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Open Thread - Game #24: Mets vs. Braves (04/27/2008)

Atlanta Braves at New York Mets, Apr 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Nelson Figueroa 1-1 5 3 0 0 0 0 20.0 14 9 9 1 10 16 4.05 1.20


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - John Smoltz 3-1 4 4 0 0 0 0 23.0 15 2 2 0 6 31 0.78 .91



On paper this game looks like a terrible mismatch: Journeyman scrub Nelson Figueroa against first-ballot HOF-er John Smoltz (or, if you're Ron Darling, "Schmoltz"). In reality, it may be even worse. The Mets can probably count on getting zero production from their 6-through-9 hitters Delgado-Casanova-Chavez-Figueroa, and David Wright has been particularly woeful in his recent confrontations with Smoltz, flailing away uselessly like some rather ordinary hitter and not the handsome young go-getter that he is.

Despite all that has gone wrong this season -- injuries, head-scratching in-game management, everything Carlos Delgado has done -- the Mets are 12-11, one game over .500 and a game-and-a-half behind the upstart Marlins. If they can somehow win today they will go to 13-11 and drop the Braves to 12-13. But that probably won't happen.

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Swag contest

i don’t get how it works. For some reason, the scoreboard is only counting 2 of my 3 games (yeah, I’m a little behind on that) and I have yet to get any points for game scores despite being within 20 points every time. Anyone else getting that?

When asked why I was a Mets fan, I responded, "pain is my lifeblood."

by wrightHOF on Apr 27, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

well, that's one way to do it.

Smoltz fooled Wright, but he also fooled McCann.

by anonymous on Apr 27, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

freaking Alou

The guy is made of glass.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

the Mets need to go get themselves a left fielder

by DoctorK16 on Apr 27, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

platoon

Endy and Angel seem to be a good platoon/backup situation. Getting a new left fielder would cost a ton, unless they signed Bonds. Which might be interesting, putting him in the cleanup spot … hmmm …
Reyes
Castillo
Wright
Bonds
Beltran
Church
Delgado
Catcher
But then you get someone whose knees seem just as injury prone as Alou’s entire body. I’d say stick with the Angel/Endy platoon, that way you get two great bench players, pinch hitters, defensive replacements, speed, bunters, baserunners, and outfielders. Not a bad collective package over a one-dimensional pain in the tuchus like Bonds.

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

endy and angel platooning

doesn’t give you enough run production fior a corner OF spot. Bonds will happen when pigs are making the approach at LaGuardia instead of planes.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

howevuh...

They’re not #3, 4, or 5 hitters, they’re #2 or #8 hitters and not the guys to drive in runs. Sure, Alou’s bat is incredibly productive, but he’s a #5 hitter, a traditional RBI spot.

We’re in total agreement on the Barry, though. We don’t need no more wacked out free agents like Alomar, Burnitz, Bonilla, etc!

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonds

Production is not of issue. Fred and Son of Fred would never allow their media image to take the hit the signing Bonds would give. The Mets order is a bat short without Alou IMO.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 27, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delgone-o!

That’s nice to see.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

dang

missed the swag contest. but this ok too. way to prove youre not entirely useless delgado!

by kendynamo on Apr 27, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

nelson

dealing it. taste it smoltzeepoo, taste the poop and pee in your mouth.

by kendynamo on Apr 27, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Willie

let Figueroa pitch to 2 batters too many. It seemed pretty obvious that he was done.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Hagin, wtf?

Three times in this game alone he has called Beltran Delgado and then corrected himself. Is it too much to keep track of two guys named Carlos, who look completely different and play radically different positions?

by anonymous on Apr 27, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Church good

Schowenweiss very , very bad

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 27, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like May came early for Delgado

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

zowie

Did you HEAR the sound of that ball exploding off Delgado’s bat????

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A real outfield

Amazing catch with Ryan Church out there, I see Beltran (and everyone else) had forgotten that the Mets now have a real right fielder! No more Burnitz, Cedeno, Green, etc. Makes for exciting times watching the opponents at bat! I like!

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Carlos

just when you thought he was dead….............This happened last year when you thought he was coming out of it only to fall back. Maybe this will be different

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 27, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Memories of Mo

The only good memory I had of Mo Vaughn was him crush-blasting a home run off the middle of the “Budweiser” logo, two-thirds of the way up the right field scoreboard. I was thinking Delgado’s last homer would get there, too, it sounded and looked very similar.

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at that game

Sitting right behind the plate. I’ve never seen anything like that blast. It was ridiculous.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there too

The sound of that homer is something I will probably never hear in another ballgame as long as I live. Right to the end, long after he’d stopped being a good ballplayer in any complete way, when Vaughn got the right pitch, he hit it like nobody else.

by anonymous on Apr 27, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky dogs

Lucky you were there and could feel the shock wave first-hand! I envy you guys/girls. I was at home in LA, watching on MLB Extra Innings or WPIX. My girlfriend had just walked in the room, saw Mo standing at the plate, and said, “My god, he’s HUGE.” And then, blammo. My eyeballs bugged out like Roger Rabbit’s.

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking for the box score

Was this the game with that titanic shot? I think so, but I’m not certain.

by anonymous on Apr 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

I checked, and found another reference on it on Metsmerized. http://metsmerizedonline.com/blog/2008/02/my_top_5_most_memorable_moment.html

I also remember some of Dave Kingman’s dingers … one vanished into the parking lot beyond the left field bullpen back in ‘75 or ‘76, i think.

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

did anyone, anywhere

expect a 3-hit day from Casanova?

by jadelane on Apr 27, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus a homer, too?

Not a chance in my head. I’ve been groaning and moaning about both “Plan A” catchers going on the DL.

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anyone here is interested

I’m going to tomorrow’s game with DoctorK16 and Simons, and I’ve got one ticket to spare. Any takers? I’ve never met these guys before, so it will be a new thing for all of us.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Darling on passion

Interesting and intelligent discussion on the Met fan boo-birds that Ron and Gary are having in the aftermath of Delgado’s homer and his NOT taking a curtain call. Darling said that the main thing fans wanna see is PASSION. For the players to feel things as much as they, the fans, do. The “symbiotic relationship they have with the fans.”

I’m always interested in the psychology of the boo-birds. This kinda sits right with me: it explains why the fans were on the side of guys like Shinjo and McEwing and Timo, who always seemed to be playing their hearts out, but get on guys like Glavine and Beltran, who just seem to be sleepwalking despite being better players than all those other guys combined.

But of course, how can anyone explain last year’s Reyes boobirds? That’s still beyond my ken!

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll admit it

I booed Reyes at the last game of the 2007 season.

I think he popped out like four times, and he seemed so listless, like he didn’t care. It was probably out of frustration more than anything else that I booed him, but after months of that crap last year I was sick of it.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wesley Snipes

Jose needs to keep a copy of “Major League” in his locker. Willie Mays Hayes (Wesley Snipes) owed the manager 20 pushups for every ball he hit in the air. Then they can also have fun watching Wesley’s terrible sliding technique in the film!

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but Jose

should always to remember to pay his taxes or he’ll be on the inactive list for 3 years

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 27, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's one of the Greatest Movies of All Time

as far as I’m concerned.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Apr 27, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I’ve seen it about 40 times over the years. I regret not having started my acting career by the time casting for that film happened—I would have been a MUCH better Japanese groundskeeper than those dudes! ;D

by manuka on Apr 27, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally I the constant

booing. Anytime a reliever gives up any runs or a guy stuggles for a week boos start cascading. It’s like the Orangutans at the Bronx Zoo.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 27, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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