Open Thread - Game 38 - Mets vs Nationals
by Eric Simon on May 14, 2008 6:16 PM EDT
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PrintWashington Nationals at New York Mets, May 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
Mets
Jose Reyes SS
Ryan Church RF
David Wright 3B
Carlos Beltran CF
Moises Alou LF
Carlos Delgado 1B
Brian Schneider C
Damion Easley 2B
Claudio Vargas RHP
Nationals
Felipe Lopez 2B
Cristian Guzman SS
Ryan Zimmerman 3B
Aaron Boone 1B
Austin Kearns RF
Elijah Dukes CF
Wily Mo Pena LF
Jesus Flores C
Tim Redding RHP
Discussion starter: How many starts will Claudio Vargas make for the Mets this season?
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Wasn't he supposed to be back next week?
Or is that just me pretending everything is all right? (As the Nats get a leadoff double)
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
Nice bounce back
I know nothing about this guy, other than that he’s unspectacular. He seemed completely unphased by the lead-off double, which I take to be a good sign.
The nye Mets are my favorite squadron.
I'd like for the Mets to ring up a nice, comfortable lead
and then I’d like for a reliever to groove one to WMP so he can hit CitiField from here
Reyes got nothing on that throw
I realize his ‘action’ was taking him in the wrong direction, yadda yadda, but I still expect more from our #7
More bad luck for Beltran
The guy has killed the ball all season and far more often than not this is what has happened.
He's locked in, but you'd never know it from his numbers
People who look at numbers think he’s having a bad year; people who watch the games know differently
They're keeping Sofrito's warm for Beltran
You’ll never guess who’s there—Marc and Jenny from the block!
Way to go with that one Delgado
And by “go with that one” I mean “try futilely to pull the ball, thereby assuring yourself of a harmless groundball”.
I went with DoctorK16 and my brother.
What a crummy night. It was freaking cold, and we got to see Willie and Omar give Figgy and Sosa enough rope to hang themselves, yea.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna go one of these days
But I have a bit of a fear of heights so I try to avoid the upper tank whenever possible. Maybe we can just get Loge for a game you don’t already have tickets to.
I have tickets to every game.
Or I can get ‘em, at least.
Come on, Eric, the Upper Deck is where the real fans sit. You know that.
By the way, it was cool to hang with Doc. You chat with a guy on here for a couple of years, it’s nice to finally meet him, since you feel like you already know him.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on
Folks really get a kick out of Geek Day, which we’re doing in Pittsburgh this year.
I’ve sat in the upper deck on occasion, but my folks had season tickets in the loge for a couple of years in the late eighties so I spent most of my time there.
ugh, Pittsburgh
Great park and all, but the last time I went there I saw the Mets lose three games in three days. I won’t be going back any time soon (at least to see the Mets play there).
Of course, I returned to New York after that weekend and watched the Mets clinch the division on Monday at Shea. Trachsel threw a great game, of course.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
god, Hagin is horrible on the radio
You have no idea what’s actually happening when he makes a call on a fly ball.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
I have a shitty old one, but no cable.
So I get to see the Mets on Fox and the CWB-11. And I see them in my mind via the beautiful descriptions from Wayne “Yee-Haw” Hagin.
For the longest time I had no TV at all. When I got one, it was a little black-and-white job. I finally upgraded to color a while back. I realized recently that I have never purchased a TV in my lifetime.
I was planning to get an LCD or something before baseball season, but then I got season tickets and decided it could wait.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
D-Dub
Dude musta graduated from the Scott Brosius school of bare-handedness. You know, except that he’s good at other stuff, too.
Why does Willie keep going to Heilman with the game on the line?
