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Open Thread - Game #30: Mets vs. Dodgers (05/05/2008)

New York Mets at Los Angeles Dodgers, May 5, 2008 10:10 PM EDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez 2-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 29.0 28 18 13 1 21 26 4.03 1.69


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Chad Billingsley 1-4 7 5 0 0 0 0 27.2 27 17 16 2 17 40 5.20 1.59

Discussion starter: Would you rather have Joe Torre managing the Mets than Willie Randolph?

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Hell Yeah!

Joe Torre is the man! Another manager I really like is Mike Scoscia of the Angels. Sorry I think I completely butchered his name.

by MAN in the BOX on May 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Answer:

Not if Juan Pierre is going to be batting second and Russell Martin’s walks that far down in the lineup.

by BlackOps on May 5, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

At this point

I’d take almost anyone besides Willie Randolph.

by MAN in the BOX on May 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

how great is it to watch

andruw jones suck?

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on May 5, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

.173 / .274 / .255

OPS+ of 39

if only larry would follow suit

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on May 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

actually...

it’s .425, with 9 home runs, 27 RBI, .717 SLG, and .472 OBP (for OPS of 1.189) Go Larry!

by sddbaker on May 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billingsley

Got a bit of tank ass going on, eh?

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

That was quick

Three up, one pop-up and two strikeouts.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet that tank ass is why he’s gonna be a strike out machine..lol.

by MAN in the BOX on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worked for El Sid

Amongst others. Jonathan Broxton is a big boy, too.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

Isn’t that, you know, more like the right way to say it? Not that I like Jon Miller in any way, you understand.

by anonymous on May 5, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the correct way to say it is . . .

tranny.

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on May 5, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

As opposed to BEL-tron?

Not sure. I’m no master of ethnic pronunciation.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

excuse me, that's "pronunciation of color"

I think it is actually Carlos Beltrán, accent on the second syllable. Not that Miller speaks a word of Spanish—he probably just stumbled onto that by accident.

by anonymous on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that was fast.

late games for all of you are not-so-late games for me.

good to be back…..finally got a new laptop.

EAMUS METROPOLIS!

by pingel on May 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay, non-ghetto technology

These late games are killers. Not sure I’ve got the juice to make it through the whole thing. And by “juice” I mean “HGH”.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man.

living in California some times has it’s advantages. sometimes.

EAMUS METROPOLIS!

by pingel on May 5, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Schneider

Dude is a top-shelf defender. If he weren’t drawing so many walks he’d be useless.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like Ollie

is reverting back to 2005 form. He’s a nut case

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

it's the first inning

he hasn’t walked anyone. i’m not worried yet

by DoctorK16 on May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Control is definitely better

At least he’s making them hit it. They might hit it at somebody.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's wild in the strike zone

That cliche brought to you courtesy of Tim McCarver and your local Tim McCarver dealership

by Simons on May 5, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never seen that

He literally got beaned right in the crap factory.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Scully rules

When I put together my first techno single it’s going to sample Vin saying “San Pedro de Macoris” over and over and over again

by Simons on May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay walk!

Reyes now has eight (one intentional) in his last seven games.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea, I guess

I’m already sleepy. Not sure if I want to tough this one out. It may be time to find fat cat pics again.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

meow.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 5, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, that is one big pussy!

I know I should leave Beltran out of it at this point, I’m sorry.

by Simons on May 5, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely the right call

Suck it, headfirst slide into first.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Not sure if it’s his thumb, or just overall suckiness, but Schneider looks terrible.

by Eric Simon on May 5, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm excited

about ~900 plate appearances for Castillo and Schneider this year.

by JohnPeterson on May 5, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got a fever

and the only prescription is more cowbell.

by JohnPeterson on May 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

yea

4 runs seems insurmountable.

fire Willie imo

by JohnPeterson on May 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hardly a Willie apologist

But I don’t think it’s really all on him that the Mets are having a hard time hitting good pitching.

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Delwyn

Can’t be D. Young, can’t be De. Young, can’t be Del. Young.

by JohnPeterson on May 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Gary and Ron kidding with the Wise

thing? Sosa or Show have to be the ones to got, fuck there contracts. You can’t send out Pagan and Smith that would be a crime.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

unfortunately

they are not kidding. That is standard Mets’ operating procedure.

by JohnPeterson on May 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i mean some body needs to send

Omar and Freddie an copy of an Economics textbook with the section on sunk costs highlighted. You can let $2 million dollars derail a team with a $140 million payroll with the expectation to win the world series.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

It’s that expectation which screwed us last year. Stop expecting a World Series this year. We play too many half-ass, no-enthusiasm efforts like this game tonight where we make less-than-average pitchers look like gods.

We have a lot of work to do if we want to consider ourselves contenders.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

look we're not perfect

but when you go out and get fucking Santana you’re expected to compete for it all. You’re negitivity is getting hard to swallow. Where were you when they won 2/3 this weekend.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was there.

It’s not negativity, just calling it as I see it. I’m not a cheerleader, and I’ve been watxching baseball since 1985. This is not a contending team—right now.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the way you see it is

‘See, I told you they suck, you losers’

by Simons on May 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

I love my Mets. I bleed blue. I don’t come on AA for sugar-coating. We’re all fans here. We can speak frankly.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

every team will go through streches where they look mediocre

We’re a game out first. It’s not Memorial Day. Relax brother.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Billingsly CY YOUNG!

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously

Billingsly has legit talent and stuff. Can’t kill them after the job they did this weekend.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

MEh.

Almost saw him pitch when I was out in LA last month. He was supposed to face Lincecum, but the game was threatened with rain and both managers held them out. I don’t think Billingsley ever came in, but I remember Lincecum did come in for a few innings and shut the Dodger fans up. :-)

I just expected more output with Alou and Schneider finally both back in the lineup. Little dissapointed.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aw, no wait...

He was just pitching against the Mets.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Billingsley has struck out massive amounts of guys so far this year

Over 13 K/9 innings. He’s been victimized by BABIP in the same way that Beltran has thus far. Before tonight’s game his BABIP against was .397, that’s just insane. It sucks that his luck seems to have improved against the Mets, but it’s not like we just got beat by Jose Lima.

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice cats

Are they the Mickey Lolich cats? Joe Torre is reborn as a manager, although a good team with good relief pitchers can cover his mistakes. I’ll take Mr Randolph for one more year.

by metsaregreat on May 6, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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