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New York Mets @ San Diego Padres


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Johan Santana 7-3 12 12 0 0 0 0 81.2 78 31 29 12 20 71 3.20 1.20
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Randy Wolf 3-4 12 12 0 0 0 0 70.2 67 34 34 6 23 64 4.33 1.27

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LOL! BRO...ARE YOU KIDDING?

I can’t even vote on this question…

You should have had a 3rd option…(neither)

But it’s really a good question.

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would say Show, but only if he’s facing a lefty.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jun 6, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jose Valentin

When is he going to get here and help the team reach its potential?

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

surely you can't be serious

If we’re going to bring back a useless old dude to restore the team’s mojo, I have two words: Steve and Trachsel

by Simons on Jun 6, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

yea, i’m “serious”

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castillo

Fucking Castillo is the laziest fucking fielder. Willie should bench his as ala Reyes and J-Roll.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No no no

He’s a “proven veteran.” He was simply “conserving energy.” He’s “wily.” He “knew Santana would get the double play later in the inning.”

If Ruben Gotay had done the same thing he would’ve been benched for a game or two though.

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Washington Nats Blog

Just spent 2 1/2 hours blogging there.

Maximum of 4 people. And that’s after I invited someone. Cool fellas though.

Alright! LETS GO METS.

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Santana

Johan shot his buddy Castillo a dirty look there.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"strength of the Mets bench"

Keith, have you been snorting the funny stuff again? What strength is there to a whole bunch of over-the-hill 2Bs?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea

but look at those names

those are ballplayers

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of 2Bs

Remind me again why they couldn’t find a roster spot for Gotay? If they needed so many 2Bs, couldn’t they have found room for one with, you know, UPSIDE?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is too young

Yes, too young to begin the training

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arrogant Bastard Ale

(from San Diego! I just realize)

This is an agressive beer. You probably won’t like it. It is quite doubtful that you have the taste or sophistication to be able to appreciate an ale of this quality or depth. We would suggest that you stick to safer and more familiar territory—maybe something with a multi-million dollar ad campaign aimed at convincing you it’s made in a little brewery, or one that implies that their tasteless, fizzy yellow beer will give you more sex appeal. Perhaps you think multi-million dollar ad campaigns make a beer taste better. Perhaps you’re mouthing your words as you read this.

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why no Castro tonight?

Is Schneider’s defense just “that valuable”?

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it better

because his offense keeps getting worse.

Jesus, with this lineup, we just might get no-hit by Randy freakin’ Wolf.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in fairness

Wolf splits are better against righties than lefties

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

.240/.299/.367 vs. right
.326/.420/.488 vs left

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also Endy's defense

more than makes up for how crappy a hitter he is, right? Especially vs. LHP? We couldn’t use Pascucci there?

Fucking Mets. Fucking fuck fuck. Morons.

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll pop in to say one thing

What kind of corner outfield are the Mets fielding tonight?

Seriously, this is a Major League ballclub?

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jun 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Answers

1. bad
2. technically

by Simons on Jun 6, 2008 10:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

our oufielders

Play the Game the Way it Was Meant to be Played

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the game was meant to be played crappily?

Not talking about Beltran, of course.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Is that just a fancy way of saying that he ain’t clutch?

by Eric Simon on Jun 6, 2008 10:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you said it exactly!

His gritscrap ratio is low too

by Simons on Jun 6, 2008 10:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Mets gritscrap ratio sucks

ever since they lost LoDuca.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

And that’s consistent with his historical PtGtRW Index. Positive in the minors and early years, then dipping into negative numbers in his years with the Mets.

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giles be juicing

Marcus Giles should have been on the cover of the Mitchell Report along with his brother.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marcus Giles' numbers fell off a cliff?

Right around the same time the steroid story broke and everyone stopped using?

Imagine that.

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

Just like his brother’s power numbers (OK, it might be the cavernous ballpark).

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brian at least had other redeeming value

Like a career OBP over .400. Not to mention he’s in his late 30s, when it’s normal for players’ power to be declining. Marcus should be in his prime and he blows.

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and another thing

he looks like a robot / android / mannequin / toy soldier

by Simons on Jun 6, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh

Reyes lined out. There goes one of the 3 non-automatic outs in the lineup.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perfect game!

WOLF THROWS PERFECT GAME SATURDAY NIGHT IN SAN DIEGO
Veteran Left-Hander Shuts Down High-Powered New York Offense

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nicely done

So instead they’ll be one-hit and lose 1-0.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One-hitter!

WOLF THROWS ONE-HITTER FRIDAY NIGHT IN SAN DIEGO
Veteran Left-Hander Shuts Down High-Powered New York Offense

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keith: "Easley is a threat to steal a base."

Me: “What year is it?”

Easley hasn’t stolen a base since 2006; hasn’t stolen more than 4 in a season since 2001.

