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Open Thread - Game #31: Mets vs. Dodgers (05/06/2008)

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New York Mets @ Los Angeles Dodgers


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New York Mets @ Los Angeles Dodgers

05/06/08 10:10 PM EDT

New York Mets Los Angeles Dodgers
Jose Reyes - SS Juan Pierre - LF
Ryan Church - RF Andruw Jones - CF
David Wright - 3B Matt Kemp - RF
Carlos Beltran - CF Jeff Kent - 2B
Moises Alou - LF Russell Martin - C
Carlos Delgado - 1B James Loney - 1B
Brian Schneider - C Blake DeWitt - 3B
Luis Castillo - 2B Chin-Lung Hu - SS
Nelson Figueroa - P Hiroki Kuroda - P
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Nelson Figueroa 2-1 7 4 0 0 0 0 28.2 26 13 13 1 15 22 4.08 1.43
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Hiroki Kuroda 1-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 37.2 40 18 16 4 8 20 3.82 1.27

Discussion starter: Would the Mets be better off with Mike Piazza than Brian Schneider?

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how is that a discussion starter?

“Yes. Duh.” is not going to make for much conversation.

I’d sure love for my sleepiness tomorrow to be justified by a win tonight. That mess yesterday was discouraging.

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or, to be less cranky about it,

at this point I think substituting Gary Carter’s name for Piazza’s might make it a more interesting question.

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we may has well have Piazza

because at least his bad fielding would be canceled by some hitting

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lullaby

The Yankees’ new messiah, “Jabba” just gave up a 3-run jack in the 8th to give away the lead. I’ll sleep well tonight…

by mmxii on May 6, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great news indeed

I wonder if he started stomping around the mound, yelling his head off, and beating his chest. Or is that just a celebratory act?

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey did anyone see

the article in the post where Willie ripped the Mets fans?

by MAN in the BOX on May 6, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CHUUUCH

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks so

Is Church or Pagan playing CF that is the question. I hope its Church

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooh

AHN-droo comes up short.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he still is

he’s a fat bastard though and he’s lost some range and bat speed because of it

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He used to be the best

But I believe the best is now playing for us (though not tonight).

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To clarify:

“Chuuuch” is a phrase used in hip-hop to express praise, agreement, or real talk. Just for anyone who may be confused…

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahh

I’m still confused.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless it was on Doggystyle

Or The Chronic I haven’t heard it.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great albums

I believe “From Tha Chuuuch To Tha Palace” was from Paid Tha Co$t To Be Tha Boss.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually got Snoop's autograph at Champs in Times Square...

when that album came out. I asked him to sign with a blue sharpie.

by SQUAD on May 6, 2008 11:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he says it constantly

and had a song with it. His reality show on E! is high comedy.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's right

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

West Coast

in Oakland they used to chant ‘Mulder was the case that they gave me’

by Simons on May 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shhh

Captain Fantastic is up for the Yankees. Silence, heathens.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh!

Jetes flew out to center. All is wrong with the world.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

watch for the girly toss

Luis Castillo or Brian Schneider can’t break a pane of glass with their throws right now.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castillo

You can’t blame Castillo for that throw. DW was slow to get the ball to second, and Andruw made a great takeout slide. Good baseball.

Let's Go Mets!

by twassel on May 6, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice

Gold glove in Japan apparently as meaningful as gold glove in USA.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Schneid

Yet. Another. Single.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s suprised me with his bat and disappointed me with his defense. isn’t it suspose to be the other way around?

by MAN in the BOX on May 6, 2008 10:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think so.

He hasn’t hit for any power, and probably won’t. The high OBP is nice, but I doubt it’ll last.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beltran

Flu-like symptoms, for those not watching the SNY broadcast.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castillo

is a different hitter with RISP

by MAN in the BOX on May 6, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea?

.240/.424/.240 w/RISP, .231/.340/.253 overall. I guess he’s coaxed a few more walks, but nothing special.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it seems like he does

i think he’ll hit around .300 this year.

by MAN in the BOX on May 6, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dee-fense

Kuroda attending the Oliver Perez and Mike Pelfrey school of pitcher defense.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In general

I have to say I haven’t been too impressed with this Kuroda fellow.

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look who it is

Senor Nelson. Welcome to the party.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My apologies

For being remiss in my chat duties lately, fellows.

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 10:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's like a lot of the japanese pitchers

that come over. Throws too many breaking balls.

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 10:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The funny thing is

The knock on him before he came over was that he threw too many fastballs.

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 10:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit.

An inning that could’ve made this game a laugher leaves it a ballgame instead. Well, I guess it’ll help the ratings.

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know who Blake DeWitt is

But his AB music is “Immigrant Song” so he’s cool in my book

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trivia

25 years ago today, Darryl Strawberry made his MLB debut. What Reds starting pitcher took him out three times?

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My first instinct

is to say Mario Soto. Why? I can’t name any other Reds pitcher in 1983.

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I looked it up on Retrosheet

Darryl was hitting THIRD in his MLB debut, so much for bringing a guy along slowly!

Mookie Wilson was the leadoff hitter and was 0×6.

The Reds’ starter (who I won’t name) struck out 12 in 9 innings of work (the game went 13)

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 11:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mario Soto?

I think.

Let's Go Mets!

by twassel on May 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice baserunning by Alou

but it’s a damn good thing he made it. Never make the 1st or 3rd out at third!

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alou!

Steal of home!

Let's Go Mets!

by twassel on May 6, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woo!

Way to hustle Moises!

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Willie Randolph

Let’s have some love for our aggressive manager.

