Open Thread - Game #5: Mets vs. Braves (04/06/2008) on SNY
New York @ Atlanta

Good start - bad start - good start - bad start. Does that mean we get a good start today?
Tom Glavine was scheduled to start today. Bobby Cox ostensibly pushed Smoltz up because he didn't want his ace pitching in the cold weather of Colorado this week following a stint on the disabled list with a tight shoulder. In reality, he probably just didn't want Tom Glavine facing his former team. While it's unlikely that the Mets' hitters would dominate Glavine the way the Braves hitters did for all those years Tom Tepid pitched for the Mets, it was a reasonable precaution given the importance of these early season games.
RIP Charlton Heston. He was a crazy gun nut, but he made some great films. With apologies to Marky Mark, the original Planet of the Apes still stands as an equally wonderful work of science fiction and social commentary and remains my favorite Heston flick. Soylent Green was also very satisfying, even if Phil Hartman made sure that the surprise ending was anything but. Here is the money shot (spoiler alert, as if you didn't know).
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Leigh Taylor-Young was great in that one
Let's Go Mets!
by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 12:36 PM EDT 0 recs
god she was hot. Heston was a lousy actor who made some good movies. Agreed that Planet of the Apes is an all-time great
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on
Apr 6, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
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lol
OK, now that's funny.
"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner
by dissento on
Apr 6, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
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argh
Shouldn't have listened to Mets Extra, it's causing painful memories to resurface.
Willie Randolph: "I still was comfortable with the matchup" of Sosa vs. Kelly Johnson with the bases juiced.
Sir, you were the only one in the ballpark who felt that way.
by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 1:00 PM EDT 0 recs
i actually have a sillier move he made
can Reyes not bunt with Castillo on deck in the top of the inning. Castillo has power than an led light.
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
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I disagree
I'm sure Bobby Cox must've felt quite comfortable with the matchup
by JoshNY on
Apr 6, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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As was pointed out in yesterday's game thread...
Gerry Davis (today's home plate ump) has the smallest strike zone in the league. Smoltz certainly seems to feel like he's getting victimized by that thus far.
by JoshNY on Apr 6, 2008 1:46 PM EDT 0 recs
Weird
Those last three pitches to Delgado could have easily been balls.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
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MLB Extra Innings
You should have a free preview on cable/satellite.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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srsly?
on every cable system everywhere? even botswana, where i live?
by JohnPeterson on
Apr 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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If they offer Extra Innings
There should be a free preview.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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no
I don't even have digital cable
hell, my cable is stolen
by JohnPeterson on
Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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Ronnie
Why does he think John Smoltz is Jewish? Keeps calling him "Schmoltz".
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT 0 recs
in contrast
Keith keeps calling Brian Schneider "Snyder".
by JoshNY on
Apr 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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Right
They really need to come together on this one and go one way or the other here.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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I say
Add a "Sch" to the front of everyone's name. Jose Schreyes, David Schright, Carlos Schbeltran, Johan Schantana, etc.
by JoshNY on
Apr 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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Niiice
Schmantana lands on second after Schmotsay misplayed that one.
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Castillo is killing us batting second
from that side. He's got 20 watt bulb bat.
by DoctorK16 on Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Somebody remind me why we gave him a four year contract?
by JoshNY on
Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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because Willomar love the vets
I can live with him on the team but he has to bat down in the order. Bat Pagan second for now and then revisit when Alou returns.
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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the crazy thing
is that Willie hates to squeeze and that's only thing Castillo can give you in that spot.
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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Awesome
Santana flashes the leather. Nice little play there.
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT 0 recs
why
Isn't Endy playing every day? He's obviously a better defender
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT 0 recs
He can't hit for shit
The Mets are going to ride Pagan as long as he is hitting.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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All I've seen from Endy
is line shots all over the field
this spring and early season
by JohnPeterson on
Apr 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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hmmm
all i've seen from endy is .270/.311/.374 in his career
by gogomets on
Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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You can have his spring performance
I've got his entire major league career on my side. He doesn't walk and has zero power. If you'd like to trot that killer combo out to left field every game, be my guest.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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Pagan is a better hitter
Plus Endy tends to get really exposed when he plays a lot. Although today might have been a good day to run him out there with Johan on the mound.
