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Open Thread - Game #32: Mets vs. Dodgers

New York Mets at Los Angeles Dodgers, May 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - John Maine 3-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 33.2 32 13 13 3 19 29 3.48 1.51


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Brad Penny 5-2 7 7 0 0 0 0 42.1 42 16 15 2 14 20 3.19 1.32

Discussion starter: Sosa, Figueroa, Smith: Who gets the boot when Matt Wise comes off the DL? Or, should Wise be the one to go?

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Sosa.

Wise at least deserves a chance to fail.

Sosa has failed already.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on May 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dissent

a mild one. I think Sosa is a pretty bad pitcher but he has been proven slightly useful at times as an innings eater whn one is needed or to get out one or two RIGHT HANDED HITTERS (are you reading this Wille Randolph!!) . Thats it. Wise however I see no value to. He is coming off an arm injury and looked awful to me the brief times he pitched. He also had a terrible second half last year with the Brewers. The bottom line is Sosa and Wise both pretty much stink but at least Sosa has come through for us once in a while.

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I dissent with the dissent

I thought Wise looked pretty nasty, except for a few bad pitches. I think there is more upside to Wise in the pen than Sosa.

To me, Sosa being an innings eater is like saying someone is a classy hooker. It’s not really a compliment.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more Sosa note...

Getting him off the team means Willie CAN NOT misuse him anymore. I am in favor of anything that makes Willie’s job simpler.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

on another note

No excuses. If Maine wants to be considered a top flight pitcher for this or any other team he needs to give us at least 7 if not 8 quality innings today. I know its early still but we need to give this bullpen some rest!!

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

If Maine wants to be considered a top flight pitcher for this or any other team he needs to give us at least 7 if not 8 quality innings today.

This is hyperbole, but the spirit is there. Maine has been pitching better of late, but he’s not #2 material right now. He needs to keep the walks down, keep his composure out there, and avoid the big innings.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Church

He really has impressed in all facets. He hits, he fields (last night notwithstanding), he throws.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I still miss Lasto

I agree though. Church is a productive player who really should be hitting 2nd in the lineup.

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely,

but with Alou and Delgado sitting out, he needs to be hitting 5th.

by SQUAD on May 7, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine with me

But I’d like Church to bat between Reyes and Wright when the regular lineup is playing

by ams258 on May 7, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad Penny

as he often seems to be against the Mets. I don’t know if he has improved somewhat lately but I know at one point the Mets had 1927 Yankees like numbers against him.

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

from espn.com (their caps, not mine)

NEW YORK LEFT FIELDER ANGEL PAGAN LEFT THE GAME IN THE THIRD INNING WITH AN APPARENT LEFT SHOULDER INJURY. HE WAS INITIALLY INJURED FALLING INTO THE STANDS WHILE CATCHING A FOUL BALL IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

7-0

Wooooot! Anyone got change for a Penny? chortle

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is it...

that we demolish Brad Penny but we can’t do shit against Hong-Chih Kuo?

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Same reason

D-Dub comes up huge with the bases loaded and the Mets up 8-0 and he can’t do doodily squat when the Mets are trailing.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to note

That the shortstop is Chin-Lung Hu, not Hong-Chih Kuo. Taiwanese Dodgers are not quite than interchangeable…

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I know that

I’m talking about the pitcher, the one who made the Mets look terrible last night.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is this 11-0 shit?

I don’t watch one game and the Mets decide to score all their runs at once? Let’s make our Pythag look all pretty so we have an excuse to win only 85 games.

Ah, being a Mets fan. It ain’t easy being this negative.

by JohnPeterson on May 7, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Is for me. :-)

Beltran made 2 of the 3 outs in the 6-run 5th inning.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 7, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZaBlanc

I noticed you haven’t updated your David Wright MVP Watch stats in a while. Just for the record, under you advanced clutch system, that last 2B by Wright does not count as clutch correct?

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Waiting

We’re gonna wait for the slump to end. It wouldn’t be a good MVP watch right now. ;-) There have been no clutch hits in this game except for John Maine’s bases loaded single.

David Wright MVP Watch: .311/4/14! (through 12 games)

by ZaBlanc on May 7, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're all welcome

forgot to start john maine today in fantasy. siiiiiiigh.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

now with extra special

ERA under 3! The prize: a crossword made of mint and licorice.

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maine's managing his pitches nicely

Only 76 through six innings. It’s within the realm of possibility that he could go 8 today. (That would be nice because it would give the bullpen some rest AND because it would get Gary and Ron to stop complaining that we haven’t had a starter go longer than 7 yet this season.)

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

92 pitches through 8

Leave him in there, Willie! If you can’t let your pitcher finish out a game when he’s on track for a two-hit shutout, up 12-0, and under 100 pitches, when can you?

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to take some credit also

for picking Maine to falter in the swag contest

by Simons on May 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

chan ho park!

will get 9 straight outs against us.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely

Our bats have been put away for the flight home. I think we’re going up there with wiffle ball bats or something.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that was 4 straight rollovers before church’s K. jesus, that’s just laziness.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that i'm complaining

score 12 runs and your pitcher is cruising, who cares right

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

It’s not like Park’s been bad this year

by ivythesheep on May 7, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is it

i’m right on these off-the-cuff predictions and i suck ass at the swag contest? EFF!

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i get a hat

or something, eric? maybe a pen?

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

you win a coupon for a free meal at Bennigan's

with the purchase of a meal of equal or greater value of course

by Simons on May 7, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maine

I say Complete Game. might be the only one this year!!

by Endys Game on May 7, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn't compare to watching on actual TV, of course

But MLB.com Gameday is pretty darn good for a free service

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice outing by Maine

8 IP, 92 pitches, 61 strikes, 2 hits, one walk, no runs. He’s the Maine man today!

Let's Go Mets!

by twassel on May 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

AND

1-3 with a run and 2 RBI

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOO

He struck out, now only 1-4. That makes his game entirely worthless.

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm glad he wasn't throwing a no-no before

that would’ve been worse than that lame dribbler last year that broke it up

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck.

good game johnny. the bullpen thanks you.

by gogomets on May 7, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

woops

if not for Castillo. He stinks.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on May 7, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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