Randolph to Be Steinbrenner’s All-Star Guest

I find it very hard to believe that embarassing the Mets is not a motivating factor behind this.

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Embarrassing

What’s embarrassing? “Hey look, I invited your shitty, emotionless stump of an ex-manager to attend the All-Star game!”

Godspeed, I say.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 4:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Jeeze, Eric

I never thought of you as a Randolph hater. I believe I was on the get-rid-of-Randolph wagon when it wasn’t very crowded, but “shitty, emotionless stump”? That’s pretty harsh.

As for Steinbrenner, typical, petty move by him. Tom Boswell normally kisses the Lerner’s asses, but today he plants a big wet one on the Boss’s rear.

by TomDC on Jul 16, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up 0 recs

Well, I meant it in the kindest way possible

I think that generally sums up my opinion of managers in general, so I don’t mean to single out Randolph. Managers are only marginally more useful than pine tar, I think. They’re both nice to have and they usually keep things from spinning out of control, but if you had to you could probably get on without either.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Agree

They get way too much credit when the team loses and especially when the team wins. (How’s the great Joe Torre doing with those Dodgers?)

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jul 16, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

I always thought...

...he was a stooge. Like Kenny Rogers in ‘99, sent by the devil to ruin our lives.

by IanB in MD on Jul 15, 2008 4:49 PM EDT 0 recs

don't care

i’ll only be watching hamilton’s and wright’s at bats. no way am i sitting through 3 hours of yankee fellating by fox.

by gogomets on Jul 15, 2008 5:06 PM EDT 0 recs

yes

the yankee fellatio at the HR derby was already too much to handle. game will be on mute and i will lift my head up from the ex machina paperback i just got only for wright and maybe hammytone.

by kendynamo on Jul 15, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

since we're pretty much on the same page

do you have a nice stash of amstel/foster’s to drink during the game?

by gogomets on Jul 15, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

hah, i wish

no booze for me on this school night. although i seriously considered it many times last night.

by kendynamo on Jul 16, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up 0 recs

a bit harsh

but I agree with the sentiment. We have won 9 in a row and Manuel certainly gets some credit. The only one who looks embarrasing here is Willie. And Yanks better worry about their own team more, its pretty dreadful right now.

by Endys Game on Jul 15, 2008 5:08 PM EDT 0 recs

we've won 1 more game than they have...

does that mean we’re slightly above dreadful?

by gogomets on Jul 15, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

Manuel

I’m glad Willie is gone, but I’m not sure that I agree that Manuel gets a whole lot (if any) credit. Before this streak the Mets were just as mediocre under him as they were under Willie. And, not too be too much of a downer, but this streak has relied primarily on the pitching shutting down some bad offenses in a good pitchers park. If anything I think Dan Warthen deserves more credit since both Ollie and Pelf have seemed to settled down.
I know the players have said it’s a more relaxed atmosphere under Manuel and maybe they are playing better because of that. But Jerry does a lot of things that make me scratch my stomach churn.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 15, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hear, hear

Three cheers for Warthen. Who would have guessed that Peterson was part of the problem. Not I.

by TomDC on Jul 16, 2008 8:43 AM EDT up 0 recs

I agree

The sentiment that I meant to express may have been clearer if I had phrased it as “an attempt to embarass thd Mets.” I did not mean to suggest that the Mets have any reason to be embarassed.

by Shomov on Jul 15, 2008 5:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Randolph

On a related note, between this and his missives to the paper, has any manager or coach handled being fired worse than Willie has?

by Endys Game on Jul 15, 2008 5:31 PM EDT 0 recs

I have to imagine Lou Piniella probably broke shit

by JoshNY on Jul 15, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

Mets vs. Yankees

The Mets are 1/2 a game out of 1st. The Yankees are in 3rd, 6 games out of 1st, 5.5 out of the wild card, and they’re only that close because Tampa Bay went on a 7-game losing streak.

Who gives a flying fuck what Steinbrenner does? The Mets are winning without Randolph. We should be glad he’s with the senile old bastard and not in the Mets clubhouse anymore.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 16, 2008 9:07 AM EDT 0 recs

Overnight,

this article has morped from a fairly straightforward report on Randolph being a guest of the Steinbrenners at the game to fawning piece on Randolph and the “Yankee way” and an attack on Beltran and Delgado.

Oh yeah, I forgot, the Yankees have won championships because they don’t allow music in the clubhouse, deplore facial hair and would love nothing more than to turn the clock back to 1950. The people who run this team must put themselves to sleep at night listening to Pat Buchanan’s culture war speach from the 1992 Republican convention.

I love how the Steinbrenner family continues the charade of attributing decisions to George in the press; the guy can no longer tie his shoes.

by Shomov on Jul 16, 2008 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs

WTF is Rhoden talking about here?

In the days after Randolph’s firing, some Mets veterans, most notably reliever Billy Wagner, implied that Randolph was never a true Met, whatever that might mean. In the end Wagner implied that Randolph was too much of a Yankee, someone who tried to introduce his version of a championship mentality to a team of veterans, most of whom had never tasted World Series success.
Wagner certainly hasn’t. Nor has Carlos Delgado, or Carlos Beltrán.

Of course he provides no actual quotes from Wagner. Note that he uses the work “implied” twice in as many sentences. “True Met”? Has anyone seen anything that Wagner said that sounds anything like that?

This story reads like a kneecap job on the Mets. He attacks the players for the firing of the manager. What an ass.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 16, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up 0 recs

plus, also, too

Compare Wagner’s way, with his off-the-cuff comments, and Delgado’s way, which sometimes makes him appear aloof, with Randolph’s way. Who has the most championships?
In retrospect, managing the Mets must have been frustrating for Randolph as he tried to get a mostly veteran Mets team to play with a championship mentality, to respond with toughness when the situation demanded it. When the Mets went into a free fall late last season, where was Wagner? Delgado? Beltrán? Presumably doing it the Mets’ way.

Out comes the old straw-man argument of who has “rings.” I must have forgot that Willie single-handedly won six World Series titles. I mean, if he wasn’t on the roster, none of those teams would have contended.

And for the record, here’s what Beltran did when the Mets collapsed in September: 110 at-bats, 22 runs, 8 homers, 27 RBIs, 5 steals, .882 OPS.

Here’s what Wagner did when the Mets collapsed in September: 10 games, 10 innings pitched, 5 for 6 in save opportunities, 8 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 1 home run, 2 walks, 9 strikeouts, 1.00 WHIP, .342 SLG against, .250 OBP against, .211 AVG against, 3.60 ERA, 8.10 K/9.

And Delgado only played in half the games in September because he was injured.

Obviously, the team lost all those games because those three guys were playing “the Mets’ way.” What a fool William C. Rhoden is.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 16, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up 0 recs