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Open Thread - Game 61: Mets vs Padres

New York Mets at San Diego Padres, Jun 7, 2008 10:05 PM EDT



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez 4-4 12 12 0 0 0 0 60.0 55 43 38 11 43 50 5.70 1.63


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Cha Seung Baek 1-1 2 1 0 0 0 0 5.1 9 4 4 0 1 5 6.75 1.88

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No one scored any points last night?

Is that possible?

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 7, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Well the hell w/this.

No wonder the METS lose. No won shows up to play!

Not even on the damn blog!

Adios

...for tonight

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 7, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm hanging around

it’s saturday night and 2 hundred degrees in NYC. You’ll hvae to excuse those who are either watching this in air conditioning or out enjoying the night

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

has there been anything to discuss yet?

I am waiting until my team shows a sign of life before posting.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice play

Still, surely the bottom of this Mets order can somehow evade the danger of scoring a run here.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah Barrett had a brain freeze

they need put a hurting on this kid tonight

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm disgusted throughtly

with the handling of the Ryan Church situation

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

You shouldn’t be letting the concussed dude make the DL decision on his own. And Willie’s brain-dead pinch-hitting moves killed their flexibility.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

the Trainer is the medical profession. Plus Church had a concussion in Spring Training. An awful move that should honestly cost Ray Ramirez his job.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

what if the player is hurt

but he wants to play in Tom Glavine’s 300th win? It’s okay then right?

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least that was just a leg injury

Church could have to retire or be vegetable later in life because this stuff.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

because of this?

I’m not sure how far Church is from a smart vegetable already—the guy is not the brightest zucchini in the bushel to begin with.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

while this probably true

I would like the guy to be able to take advantage of his limited IQ after his baseball days are over. He might not be able to formulate anti-semetic statements if the Mets aren’t careful here.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Kiner line was great. The first time he the cutoff man all year. The Prince of Darkness was Keith nickname from Lupica.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and another one

“Keith should have told him he was left-handed, everyone knows Darryl can’t hit lefthanders”

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black? Any body home

What is the hell is Bud Black doing. You basically picked pitching to Reyes over Schneider. Wow.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a really dumb move

Head-scratching of an order beyond even Randolph’s occasional brainlock.

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Willie did this and it backfired

the papers would be firing up the cattle prods for his ass the next day.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

got away with it

still a dumb move though, period

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tatisarella

Fernando is that your glass slipper?

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

The more they talk about Church...

The dumber the Mets’ handling of the situation sounds.

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

can it sound more dumb than it is

Ryan Church should have been DL in Atlanta and sent to PSL to recuperate on the spot? Does anyone doubt this.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got his own problems

that Nats got shut out again and he’s naked in that lineup

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine his numbers are down mainly because he's facing more RHP this year

I still think he has a Moises Alou / Gary Sheffield career in front of him barring a disaster

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

his numbers

against righties aren’t bad, his lefty splits are horrible which is probably and abberation. May be pressing a bit. He’ll improve.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s naked in that lineup

Or he’s just not that good.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jun 7, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

great bat speed, hits a ton of line drives

K / W ratio is bad but that might improve with time. Or he could be out of baseball in five years, who knows

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

or 23 years old

but i’m not having that argument with you tonight.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good I’m tired. But it is good to see that you are keeping up with your beloved Lastings.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jun 7, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets just lay out what we're dealing with here

from the Mayo Clinic website

Postconcussion syndrome, a poorly understood complication, causes concussion symptoms to last for weeks or months. People who have had a concussion also double their risk of developing epilepsy within the first five years after the injury. There also is evidence that people who have had multiple concussions over the course of their lives suffer cumulative neurological damage. A link between concussions and the eventual development of Alzheimer’s disease also has been suggested.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Wiki on treatment
Usually concussion symptoms go away without treatment,[57] and no specific treatment exists.[58] About one percent of people who receive treatment for MTBI need surgery for a brain lesion.[47] Traditionally, concussion sufferers are prescribed rest,[58] including plenty of sleep at night plus rest during the day.[52] Health care providers recommend a gradual return to normal activities at a pace that does not cause symptoms to worsen.[52] Education about symptoms, how to manage them, and their normal time course can lead to an improved outcome

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

more good Wiki stuff
Cumulative effects of concussions are poorly understood. The severity of concussions and their symptoms may worsen with successive injuries, even if a subsequent injury occurs months or years after an initial one.[65] Symptoms may be more severe and changes in neurophysiology can occur with the third and subsequent concussions.[48] Studies have had conflicting findings on whether athletes have longer recovery times after repeat concussions and whether cumulative effects such as impairment in cognition and memory occur.[28]

