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That Would've Sucked: Barry Zito

New feature time at AA. This is something I like to call "That Would've Sucked", and it's a look back at some event in Mets' history that, were they to have gone differently, would've totally sucked. This inaugural edition is about Barry William Zito.

As recently as 12/20/2006, the Mets looked to be near frontrunners for the services of Barry Zito. At the time, the Mets were ramping up their pursuit of the middling southpaw, going so far as to send the front office brain trust to meet with Zito in Hippieville, California, just an ultimate-frisbee toss from the Pacific Coast Highway. The Mets made it clear to Zito and Scott Boras that they weren't comfortable going beyond five years for a starting pitcher, even one as stunningly mediocre as Zito. Their final offer: $75 million for those five years. Boras and client went away to mull over the Mets' offer, and by "mull over" I mean "urinate on and incinerate".

Mets brass returned to Queens fully aware that they had made a competitive offer that Zito could -- and, more importantly, would -- very easily refuse. A little more than a week later Zito had signed with the Giants for the ludicrous sum of $126 million over seven years, $50 million more than the Mets had proposed. I had mixed emotions at the time. I thought Zito might be a nice fit in Queens were he attainable at a reasonable cost in years and money. Despite his declining peripherals, that Zito could have been counted on for 220 innings of pretty good production had a certain ugly attractiveness to it. Having said that, it was clear even then that offering a contract worth anywhere near what the Giants offered was an absolute no-no.

Now, just over two years later, Zito has pitched so horribly for the Giants that he has been relegated to bullpen duties until such time as he can prove to manager Bruce Bochy that he is capable of converting Major League hitters into outs. Zito's 7.53 ERA and 1.95 WHIP are among the worst in baseball. If you consider that Scott Schoeneweis and his $3 million salary get vehemently booed whenever he touches the ball, try to imagine the vitriol the Shea (un)faithful would unleash upon Zito's frail, free-spirited psyche, given his prepoculous $18 million price tag.

Zito was something short of spectacular last year, but his ERA was just a bit shy of the league average and he chewed up close to 200 innings. Those pedestrian accomplishments are hardly worth the king's ransom he's being paid, but a league-average innings muncher is still worth $8-$10 million in today's free agent market. That averageness has gone to shit this year, and it looks like his fastball is to blame.

Check out his PITCHf/x data from last year and this year.

Year Fastball MPH Fastball % Changeup MPH Changeup %
2007 86.01 59.73 73.93 4.59
2008 84.88 52.24 75.10 20.90

Zito lost a litle more than a tick off of his fastball between 2007 and 2008. That may seem insignificant (it isn't), but he also gained more than a tick on his changeup. For whatever reason -- perhaps a loss of confidence in his sluggish fastball -- Zito began throwing the "heater" with far less regularity this season, favoring the changeup in its place. Considering that Zito threw the changeup less than 5% of the time in 2007, I gather that it probably wasn't a terribly effective pitch to begin with. In 2008 he has thrown the changeup more than four times as often as in 2007.

The fastball-changeup relationship is a symbiotic one, and their mutual success often relies as much on speed differential as it does on quality of the pitches. In 2007, the difference between the speeds of Zito's fastball and changeup was 12.08 MPH on average. This year, given the drop in velocity on his fastball and the increase in velocity on his change, that difference has fallen to 9.78 MPH. That's a delta of 19%, which is really a dramatic regression.

Some other things: If we can believe the PITCHf/x charts, Zito has completely abandoned his slider and is throwing a cutter and a splitter in its stead. I'm not familiar enough with Zito's repertoire to know if he has really changed his arsenal or if PITCHf/x is just identifying his pitches differently. I also noticed that Zito had much more consistent movement on his curveball in 2007 (see: the 'Barry Zito movement' charts). This season he has thrown numerous curves that just flattened out and were subsequently pummeled.

Any other observations? General jubilation that the Mets didn't sign him? Suggested captions for the image above?

