losing this game, we can say figgy had another solid start and the nats pitcher was on his game tonight. we took 2/3. we won another series. no big deal. let’s not turn this into metsblog or anything.
this one calls for a nice long vader-esque:
Nnnnnooooooooooooooo!
just as an aside,
I absolutely cannot understand why Willie Harris ever makes it into a game for the Nationals, as loaded as they are with outfielders. I know, I know, defensive replacement, but even giving him a couple at-bats in close and late situations just seems like such a waste when you’ve got Wily Mo Peña, Milledge, and Kearns.
rrrr-ouch!
finally, the - what’s that called - r-b-something?
yeah, that must be it
Something about ribeyes, or rubbies, or something. It’s been a while since I’ve seen one of them, maybe I’ll remember if the Mets can show me a few more.
why throw him a fastball
rauch’s breaking stuff was befuddling delgado. yikes.
that was way too close to take
good pitch, pagan got fooled. nuff said.
scary thought though
reminded me wayyyyyyy too much of game 7. :-(
given the way these two teams are "hitting,"
I am expecting this game to go 14+ innings before somebody squeaks out a run.
there's something you don't see often
Nice job by Church tagging up from first base there.
now that
was some good defense from a catcher.
Taking Feliciano out here seems short-sighted to me
We’re going to see Sosa and Show pitching pretty soon at this rate
I think we should have Giuseppe Franco as our new manager...
then he could say “hey, I never played baseball, I don’t know anything about it…”
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agreed,
but it’s a matter of slight importance. The bullpen has done and is doing its job splendidly in this game already; if the Mets lose at this point the blame has to land squarely on the bats (just as the ball has failed to do).
the point is well taken
but while the issue is still “how do we win?” rather than “why did we lose?”, making stupid pitching choices negatively hurts our chances of winning. later on, we can say, well, that stupid pitching move was/would have been irrelevant because of/if not for the bats. as it stands, that choice may make the actual difference between win and loss.
Bunting
OK, so whether bunting in certain situations is worthwhile is an issue for another day.
Here’s what I don’t get. I don’t get bunting with players who clearly are NOT good at it. (Casanova here, Belliard earlier.)
Wow
I’ve never seen someone with such good speed be so bad at stealing bases. In his defense it took a perfect throw to nail him, but still, what was he thinking?
and...
they make weird calls about when to bunt too!
That commercial kills me every time.
“I don’t own this company… I don’t know anything about it.”
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I think...
...he says “I don’t own anything about it.” Though, your interpretation is funnier, for sure.
seriously,
what the crap could Church have been thinking bunting there?
why are we sure it was Willie's call?
Just because the odds on him making a dumb decision are higher?
Yes.
That’s not enough? I’m not sure it was Willie’s call, I’m just using the overwhelming body of empirical evidence supporting the case for Willie’s mild retardation with respect to in-game strategery.
Hahahahahaha!
Dude, I literally LOL’d there… I don’t know why, but I just imagined Church telling that to a reporter or something.
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HORRIBLE CALL
WOW. that was AWFUL.
and church was instructed to bunt.
nothing else to say.
This is what happens when you’re bound and determined to give up outs to the opposition, and when the whole team goes into a collective slump.
what did
Milledge say about Mets that’s getting him booed
Save America. Impeach Bush
come ON
GOD. should’ve been bases loaded no one out anyway. fuck fuck fuck.
Just an impeccably played game...
bunts with the 2 hitter. Hitters at the end of the lineup unable to execute bunts. 2 out walks by relief pitchers. The list is endless.
They need to offer a tape of this game free with any purchase of a Tom Emanki video.
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It'll be some kind of minor miracle if the Mets score in this inning
Endy-Sosa-Casanova-Castillo is just a parade of outs.
Not really
I remember there were a lot of people who said they really didn’t care because Gotay wasn’t going to be an all-star any time soon.
if the mets could
get something from their 1B(!) and corner outfielders (jury’s out on pagan and church imho), then maybe they wouldn’t need to lean on their 2B for more than good D
pretty sure
that delgado tied the game up. i might be crazy though.
an unlikely clutch single among multiple strikeouts
is not what i look for from a first baseman. more like a 900+ OPS
seriously, though
ryan howard, mark texeira, nick johnson, mike jacobs, and delgado…i just don’t think he fits there anymore.
mike jacobs
and nick johnson? you’re insulting delgado.
Nick Johnson
He’s a terrific hitter and by most accounts a good fielder. Jacobs, not so much on either count.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“Willie Randolph has pushed a lot of good buttons here tonight.”—Gary Cohen, 4/17/2008
certainly
he’s pushed my buttons a number of times.
It's happening this inning.
I can’t imagine what’s going to happen if this turns into one of those epic 20 inning affairs. I’d like to see Wright pitch…
oh, christ.
One more goddamn failed bunt attempt from a good hitter. Just what I wanted to see there.
couldn't you just use that?
I think that post was recap enough, no matter the outcome.
they should at least found some sort of
bunts for cancer charity to squeeze some good from such evil.
maybe now,
with Wright up, he’ll suddenly remember the suicide squeeze?
AIM exchange:
Me: I’m pissed I had to watch the Macarena instead of Giuseppe Franco.
My Brother: well u might get one more chance since reyes apparently bunts every at bat now
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can somebody get a clutch
hit here. Not even a fly ball. nothing and bad bunting to boot.
Save America. Impeach Bush
delgado
here’s your chance to put yourself in the elite company of…mike jacobs and nick johnson? or perhaps they’re walking delgado.
i actually prefer this
instead of schneider.
d'you think
Johan could play second? I’d rather have his bat in there than Castillo’s at this point.
two IBBs here
Have to like that move for the Nationals.
perfect!
Well, nice to see a win, however it’s notched.
sweep!
we’ll take it, no matter how it comes. not every win is pretty. fantastic bullpen pitching tonight, boys.
Sad, but I'll take it!!!
The Metsies continue to show me that they cannot get the clutch hit (though kudos to Delgado in the 8th)...three excellent chances to plate a run and they bungled em all. In the end, the Nats handed us the freakin run.
Come on, boys, let’s turn around these stalled bats and win some more!
David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)
Come on...
that was a VERY clutch taken wild pitch by Schneider. Where was he in the 12th?
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