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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i dont think i can watch these next few guys flail
Smoltz is nasty though, credit where credit is due. Maybe we beat on the bullpen hmmmmmm
by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT 0 recs
Wow
Delgado really botched that one. Nice play by Kotsay, but that was embarrassing.
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT 0 recs
where in the hell
was delgado going? do major leaguers really make retarded mistakes like that?
by gogomets on Apr 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT 0 recs
nice little rythym
nice little rythym
nice little rythym
nice little rythym
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Burkhardt
Doesn't he look like a child wearing his father's suit jacket?
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT 0 recs
what i hate about the braves announcers
They get really really excited when the Braves do something good, but when the Mets do something good they act like it's just really boring.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT 0 recs
heston
awesome in waynes world 2. best cameo of all time!
now lets get some god damn runs.
by kendynamo on Apr 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT 0 recs
Loved him in the tim burton ape movie
damn them all to hell
by Simons on
Apr 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Hah
I was looking for that clip on YouTube to no avail. "I once knew a girl who lived on Gordon Street."
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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If this were Baseball Mogul
Angel Pagan would be the 75/78 guy you shuffle between AAA and the big league team to cover the last bench spot.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT 0 recs
Agreed
[Another] one of Omar's transgressions this offseason was not having a serviceable backup (again) for Moises Alou.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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hooray
for pinch-hitting for Smolta here. Even if Gotay homers it'll be a win for the Mets.
by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT 0 recs
Gerry Davis
All of a sudden he has a big strike zone.
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT 0 recs
The first pitch to Wright
was closer to being a strike than those last two pitches to Castillo.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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Hands up
everyone who called a 1-0 game in the swag contest
by Simons on Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT 0 recs
What the hell
is Luis Castillo waiting for.
At this point in his career he's just hoping to draw a walk.
At this point = beginning of 4-year contract
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT 0 recs
sheesh
Apparently the Mets hitters feel bad for Smoltz having to leave early and have decided to pretend he's still pitching.
by anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT 0 recs
"With all respect to [Wright's] defensive ability,
Chipper Jones should have won the Gold Glove."
-Braves announcer
by JohnPeterson on Apr 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT 0 recs
bwahaha
Those guys are really almost as amazing homers as Sterling and Waldman, aren't they? Might as well give Chipper the Cy Young, too.
by anonymous on
Apr 6, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Wow
Even if Chipper were the best defensive third baseman in the league -- which he clearly isn't by almost any measure you choose except for chaw-dipping and woman-ogling -- Larry only played 126 games at third last year.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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wow
Apparently the Mets have never hit Chipper with a pitch.
There's a first time for everything.
by JohnPeterson on
Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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with all respect to Chipper defensive abilty
he sucks so bad Cox tried to stick him the OF. He should win a gold glove when they are ice skating in Hades.
-DoctorK16
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
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Well
Not to defend Larry, but he was moved to left field because the Braves acquired Vinny Castilla, who was considered an exemplary third-baseman at the time. It was a selfless move by Chipper, really.
Now I have to go take a hot shower. I feel dirty.
by Eric Simon on
Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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In the announcer's defense
A couple fielding metrics had Chipper better than Wright last year, and the others had the pair very close. Neither one deserved the Gold Glove (or deserved to finish second for that matter), however.
by Blackfish on
Apr 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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Santana
again gets stronger as the game goes on. He also does it with economy. A terrific pitcher to watch. For that matter so is Smoltz.
Save America. Impeach Bush
by elifriedman on Apr 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Delgado
Zero swinging strikes today. I hope everyone took the Under on that one.
by Eric Simon on Apr 6, 2008 3:23 PM EDT 0 recs
we have the slugging lefty catcher
Schinder on deck so It might make some sense
by DoctorK16 on
Apr 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
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it's not him you worry about, it's the guy behind him
Santana has one of the most convincing hits of the game so far.
by anonymous on
Apr 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
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Am I the only one
who would actually be okay if "Never Gonna Give You Up" were eventually chosen as the eighth inning song at Shea?

