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Open Thread - Game #5: Mets vs. Braves (04/06/2008) on SNY

New York @ Atlanta


Good start - bad start - good start - bad start. Does that mean we get a good start today?

Tom Glavine was scheduled to start today. Bobby Cox ostensibly pushed Smoltz up because he didn't want his ace pitching in the cold weather of Colorado this week following a stint on the disabled list with a tight shoulder. In reality, he probably just didn't want Tom Glavine facing his former team. While it's unlikely that the Mets' hitters would dominate Glavine the way the Braves hitters did for all those years Tom Tepid pitched for the Mets, it was a reasonable precaution given the importance of these early season games.

RIP Charlton Heston. He was a crazy gun nut, but he made some great films. With apologies to Marky Mark, the original Planet of the Apes still stands as an equally wonderful work of science fiction and social commentary and remains my favorite Heston flick. Soylent Green was also very satisfying, even if Phil Hartman made sure that the surprise ending was anything but. Here is the money shot (spoiler alert, as if you didn't know).

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god she was hot. Heston was a lousy actor who made some good movies. Agreed that Planet of the Apes is an all-time great

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 6, 2008 3:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Charlton

Can I have your gun now.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 12:56 PM EDT   1 recs

lol

OK, now that's funny.

"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner

by dissento on Apr 6, 2008 1:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

argh

Shouldn't have listened to Mets Extra, it's causing painful memories to resurface.

Willie Randolph: "I still was comfortable with the matchup" of Sosa vs. Kelly Johnson with the bases juiced.

Sir, you were the only one in the ballpark who felt that way.

by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 1:00 PM EDT   0 recs

i actually have a sillier move he made

can Reyes not bunt with Castillo on deck in the top of the inning. Castillo has power than an led light.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree

I'm sure Bobby Cox must've felt quite comfortable with the matchup

by JoshNY on Apr 6, 2008 1:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As was pointed out in yesterday's game thread...

Gerry Davis (today's home plate ump) has the smallest strike zone in the league. Smoltz certainly seems to feel like he's getting victimized by that thus far.

by JoshNY on Apr 6, 2008 1:46 PM EDT   0 recs

First inning pitch counts

Santana: 11
Smoltz: 25

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:54 PM EDT   0 recs

MLB.tv

shit the bed

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 1:55 PM EDT   0 recs

MLB Extra Innings

You should have a free preview on cable/satellite.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

srsly?

on every cable system everywhere? even botswana, where i live?

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If they offer Extra Innings

There should be a free preview.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no

I don't even have digital cable

hell, my cable is stolen

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

Is gameday audio working on MLB.com?

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've got

a nice 400K feed going now.

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ronnie

Why does he think John Smoltz is Jewish? Keeps calling him "Schmoltz".

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT   0 recs

in contrast

Keith keeps calling Brian Schneider "Snyder".

by JoshNY on Apr 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Right

They really need to come together on this one and go one way or the other here.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I say

Add a "Sch" to the front of everyone's name. Jose Schreyes, David Schright, Carlos Schbeltran, Johan Schantana, etc.

by JoshNY on Apr 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Niiice

Schmantana lands on second after Schmotsay misplayed that one.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT   0 recs

santana!

we'll take it. nice work johan

by gogomets on Apr 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT   0 recs

jose

work the count...christ

by gogomets on Apr 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Castillo is killing us batting second

from that side. He's got 20 watt bulb bat.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT   0 recs

because Willomar love the vets

I can live with him on the team but he has to bat down in the order. Bat Pagan second for now and then revisit when Alou returns.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the crazy thing

is that Willie hates to squeeze and that's only thing Castillo can give you in that spot.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Schmotsay

mmmmmmmmm

veteran

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Gah

Wright misplayed that one.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Awesome

Santana flashes the leather. Nice little play there.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Ugh... Pagan

Has he ever played outfield before?

