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Open Thread - Game 83: Mets vs Cardinals

New York Mets at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT



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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Todd Wellemeyer 7-2 15 15 0 0 0 0 88.1 77 36 34 11 28 68 3.46 1.19

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ugh

How much does Lohse sign for next year? Like 6 yrs, $60M?

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

it's what Johan uses

Has anybody tried that apothecary liniment? It sounds like a quack snake-oil.

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

weak sauce

that 1st inning sucked

more wasted base runners, just bad luck this time, though

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets Go Mets

I gots a feelin this will be a barnburner.

by citislicker on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

ye gods

the wild thing strikes like a cobra

I still like Armas more than Lima-time

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is Castro playing?

After all that was made out of how Schneider and Armas have been together for so long this seems like a strange time to start Castro

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

sit back and enjoy the cosmic absurdity

beaten with the bat by rick ankeil, a guy who could probably beat us from the mound.

the cardinals broadcasters think Church should have scored on the Delgado hit, but the camera showed him trotting admiring the possible homerun. I tend to agree with them. It didn’t end up mattering, but when oh when will the Mets stress the fundies?

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

HEAD!

sleepy HEAD Castro defies the odds and ties it up. A ballgame!

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

hip-pow!

This wellemeyer can’t dodge bullets forever.

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

How's Armas look?

Saw he gave up a homerun to the Wild Man int he first.

by Eric Simon on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't think he looks so bad

painting some corners i’d say

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Church on Tuesday.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Hippo is making the most of his one game this week.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He probably should be playing more

But that would mean admitting that Milledge was traded for a platoon catcher.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The better Church hits

The more the Mets can get away with playing Castro

by JoshNY on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give Omar credit for one thing

He’s picked up some pretty good (or at least serviceable) throw ins in trades. Church, Maine, and Perez were not the main players involved.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

now might be the time you that

considering Lasto is on the DL now so no one might notice.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

more!

they say hippos kill more people than lions in the wild.

by mmxii on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. I'm having 2006 flashbacks.

Break up the Mets!

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Jul 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

what is the theory there?

that’s the second time a met outfielder caught a foul ball thus letting a run score.arguments pro and con?
I was under the impression the object was to keep the opposition from scoring.

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

up four runs in the 6th its a no brainer

you want to reduce the number of outs the Cards have their. The only time it makes sense to drop the ball is in those situation where you would play the infield in.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are the pros

what if the hitter is weak and the foul is strike two? what if your team gives up leads all the time? it may not be a no brainer all the time.

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

why you drop the ball when you were conceding the run

you’ve basically decided that you were content to concede the run with an out. So why would you be not content.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a no brainer most of the time

If it were the tying or go ahead run late in a game it may be worth dropping. Or maybe if it were just a runner on third. But in this case, with 1st and 3rd and no outs, it’s not worth the possibility of a big inning. Even if you drop the ball and the batter hits into a DP the run still scores. There is too much risk.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm more interested in the man on third situation late in the game

i don’t remember the exact situation last time, but i think it was Nixon and his weak shirley arm in left.

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

managers risk unorthodox moves occasionally. it is possible that you get some other kind of less costly out when the batter is given a “second chance” right?

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

Do you guys figure the outfielders are instructed by the dugout on what to do? Do they make the decision on their own? Do they just plain always catch it without thinking about the run?

by JoshNY on Jul 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i always imagine that the grass is greener on the other side

and other teams position their players, etc better than the Mets.

I also imagine that in the less routine plays they have to make their own decisions, akin to baserunners not always being directed by the coaches.

I.M. Forme

by itsmetsforme on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt most teams cover this

maybe a LaRussa’s, Sococia and Leylands might mention it.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

another maple bat break

into the stands. An issue bears watching.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sold on it

That is to say, I’m not sold on whether the issue is maple bats per se, versus current bat design with the extremely thin handles.

by JoshNY on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I have my doubts too

but it’s something to think about for sure.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

MLB has enough money that they should look into it in any case

by JoshNY on Jul 1, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhh crap

Fucking Yadier Molina, why is it always fucking Yadier Molina?

by JoshNY on Jul 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Over/Under

On the number of decent starts Armas has before he goes the way of Sosa, Vargas, Figueroa, Williams, and Lawrence

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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