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when do we get a real LF back

you know, one that can hit and field

by englishgrey on Jun 6, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was supposed to come off the dl

but didn’t and Willie didn’t say when he would come off. Sigh.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two-Hitter!

WOLF THROWS ONE-HITTER FRIDAY NIGHT IN SAN DIEGO
Veteran Left-Hander Shuts Down High-Powered New York Offense

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean two-hitter

Hey, let’s just swing at the first pitch every time.

This offense is fucking terrible. Good thing we got Nunez.

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we need a large supply of worthless infielders

In other news, Philadelphia beat Atlanta. Is is wrong of me to be happy with that result, because I’m willing to concede the division and play for the wild card?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a coincidence

We happen to HAVE a large supply of worthless infielders!

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three-Hitter!

WOLF THROWS THREE-HITTER FRIDAY NIGHT IN SAN DIEGO
Veteran Left-Hander Shuts Down High-Powered New York Offense

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a joke

Why the fuck did Chavez hesitate?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he thought Wolf was gonna get it

but it shouldn’t have mattered because if he did he would have been no position to throw out endy anyway

by DoctorK16 on Jun 6, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because he's old and his knees would've fallen off if he'd tried to advance?

Actually, probably because it didn’t look like there was much chance that ball was going to get caught and Castillo was most of the way to second so he could score if it wasn’t.

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

c'mon Carlos

Pick ‘em up.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"bases are loaded for Easley"

You never want to hear those words.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't get it

the dude’s minor league numbers are fine…why not give him a shot?

by gogomets on Jun 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because

He’s a career minor leaguer

Easley, et. al are proven major leaguers

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because

he hasn’t been given a chance?

You’re right, though. Nunez is better. Sure am glad that Abraham got to hit in a tie game in the eighth inning last night. His career 62 OPS+ certainly should afford him that opportunity.

(rolls eyes)

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe it's because he's not that good

The EXPOS wouldn’t give him a chance when they were in full cost-cutting mode and they were MISERABLE

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 11:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there's just no evidence to support that

Pascucci can’t hit better than every player on the Mets bench

While “statistics” and “history” would suggest otherwise

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there might be

but looking at his minor league stats, i can’t figure out why. i really hope people aren’t evaluating him based on SIXTY TWO at bats in the majors.

by gogomets on Jun 6, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what up fellas

i see we’ve…scored a run!!!!!!111 wow…what a catch.

by gogomets on Jun 6, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh wow...

after a fielding gaffe by santana…a baserunning gaffe! roll it up boys

by gogomets on Jun 6, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it just me

or do both Gonzalezes on San Diego look exactly the same?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mirror images

A-Gonz is a little tubbier, looks more like Dante from Clerks.

by Eric Simon on Jun 6, 2008 11:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really?

That would make sense. I guess with Gonzalez being a common name, I hadn’t thought of that possibility.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here we go

Crafty veteran out-duels big ticket Santana
In a battle of left-handers, Wolf comes out on top, limiting the high-powered Mets to one run on just five hits

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

this game is a microcosm of this season. I wish I had reason to believe they’ll make a comeback, but that’s such a 2006 notion.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in more snarkily amusing news

Guess what roided up Milwaukee reliever blew the game by giving up 4 runs to Colorado without recording an out?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 6, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why wouldn't castro pinch-hit against the lefthander?

and why do we have two fat-ass backup catchers on the bench?

by englishgrey on Jun 6, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

It really makes no sense.

I thought the whole point of having a 3rd catcher was to use Castro as a PH.

by JohnPeterson on Jun 6, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your assumption was incorrect

Your assumption being that Willie uses “logic”

by JoshNY on Jun 6, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course

why would anyone in their right mind pitch to Reyes there?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exhibit a

of why Castillo shouldn’t bat 2

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 12:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is he waiting for?

Apparently he thinks drawing walks and clogging the bases wins you games

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right file, wrong case

I think that was Exhibit A for the courtroom next door, People vs. Why Castillo Shouldn’t Bat AT ALL.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm

Not like anything good can happen here.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

I hate being right about this stuff.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so it goes

At least the Rays won. As long as they never have to play in Boston again, they should win that division.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kazmir

6-1, 1.40 ERA…what a kick in the balls

by englishgrey on Jun 7, 2008 12:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for the reminder

But you know, Zambrano might have a Cy Young season for us, too, one of these years.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The year before the Mets traded for him...

Zambrano won the “Triple Crown,” reading the AL in hit batsmen, wild pitches, AND walks.

What the fuck were we doing?

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This year...

In 14 games (6 starts) for the Rockies’ AAA affiliate in Colorado Springs, Zambrano is 0-6 with a 9.45 ERA and a 2.30 WHIP.

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's the high altitude

He’d thrive at Shea if we gave him another shot.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The problem with Reyes and Beltran?

too much power

and they don’t, nor have they ever played 2B

that is inexcusable

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually, Reyes did

Remember, when Matsui first showed up?