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1. Yes, that would’ve sucked. I wonder if Zito is a good candidate for the “don’t fall in love with your changeup” advice that Santana was getting earlier. And/or what happened to the great breaking ball that used to be his bread and butter? Everything’s flattened out on him.

2. I think the word “prepoculous” is getting a little tired, and would like to call its old-but-good rhyming companion “ricockulous” out of retirement as a possible platoon partner.

3. In the photo Zito is clearly in recovery from - or just in the middle of - a stroke, slightly panicked, and he’s asking the audience for help remembering which one he throws with.

4. DID I WIN THE CONTEST OR DID METSLAW OR AMS258 OR SOMEBODY ELSE WHERE IS MY SWAG I WANT SWAG HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE TO WAIT

by anonymous on May 1, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Zito was shaky...

Zito was shaky before he signed that deal. It would have been a scary proposition to sign him to a long deal. He had a WHIP of 1.4 his last season in Oakland! Still, I remember being hopeful to get him. You see, I am in that fortunate position of being a Mets fan in Colorado, so I don’t have to worry about escalating ticket prices. ;-)

So, it was a safe gamble.

Reminds me of another certain hitter…what’s his name…Andrew? Andru? :-)

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 1, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Caption

Here’s my caption:
“OK, I’ll prove it! I still have all my fingers!”

by elliot on May 1, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

PITCHf/x

You should take the PITCHf/x charts with a grain of salt. It categorizes the pitches based on how they act rather than the intention of the pitcher in throwing them.

Considering Zito’s thrown a grand total of two “splitters,” I’d wager they’re just two-seam fastballs that were slower than anyone expected.

He’s also thrown only eight cutters, though in that case I know Zito’s tinkered with one in the past. It’s also possible they were actually sliders, as I’ve seen PITCHf/x miscategorize soft-tossers’ sliders as cutters in the past.

by Alex Nelson on May 1, 2008 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Cutter

And I remember that a lot of folks thought Pedro used to throw a slider until he explained that it was actually a cutter, so in some cases they can move pretty similarly.

by Eric Simon on May 1, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zito

is the suckiest suck that ever sucked. If you don’t count his years with the A’s anyway.

by ams258 on May 1, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

"Shomov" at the time of Zito's signing:

There’s nothing I like more than a guy with a below average fastball who can’t throw strikes.
He’ll be out of baseball before his contract expires.

and

I would be very surprised if he continues to be an above average pitcher as he advances in age.

by JohnPeterson on May 1, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

barry zito?

i thought that was the kid from the sopranos.

Pedro offers you his protection.

by pj on May 1, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Caption Comment....

“See, this is the position I take when all those line drives come screaming at my head.”

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on May 1, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

caption

Contract: 7 years $126M
Cost of 3 pk of banana hammocks: $10
Finding a team willing to pay 10 times more than I am worth: Priceless

by losangelesmets on May 2, 2008 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Perez = Zito

I think we’ll be saying the same thing next year when Perez leaves, gets overpaid and emplodes…lol!

by MAN in the BOX on May 2, 2008 3:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Fantasy (Trades Allowed) League

Hello fellow Met Fans, I’ am currently trying to start a new Fantasy BaseBall League at MLB.com that WILL allow trades. As of right now there are 8 GM’s so there is only 4 more spots to fill. The Live draft will be held tonight (friday) at 10:00pm. If you are not able to make the draft, please feel free to still join, as you can set your pre rankings, and you will have the option to trade after the draft anyway (unlike a regualr fantasy league). The information you need is posted below. Thank you & If you have any problems please email me BklynMetFan08@yahoo.com and I will send you the link.

Information on how to join……….

Go to

MLB.com – click on fantasy, & then MLB 2008 open, sign up, & after you choose your team name, choose to play in a Private League.

LEAGUE ID: 69004

LEAGUE PASSWORD: fantasy08

by MikeN08 on May 2, 2008 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Umm

I’ll be very disappointed if this is the only thing you ever post here.

by Eric Simon on May 2, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I second that! You should post that garbage over on the espn boards.

by MAN in the BOX on May 2, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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