We all know he’s going to blow it at least half the time.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
and Willie allows him
to stay in way too long. I have a feeling that Willie might not last the year. He didn’t deserve to be brought back after last year’s debacle and he should be gone now
Save America. Impeach Bush
Yes, it would be understandable
I know that Pedro and El Duque are never healthy, and we’re lucky Vargas even pitched that well. But the longer the Mets hang around .500, the more you have to look into why it’s happening.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
Heilman is broken
Peterson needs to figure out why before they send him out there again, this is ridiculous
Ugh
This is awful. Unwatchable, really. I’m an ardent Heilman supporter, but that boy just ain’t right.
joe smith
strikes out zimmerman on 3 pitches. why wasn’t he in? heilman cannot come in with people on base.
Great question
He’d given up 3 hits and thrown 98 pitches. Don’t get it at all.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
I mean, I wasn't watching, so I don't know if Vargas was struggling,
but this is why our bullpen is over worked.
Vargas
He had only made three starts this season before this one, so it’s not inconceivable that he was running out of gas.
Well, I wasn't incensed about it at the time
But I don’t understand why Heilman is being treated like a shut-down setup man but is pitching like a mop-up man.
Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!
Well, yeah
But clearly some of the players (typically veterans) are “his guys” and get more leeway, and some aren’t and are on a shorter leash
i understand that meaning
but it comes off as playing favorites imo
especially when one of his guys SUCKS ASS
how can you win the NL east if you cant beat the gNats? or as Pink Floyd would say
how can you have any meat if you don’t eat your pudding?
totally disgruntled me.
I.M. Forme
Baseball luck is a weird thing
Last night Delgado absolutely crushes a ball that would be a 3-run homer in another park, but it’s just a loud out. Tonight he dinks a ball off the pitcher’s glove for a single and advances Chavez (who would later score) to third.
the thing about Heilman is
that he picks his spots to be a terrible failure. any time the mets pump up the tire of hope, heilman is there to deflate it. Vargas has a perhaps improbably good start and Errant is there to piss all over it. He has taken over for Armando in the Metsosphere. I’m done with him.
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You know what I don't get?
Why do broadcasters say a batter is “quickly” behind 0-2? The only way a batter can get behind 0-2 is in two pitches.
Just adding some color
We can spend all day picking out the redundancies and tautological nonsense of your average sports broadcast.
i say
its a worthy pasttime. after all we do follow the mets.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
or considering philosophical questions such as
when does “early” turn into “late”?
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
a hitter only has slowly fallen behind 0-2 if streve trachsel is pitching
of course, steve trachsel rarely gets ahead 0-2, so this is a rare occurrence.
thought that was gonna drop well in front of dukes
that really carried
thats a good one
im partial to the geico kid that would put you “into the wall”
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
beat me to it
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Clutchlos.
Wait, that wasn’t a homer, so it doesn’t count.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
indeed.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i would have thought he'd like to continue playing while he isn't injured
rather than argue strikes like a rookie
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not terrible as a fifth outfielder/pinch runner/defensive replacement
He’s playing too much because of injuries and Alou’s ejection
anyone know off the top of their heads
if we’ve won a come from behind victory this year? i dont remember any
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After what point in the game?
I mean, I’m sure there must be some game where we were behind in the third inning and eventually won, at least.
oh i dunno
guess it doesn’t matter
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
2, 3, 4 run deficit
seems insurmountable lately
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Smith and Feliciano have been great
It’s a shame our manager is too stupid to recognize who’s pitching well and who isn’t
Quick
Come up with an amalgam nickname for Delgado, Schneider and Easley. I’m going with “Delschneasley”.
old older oldest not in that order
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
geez after this waste of Vargas' effort and Figgy's demise
how are the Mets gonna continue to attract quality journeyman starters?
I.M. Forme
sell them on
affordable New Orleans real estate maybe?
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by itsmetsforme on May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
reds-marlins:
man on first, nobody out. griffey at the plate. jeff brantley: i’d bunt with griffey here.
....
not to mention
if he does that, they’d walk phillips, who mashes lefties, taking the bat out of his hands.
and phillips just GIDP’d, so stfu brantley.
Probably too strong of a word
Said he should’ve been taken out after he walked (I forget who) though
at least the marlins lost
walkoff single by a guy in his 2nd ML AB, good for him
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