Cumulative effects may include psychiatric disorders and loss of long-term memory. For example, the risk of developing clinical depression has been found to be significantly greater for retired football players with a history of three or more concussions than for those with no concussion history.[66] Three or more concussions is also associated with a five-fold greater chance of developing Alzheimer’s disease earlier and a three-fold greater chance of developing memory deficits

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well appearently

Willie doesn’t, he says “we don’t know very much about concussions in baseball” I guess they don’t get Internet in the Mets clubhouse.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 7, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can barely handle the double switch

and you want him to learn the Internet? He’s still calling tech support saying he can’t get the cup holder to close on his Packard Bell.

by Simons on Jun 7, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can name teams with better hitters than the Mets at the bottom of the order

Having Alou and Church out makes this worse than it otherwise would be, of course

by JoshNY on Jun 8, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

better doesn't mean good

so who gives a flying fuck about how good the bottom of our order is? the guys there are put there for a reason.

by gogomets on Jun 8, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

That doesn’t make any sense at all. I give a flying fuck how good the bottom of our order is because we’re not scoring any runs and if there were better hitters there, we might score more.

by JoshNY on Jun 8, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's the bottom of the order

do you want all-stars batting 7th and 8th or something? how much production are you expecting? the bottom of the order is bad? what a revelation! shitty hitters at the bottom of the order aren’t doing anything?! i’‘m blown away!

by gogomets on Jun 8, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

what has gotten into Delgado tonight? 3 for 3 with 2 B

by Endys Game on Jun 7, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

hey everybody.

another low scoring game, eh?

blargo.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 7, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

presumably this will end as a 2-1 loss

but we’ll have to think of a new way to score the winning Padre run. Perhaps a balk? Wild pitch? Umpiring error? Steal of home?

by anonymous on Jun 7, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe ala K-Rod

against the A’s a few years back.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 7, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got to give them credit

That’s some pretty decent looking tuna they’re using

by JoshNY on Jun 7, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i had waffles this evening for dinner

it’s the only thing that could bolster my lousy attitude about this oppressive heat and humidity in d.c.

wait a minute. hitting batters to load the bases? has that ever been done in baseball?

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 7, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've done it on "The Show".

but I don’t know if it’s ever been done in real life.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 8, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jayson Stark will be right on that

I think Ollie just wanted to reward the guys who picked the ‘under’ on 4.5 walks tonight

by Simons on Jun 8, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

funny about ollie

i got my money on Tim Kirkchan (sp) finding out about that stat

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

here's a thought

if the mets lose 2-1 tonight.

that’ll be three in a row to the same team on consecutive nights.

has that ever happened?

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably

but here’s your bases loaded hbp

On May 1, 1974, Pittsburgh pitcher Dock Ellis, believing that his team needed motivation, decided to hit every batter in the Cincinnati Reds lineup. Ellis hit Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Dan Driessen, tried to hit Tony Perez but ended up walking him, and threw two pitches at Johnny Bench’s head before he was removed from the game.

by Simons on Jun 8, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

oddly enough

the reds only scored one run in that inning

by Simons on Jun 8, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

simon...well done

that is one hell of a stat and one funny a$$ story.

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

um....

what the hell is going on.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 7, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

there ya go padres

now you know what it’s like to leave the bases and have nothing to show for it…

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

jeezy creezy.

nice pitching by Mr. Smith.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 8, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

is it me?

or does the team just seem like they’re going through the motions?

they don’t seem to put any effort into what they’re doing.

it’s as if they don’t give a damn

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

scott the "show" en-weis!

not bad “show”

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

“tens of people”

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jun 8, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

:-)

tens!

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm so tired, but...

i’ve just got to see if this will end in a 2-1 loss for the Mets

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

i guess everyone has gone to bed

or been put to sleep by the game…
asta manana gang.

WHAT IS PAST IS PROLOGUE

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 8, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

there we go.

How will they lose 2-1 tomorrow? Stay tuned…

by anonymous on Jun 8, 2008 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

mother-f

I literally just got home and the 3rd pitch is a walkoff.

Sorry guys, I shoulda just gone to bed…

by mmxii on Jun 8, 2008 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

its time I think

I thought he got a stay of execution last week and I was happy to give it to him. But this series and the Church fiasco seals it. Time to fire Willie.

by Endys Game on Jun 8, 2008 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

gar

Just saw the replay and with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, holding Wright at 3rd in the 3rd is a bad choice.

by mmxii on Jun 8, 2008 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

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