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2008 All Star Game Open Thread

This time it counts. Or something. Ben Sheets versus Cliff Lee in this crummy after dinner mint to last night's homerun derby main course. Anyone else rooting for a tie?

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he was never svelte, but Tony Gwynn should really hit up a salad bar now and then.

by mmxii on Jul 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Or perhaps ...

A humble homage to RBI and Burger king, Cecil Fielder.

by citislicker on Jul 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the funny things about Tony Gwynn's post-retirement weight gain?

His little high-pitched voice sounds even sillier coming out of him now.

by JoshNY on Jul 15, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh say can you seee.....

the beginning of this game? Because I can’t.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jul 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

missing HOF ers

where the heck was Seaver and Bench?

by Grouchoman on Jul 15, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AH! THE DEVIL!

Oh wait, it’s just Joe Buck.

So it is the devil.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jul 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but he's such a gifted story-teller

we should all consider ourselves blessed that he’ll be calling every big game for the next 20 years.

by mmxii on Jul 15, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Yogi

Has to share the booth with Tim and Joe

by JoshNY on Jul 15, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter is so, gasp!, UNclutch

Sorry for the schadenfreude, but I was thrilled to see Jeter hit into the 6-4-3 double play.

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Puljos.

Plus he was safe.

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jul 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Move.

Let’s go NL!

EAMUS METROPOLI!

by pingel on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim Lincecum, out with flu-like symptoms

That’s the old baseball euphemism for “hangover.” Hahaha.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 15, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow!

Check out those Yankee fans cheering on Drew!

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love the fact that FLAPPINGUMS (papelbon)

just gave up a run to the NL. I love it! Boo the $hit out of him!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 15, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah Jesus, Billy.

You just needed one out.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 15, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McCarver misses the obvious, AGAIN.

Russell Martin comes out of his crouch during the stolen-base attempt, thereby blocking the ump’s call of what appeared to be strike three. (Jeez Louise, if you have no intention of throwing the ball, Ricky Martin, then stay where you are!) Catcher extraordinaire McCarver has no comment.

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

still...

I was surprised that Wagner didn’t go high fastball on 3-2 against the rookie.

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

question

If the NL pushes a run across this inning, does Rodriguez get lifted for Rivera?

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Deadspin blogger...

pointed out before the AL tied the score that Billy had given up three runs in his last two ASG innings. Better make it four in two and a third.

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Ryan Dempster strikes out the side. Here I am thinking, “So they’ve got the best closer in the history of the sport and we’ve got… Ryan Dempster?”

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, it counts!

So why was the AL out of position players in the eighth inning?

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God damn

Russell Martin is a really nice hitter. He’s no Brian Schneider, but still a nice hitter.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah

I was about to talk shit about Miguel Tejada and about how Jose Reyes should’ve been up. Guess I’ll just shut my piehole.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMF

Dan Uggla is a slow motherfucker.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my shit

Uggla is the goddamn worst fucking player I’ve ever seen.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just an editor's note here

Someone reading this after the fact might think we’re complaining about a single thing Uggla did. In fact, it was three terrible things.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

He fell down? Words can’t begin to describe the suck that is Dan Uggla.

by Eric Simon on Jul 15, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, I know...

But tomorrow morning I will feel bad for him.

by JE on Jul 15, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel bad for him, too

I also feel bad for whichever NL team has to go down 2-0 against the Red Sox at Fenway in the 2008 World Series.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, guys

This isn’t the Yankee Stadium Commemorative Game, it’s the All-Star Game. Stop talking about the fucking stadium.

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, though...

If the run comes in here, please tell me that Sizemore or Drew gets MVP and NOT Rivera!!!

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

Could Uggla have been slower to the plate there?

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UGGLA!!!

What a spectacular play!

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI

Aaron Cook is a groundball machine. Second in the NL to Brandon Webb.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guzman is playing 3rd and Wright is out of the game?

Is Hurdle actually trying to win? I’m not sure.

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wright's the DH

Pinch-hit for Pujols. Guzman ran for Ramirez.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

Still stupid not to have him in the field

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to believe...

that his bloated contract with the Nats is almost done. Four years and $15 million. Kasten is brilliant, but Bowden is an ass.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullshit

Are you serious???