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT   0 recs

looked even worse

on the replay

by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT   0 recs

why

Isn't Endy playing every day? He's obviously a better defender

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT   0 recs

He can't hit for shit

The Mets are going to ride Pagan as long as he is hitting.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

All I've seen from Endy

is line shots all over the field

this spring and early season

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hmmm

all i've seen from endy is .270/.311/.374 in his career

by gogomets on Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You can have his spring performance

I've got his entire major league career on my side. He doesn't walk and has zero power. If you'd like to trot that killer combo out to left field every game, be my guest.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pagan is a better hitter

Plus Endy tends to get really exposed when he plays a lot. Although today might have been a good day to run him out there with Johan on the mound.

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont think i can watch these next few guys flail

Smoltz is nasty though, credit where credit is due. Maybe we beat on the bullpen hmmmmmm

by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

Delgado really botched that one. Nice play by Kotsay, but that was embarrassing.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT   0 recs

where in the hell

was delgado going? do major leaguers really make retarded mistakes like that?

by gogomets on Apr 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT   0 recs

nice little rythym

nice little rythym
nice little rythym
nice little rythym

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Burkhardt

Doesn't he look like a child wearing his father's suit jacket?

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT   0 recs

That was exactly

What I said. To the word.

by Blackfish on Apr 6, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what i hate about the braves announcers

They get really really excited when the Braves do something good, but when the Mets do something good they act like it's just really boring.

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Yesssssss

Nice little double-play grounder there.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:45 PM EDT   0 recs

heston

awesome in waynes world 2. best cameo of all time!

now lets get some god damn runs.

by kendynamo on Apr 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Hah

I was looking for that clip on YouTube to no avail. "I once knew a girl who lived on Gordon Street."

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If this were Baseball Mogul

Angel Pagan would be the 75/78 guy you shuffle between AAA and the big league team to cover the last bench spot.

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Agreed

[Another] one of Omar's transgressions this offseason was not having a serviceable backup (again) for Moises Alou.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hooray

for pinch-hitting for Smolta here. Even if Gotay homers it'll be a win for the Mets.

by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes

The Mets weren't doing dick against him.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gerry Davis

All of a sudden he has a big strike zone.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT   0 recs

The first pitch to Wright

was closer to being a strike than those last two pitches to Castillo.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hands up

everyone who called a 1-0 game in the swag contest

by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT   0 recs

What the hell

is Luis Castillo waiting for.

At this point in his career he's just hoping to draw a walk.

At this point = beginning of 4-year contract

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT   0 recs

sheesh

Apparently the Mets hitters feel bad for Smoltz having to leave early and have decided to pretend he's still pitching.

by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT   0 recs

"With all respect to [Wright's] defensive ability,

Chipper Jones should have won the Gold Glove."

-Braves announcer

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT   0 recs

bwahaha

Those guys are really almost as amazing homers as Sterling and Waldman, aren't they? Might as well give Chipper the Cy Young, too.

by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 3:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Even if Chipper were the best defensive third baseman in the league -- which he clearly isn't by almost any measure you choose except for chaw-dipping and woman-ogling -- Larry only played 126 games at third last year.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

Apparently the Mets have never hit Chipper with a pitch.

There's a first time for everything.

by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

with all respect to Chipper defensive abilty

he sucks so bad Cox tried to stick him the OF. He should win a gold glove when they are ice skating in Hades.

-DoctorK16

by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

Not to defend Larry, but he was moved to left field because the Braves acquired Vinny Castilla, who was considered an exemplary third-baseman at the time. It was a selfless move by Chipper, really.

Now I have to go take a hot shower. I feel dirty.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In the announcer's defense

A couple fielding metrics had Chipper better than Wright last year, and the others had the pair very close. Neither one deserved the Gold Glove (or deserved to finish second for that matter), however.

by Blackfish on Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Santana

again gets stronger as the game goes on. He also does it with economy. A terrific pitcher to watch. For that matter so is Smoltz.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Apr 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Delgado

Zero swinging strikes today. I hope everyone took the Under on that one.

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Am I the only one

who would actually be okay if "Never Gonna Give You Up" were eventually chosen as the eighth inning song at Shea?

by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:31 PM EDT