New York @ Los Angeles GameThread, May 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT

Open Thread - Game #32: Mets vs. Dodgers

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT in Game Chatters

Lineup

05/07/08 3:10 PM EDT

New York Mets	Los Angeles Dodgers
Jose Reyes - SS	Juan Pierre - LF
Luis Castillo - 2B	Andre Ethier - RF
David Wright - 3B	Matt Kemp - CF
Carlos Beltran - CF	Jeff Kent - 2B
Ryan Church - RF	James Loney - 1B
Angel Pagan - LF	Russell Martin - C
Marlon Anderson - 1B	Blake DeWitt - 3B
Raul Casanova - C	Hong-Chih Kuo - SS
John Maine - P	Brad Penny - P

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - John Maine	3-2	6	6	0	0	0	0	33.2	32	13	13	3	19	29	3.48	1.51

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Brad Penny	5-2	7	7	0	0	0	0	42.1	42	16	15	2	14	20	3.19	1.32

Discussion starter: Sosa, Figueroa, Smith: Who gets the boot when Matt Wise comes off the DL? Or, should Wise be the one to go?

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Sosa.

Wise at least deserves a chance to fail.

Sosa has failed already.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT 0 recs

Agree

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on May 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

a mild one. I think Sosa is a pretty bad pitcher but he has been proven slightly useful at times as an innings eater whn one is needed or to get out one or two RIGHT HANDED HITTERS (are you reading this Wille Randolph!!) . Thats it. Wise however I see no value to. He is coming off an arm injury and looked awful to me the brief times he pitched. He also had a terrible second half last year with the Brewers. The bottom line is Sosa and Wise both pretty much stink but at least Sosa has come through for us once in a while.

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT 0 recs

I dissent with the dissent

I thought Wise looked pretty nasty, except for a few bad pitches. I think there is more upside to Wise in the pen than Sosa.

To me, Sosa being an innings eater is like saying someone is a classy hooker. It’s not really a compliment.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

One more Sosa note...

Getting him off the team means Willie CAN NOT misuse him anymore. I am in favor of anything that makes Willie’s job simpler.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

on another note

No excuses. If Maine wants to be considered a top flight pitcher for this or any other team he needs to give us at least 7 if not 8 quality innings today. I know its early still but we need to give this bullpen some rest!!

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT 0 recs

If Maine wants to be considered a top flight pitcher for this or any other team he needs to give us at least 7 if not 8 quality innings today.

This is hyperbole, but the spirit is there. Maine has been pitching better of late, but he’s not #2 material right now. He needs to keep the walks down, keep his composure out there, and avoid the big innings.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Maine can now be considered a top-flight pitcher

by Simons on May 7, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

Duelling perfect games still intact

by Simons on May 7, 2008 3:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Not anymore

Church on Wednesday!

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hey, LaSorda's here, let's make a pasta joke.

HA HA HA HA HA HAH A HA HAHA

by Simons on May 7, 2008 3:29 PM EDT 0 recs

Church

He really has impressed in all facets. He hits, he fields (last night notwithstanding), he throws.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:31 PM EDT 0 recs

I still miss Lasto

I agree though. Church is a productive player who really should be hitting 2nd in the lineup.

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

Definitely,

but with Alou and Delgado sitting out, he needs to be hitting 5th.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's fine with me

But I’d like Church to bat between Reyes and Wright when the regular lineup is playing

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

WTF was that?

A hit with RISP?

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Make that two

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bad Penny

as he often seems to be against the Mets. I don’t know if he has improved somewhat lately but I know at one point the Mets had 1927 Yankees like numbers against him.

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:39 PM EDT 0 recs

Pagan Out

Anyone know why?

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 4:01 PM EDT 0 recs

from espn.com (their caps, not mine)

NEW YORK LEFT FIELDER ANGEL PAGAN LEFT THE GAME IN THE THIRD INNING WITH AN APPARENT LEFT SHOULDER INJURY. HE WAS INITIALLY INJURED FALLING INTO THE STANDS WHILE CATCHING A FOUL BALL IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

7-0

Wooooot! Anyone got change for a Penny? chortle

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 4:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Why is it...

that we demolish Brad Penny but we can’t do shit against Hong-Chih Kuo?

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:38 PM EDT 0 recs

Same reason

D-Dub comes up huge with the bases loaded and the Mets up 8-0 and he can’t do doodily squat when the Mets are trailing.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

God, what, an asshole

He’s not clutch at all.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'd like to note

That the shortstop is Chin-Lung Hu, not Hong-Chih Kuo. Taiwanese Dodgers are not quite than interchangeable…

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs

I know that

I’m talking about the pitcher, the one who made the Mets look terrible last night.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not at your comment

But the lineup card seems to have an error.

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL, yes, it does

Eric! FIX IT!

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

what is this 11-0 shit?

I don’t watch one game and the Mets decide to score all their runs at once? Let’s make our Pythag look all pretty so we have an excuse to win only 85 games.

Ah, being a Mets fan. It ain’t easy being this negative.

by JohnPeterson on May 7, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs

Is for me. :-)

Beltran made 2 of the 3 outs in the 6-run 5th inning.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 7, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

ZaBlanc

I noticed you haven’t updated your David Wright MVP Watch stats in a while. Just for the record, under you advanced clutch system, that last 2B by Wright does not count as clutch correct?

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 4:55 PM EDT 0 recs

Waiting

We’re gonna wait for the slump to end. It wouldn’t be a good MVP watch right now. ;-) There have been no clutch hits in this game except for John Maine’s bases loaded single.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 7, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

And yet somehow we scored 12 runs

Why? Because ALL hits are important.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

Raul Casanova doubles (2) on a fly ball to center fielder Matt Kemp. Two out.

Wait, an extra-base hit by a catcher? What’s that?

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs

you're all welcome

forgot to start john maine today in fantasy. siiiiiiigh.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs

now with extra special

ERA under 3! The prize: a crossword made of mint and licorice.

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Maine's managing his pitches nicely

Only 76 through six innings. It’s within the realm of possibility that he could go 8 today. (That would be nice because it would give the bullpen some rest AND because it would get Gary and Ron to stop complaining that we haven’t had a starter go longer than 7 yet this season.)

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up 0 recs