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!

Aaron Cook is G-d!

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shhhh

Don’t let Josh Hamilton hear you.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woot

Nice base knock, Dante from Clerks.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hehehe

Did that shot of Selig remind you of Eli Wallach’s character (Altebello?) in GF3?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've seen more than enough of Guzman...

both at RFK and now at Nats Park. Can someone please put him out to pasture?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, OK...

If we’re gonna have a Bobby Murcer tribute, how about chatting up Tony Snow and that heart doctor too…?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Missed the tag

But it still counts, I guess.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, McCarver...

Cook and Martin have a sign indicating a pitch-out.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow

I was sure that was it.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You forgot who was chugging around third...

Navarro looked like Rusty Staub on that play.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

papelbon's wife threatened at parade

Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon blamed the New York media for creating a firestorm that resulted in his pregnant wife being threatened on Tuesday.

Papelbon

MLB.com reported that during a red carpet parade for the All-Star Game that went down Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, Papelbon and his wife Ashley were bombarded by insults from fans.

“I feel like I needed to be in a bullet-proof car,” Papelbon said, according to the Web site. “My wife is pregnant and she’s getting her life threatened. It’s stupid.”

Papelbon had said that he would welcome closing out the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium even though its the home field of Mariano Rivera.

“I’ve said from the very beginning, since two days ago, and talked to Tito [Red Sox manager Terry Francona] about it, I said, ‘I want Mariano to close.’ I understand what it’s about to pay your dues in this game and what it’s about to put in your time,” Papelbon said, according to the Web site. “If you were to ask me, of course I wanted to close. That’s my competitive nature.”

Papelbon said he was shocked when he saw a New York Daily News headline that read “PAPELBUM! Red Sox reliever says he, not Mariano, should close tonight’s All-Star Game.”

“That was an easy headline for that [newspaper] to say, ‘Yeah, Papelbon said he wants to close.’ Yeah, of course I do,” Papelbon said, according to the site. “That’s my competitive nature. But I’m stepping away and saying I don’t need to close.”

Papelbon told MLB.com that he was so disturbed by the parade incident that he didn’t even care if he pitched on Tuesday.

“Your family gets involved like that and you’re trying to enjoy an experience with your family, and you have a wife who’s pregnant who doesn’t feel safe riding in a red-carpet event, you know what I mean? How would you feel?” Papelbon said, according to MLB.com.

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe

As likely, he knows he can stretch Cook without getting heat from another manager

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a groundball machine

He’s not overpowering, but he doesn’t walk many, doesn’t allow many homeruns.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Pirates!

Great hustle by McClouth!

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woot

Gotta love McLouth. That’s the kind of hustle that makes Tim McCarver swoon.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

f-ck the heck?!?

Did McCarver just make a dopey football analogy?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm on mute

But I’m gonna say “yes”.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd and 3rd...

please don’t waste it!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uggla with a chance to redeem himself

I’m giving 5:4 that he hits into another double-play.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strikeout

That was the best case scenario, I think.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One's gotta wonder...

if Francona has it in for Kazmir. He’s now the only player left standing. Joe Maddon can’t be smiling right now.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

overall...

isn’t this fitting that the game is this dramatic in the last year of yankee stadium?

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't want to use Webb

Not sure why you wouldn’t go to Lidge though

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Was that nearly error no. 3?!?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's a question?

Does the 2am American League curfew come into play here?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i could use a...

double half/calf, iced machiatto, slim, w/a lowfat, non trans fat rasberry scone.

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woot!

Davey avoids the triple-k.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please...

stop w/the maple bats

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Guzman

fucking waste of an out

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is yankee stadium still packed?

i can only listen.

DAMMIT GUZMAN!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

one-third full, at most

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...

Is there a 2am curfew?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and another question...

Did anyone notice that the Bobby Murcer tribute took place in the 11th inning? (H/T Deadspin) What if the game hadn’t gone into extras? That’s kind of bizarre….