Let's Go Mets!

by twassel on May 6, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's gone from John McGraw to Tony LaRussa

Note: I have no idea if John McGraw was conservative or aggressive.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

He got tossed from a lot of ballgames.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn!

Loving the hip-hop references tonight.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was quite a play

Wright sure is a mystery over at third.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice play

Wright’s range has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he’s making an absurd number of highlight-reel plays this year.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what immortal hand or eye

could stop this fucking losing streak?

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really?

I was feeling bad for not having an appropriate Gary Farmer quotation from “Dead Man” at the ready. You want Blake, he’ll give you Blake.

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haven't seen that one

although I think I’ve quoted Stranger Than Paradise three games running now on another message board

by Simons on May 6, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reminds me of this:

Tigers! Tigers, fighting bright
In the ball parks of the night
Your pitching’s fair; your field adroit,
So why no pennants for Detroit?

by Blackfish on May 6, 2008 11:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oldie

I have a favorite Yankee
Really-o, Truly-o
His last name is Guante
And his first name is Cecilio

by Simons on May 6, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCK

Delgado’s gotta make that play

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

ball wasn’t hit that hard

by DoctorK16 on May 6, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Regardless, the Mets should be up 8 or 9 runs right now. The way they’ve squandered opportunities in this game, they almost deserve to lose.

Note I said “almost”. I don’t want them to lose!

by Midas on May 6, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Figs

He has allowed nine baserunners in three innings, so the Mets could very well be losing now.

by Eric Simon on May 6, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yet another runner in scoring position!

I’m finding it hard to be optimistic here!

by Midas on May 6, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez

Kuo made Delgado and Alou look silly

by JoshNY on May 6, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's had the Mets' number since day one

... thus preserving the status Kuo ante in any game he enters.

by anonymous on May 6, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a great story by Vin

Very interesting.

Fight J-Roll the A-Holl!

by Prince on May 6, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh oh

Castillo is down. Good thing we have Ruben Gotay ready to step in. Wait, what?

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And is anyone else giddy at the prospect of a Reyes-Reyes DP combo?

(not giddy in a “i’m excited to have Argenis Reyes as my starting 2B” kind of way, but giddy in a “Wayne Hagin’s head might explode” kind of way.)

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, you're right...

bring up Jose A. Reyes to catch and Raul Reyes for RF as well. Then we could trade for Anthony Reyes to pitch.

This would give Hagin a 55% chance of being right if he referred to everyone as Reyes.

Then again, as you noted, he would probably call them all Delgado anyway.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear God

Argenis Reyes has a .597 OPS in AAA. That’s pretty terrible. (But it’s better than Anderson Hernandez.)

Can Fernando Tatis learn to play 2B?

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 12:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

The Mets are actually winning this game, believe it or not. I know it seems like they’re behind, but it’s 4-3 good guys right now.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's like Trachsel is pitching for both sides here

Should’ve been a time-of-game category in the swag contest—with the over/under at 4hrs.

by anonymous on May 7, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good idea

I’ll have to work that one in there soon.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stop pretending

Trax is a beloved figure in Mets history. Right up there with Tom Seaver.

by Blackfish on May 7, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I kinda miss him

Like I miss that balance disorder I had in the summer of ‘00.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My g/f's mom got me a Mets 6 pack in '06 when I graduate college...

I think I saw Trax like 3 times. You need to clear your schedule for Trax starts.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

... because you’re going to be at Shea until late into the night, as the other team scores 8 or 9 runs.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha...

Did not realize how that read.

In my head I was thinking “Dude took FOR-E-VER (in Sandlot voice) to throw the damn ball. And yes, all the runs as well.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We rag on Trax

And Jebus knows he was dreck when he left, but he was a very decent innings-eater for a few years there. Not nearly as bad as we like to remember.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All too true.

I think I actually posted somewhere that we missed him last year b/c he helped keep the pen fresh.

But he was pretty bad at the end though.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't he have a year

where he didn’t miss a start but didn’t qualify for the ERA title?

by Simons on May 7, 2008 12:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy crap.

At least that ought to wake up the few remaining viewers.

by anonymous on May 7, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why did the game stop?

GameCast is slow. Is the game halted?

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I only wish.

Blake inside-the-parker gives LA the lead.

Wright throwing error puts Hu on 2nd.

by anonymous on May 7, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amazingly, that joke went over Wayne Hagin's head earlier

I shit you not—Howie took the opportunity to re-joke the obvious, and Hagin just continued the conversation about the game without even blinking.

by anonymous on May 7, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like I was saying about Wright

He needs to be able to make the routine throws without air mailing them.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I might actually give a crap about him then.

Co-Author Of The Fourth Most Popular NL West Based Blog On SBN

by Andrew on May 7, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lurker!

This game is dragging on, but at least when the Mets were winning I could hang my hat on that. Now, nothing.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so who does Either have to kill to play every

You guys should trade him to us. We’ll have a shiny new second basemen under contract, low mileage.

by DoctorK16 on May 7, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

that is a major-league mustache on the avatar of Andrew up there

by Simons on May 7, 2008 1:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Zablanc, are you still here?

I await your angry screed about why David Wright is not Big Time Clutch, since he just stuck out with a guy on second and a chance to tie the game.

Oh wait, there’s only one guy on this team who is not Big Time…

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2008 1:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on Clutchstillo

get a fucking hit, you scrub.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what an ugly, ugly loss

Blech.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2008 1:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Piazza or Schneider

If we were talking about Piazza in his prime there would be no question about it. As for today I’ll take Schneider. On a more important note, we are no better then a .500 team!

http://www.myteamrivals.typepad.com/mr_mets_daily

by myteamrivals on May 7, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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