Ah, 2004. At least I expected the Mets to suck that season.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh

I meant to say Wright and Beltran

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beltran

I really think he will be underappreciated throughout his Mets career, and only after he’s gone will everyone realize what a great player he was.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

too bad the Mets wasted his prime by surrounding him with crap

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly

I worry that the Mets will waste David Wright and Jose Reyes by surrounding them with crap.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this got me thinking...

when is fmart coming back from injury…this team could use a decent outfielder

by englishgrey on Jun 7, 2008 12:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope they don't bring him up

In retrospect part of the reason that Milledge is not here anymore is that brought him up to get abused in 2006. Let him be in AA.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 12:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Mets could improve

simply by replacing Easley, Chavez and Cancel/Casanova with Aguila, Feliciano and Pascucci

don’t hold your breath

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pascucci

I appreciate the advocacy on behalf of a potentially useful player, but the Mets problems stretch waaaay beyond what he could fix.

Of course, if you’re using him as a symbol of everything that’s wrong with the Mets front office, then please continue.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd prefer Jesus Flores to serve in this capacity

But we’ll probably have many other nominees for the position.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 12:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeff Keppinger?

If we’re going to have 6 2Bs on the roster, how about a useful one that WE ONCE HAD????

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

it is sad and pathetic that I am reduced to lobbying for such a marginal and relatively inconsequential maneuver

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course

He’s latino, and laid back (translation: not gritty and gamer-y and full of fire and passion and steriods like LoDuca) and he struck out against Wainwright. He’ll never be truly appreciated for how good he is.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do NY fans really suck this much?

I hope not, even if the evidence does seem to suggest it sometimes. Let’s just remember that the Post readership is not the entire rooting base for the team.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

look at the shit A-Rod gets

Obviously, not all NY fans are that bad, but there’s a fucking pitchfork-wielding minority that is really that bad, and they nearly drove one of the greatest players in history out of town for not being as “clutch” as a mediocrity like Scott Brosius.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice play

Sweet play by Easy E. Looks like Scott Hairston learned sliding from Coco Crisp.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

what is Santana’s game score for this game?

I have no feel for that statistic?

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like 54

50 points
+ 1 point for each out recorded (181=18)
+ 2 points for each inning completed after the fourth (22=4)
+1 point for each strikeout (51=5)
-2 points for each hit (72=14)
-4 points for each earned run (42=8)
-1 point for each walk (11=1) = 54

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weird formatting

The asterisks got translated into bolds.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damnit

so close

I want that perfect game

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope someone gets it

It’s tough. It’s hard enough to get all of the other stuff right, let alone the game score.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

I guess we’re back to Beltran hitting the ball hard but right at fielders?

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bell

living proof that the Mets don’t understand BABIP and DIPS, the biggest development in baseball in the last decade

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe

But it looked like they understood that when they traded Seo for Sanchez and Bannister for Burgos (and I will defend the Burgos trade to my dying day).

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Burgos deal was good

regardless of what the fish say

And the Sanchez deal might have had more to do with love for Sanchez than disdain for Seo

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

I don’t know if we can say it was “good”, but Bannister isn’t anything special. He has blah stuff and an impressive understanding of objective analysis.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bannister

I’m not killing the deal. But I’m starting to think Banny might succeed because he’s so smart. The other trade people over look as that Lindstrom\Owens for Bostick and Vargas. If Bostick doesn’t pan out that was is going to suck worse than the Bell trade.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good sense of humor too

Says his stats are better during the day because hitters are hung over

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burgos

He had a much bigger upside than Bannister, and got hurt. That shit happens in baseball.

My theory is that the front office had a stat geek who told Minaya to make those deals (and the Benson trade), but then the Wilpons found out he produced a rap album, and he was fired. ;-)

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just paid my cable bill online

I think this sucks EVEN MORE when I’m simultaneously using my cable to watch the Mets lose

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can the Mets get Scott Brosius?

He hit a memorable bomb off Hoffman, and he’d fit in well on this team.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that too

but mostly because he’s a proven winner, like Tatis and Nunez, or something.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Err

If Chavez gets on, apparently. So, probably not then.

by Eric Simon on Jun 7, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he is our PH option?

Willie’s saving Castro, apparently

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why did Castro return to this team?

Couldn’t he have gotten into 100 games with a team that knows what the fuck it’s doing, like Cleveland?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe

the clubhouse dynamics are just superb

by JohnPeterson on Jun 7, 2008 12:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did we just get him

from the Israeli baseball league? Is that league still around even?

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that team

had this little thing called “talent”. Also, the only washed-up vet was George Foster, who was released. You can’t release the entire team here, unfortunately.

Flushing, Queens: soon to be known as Johan's-burg!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 7, 2008 12:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh

the good ol days

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 7, 2008 12:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whohoo

A sorrier pair of 2-1 losses I never saw. Let’s go…. oh, forget it.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

i think i did good in the swag though

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 7, 2008 12:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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