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GET YOUR BUTT DOWN

Simple fundamentals, get in front of the ball.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan Ugly for ASG LVP

Bet Hurdle wishes he still had Utley

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for god sakes!

uggla…shoot yourself!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a bad hop

Not gonna kill him for that one. The other nine gaffes, okay.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no love from me man

HE’S AN ALL STAR!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a major league player

they make those plays. it went right into his chest and he still bungled it. bleh.

by gogomets on Jul 16, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL is safe

The AL is close to running out of pitchers.

There better not be a tie.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i say...

if the game doesn’t end in the bottom of the 12th, the commisioner chooses a fan from the stands to pitch to the DH in a home run derby style shoot em out!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit McLouth

You effing tease. I just want it to be over, dammit.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i bet...

joe buck has to keep nudging tim mccarver from going to sleep.

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I had to sit next to Joe Buck drone on for fourteen innings

in that horrible monotone voice of his I’d fall asleep, too.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

He’s thoroughly excited about this high-powered game.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, do you think if he's feeling better...

Lincecum could come back to the Stadium and pitch to a few batters…? ;-)

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

But I bet Johan could.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

give him some robutussin and tell his ass to COWBOY UP!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't Francona

re-insert pitchers who’ve thrown less than 3 innings? I remember they discussed this after the debacle in Milwaukee. God knows he can’t keep Kazmir in there very long. Did they ever make a rule for allowing for this?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds familiar

Don’t know if it’s true.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

Wagner would end this thing real quick. But not in a way that would please us.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

Volquez is the only NL starter who didn’t throw 2 innings. That’s what you get for choosing so many closers, Clint.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know!

The players association is doing this on purpose to get rid of the “it counts” bullshit! mmhmm…

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ohhhhh!

conspiracy theory! i like it!

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn’t surprise me too much. It needs to go, anyway.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calling it: DWright Homer off Kazmir...

while the heads of Mets fans nationwide explode.

by SQUAD on Jul 16, 2008 1:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh man!

the rays blog would literally melt

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Uggla is goddamn useless.

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's even worse

i just traded for him in my fantasy baseball league.

i guarantee he stinks it up for the rest of the year…great

"DUDE..."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't you glad

this game doesn’t really count? He’d kill your whole week.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uggla

Man, it is just not that dude’s night, is it?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuggla

He’s not going to show his face in New York ever again. How on Earth can you live this night down?

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Inevitable.

Lazy, too. At least Victor Zambrano’s not in this, just to twist the knife a little deeper.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game counts!!!!

So much so that half the stadium is empty. I love it!

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 16, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Almost at my limit, too.

I’ve been late enough the past couple weeks. And I can’t blame this one on the MTA

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For the reference...

In 702.2 innings this season, Uggla has a grand total of 6 errors.

To go with his 3 errors today, he’s been 0-4 with 3 Ks, 6 men LOB. That’s awesome.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much.

Man, Bud’s got to be sweating bullets right now. The man cannot afford another tie.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t even know there was a 2am curfew. So they can’t start a new inning after that?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the good ol' days, back when there were league presidents...

I remember that the NL had no curfew, but the AL halted games at 2am.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I think they couldn’t start a new inning after that. The game would be suspended.

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point

We want, NEED the tie so we can get rid of this “it counts” bull.

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the difference between the AL and NL:

NL Closers: Wilson, Wagner, Lidge,
AL Closers: Nathan, Papelbon, Rivera

by SQUAD on Jul 16, 2008 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lidge is a bum

Where’s Aaron Cook when you need him?

by Eric Simon on Jul 16, 2008 1:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston fans must be lovin'...

that Wagner and Lidge are up to their old selves….

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New rule-Jeter should be allowed to re-enter the games

Since he is the clutchiest clutcher in all of clutchball he should come in to end the game. His calm eyes and steely demeanor will end the game.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 16, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IT’S OVER!!!!!!

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And once again...

The WS home field advantage thing is fuck stupid

by JoshNY on Jul 16, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aren't we thrilled...

that Corey Hart got to play in this year’s game? what a tool…

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking disgusting.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jul 16, 2008 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Us.

For having watched the wretched excuse for an All-Star Game. All the way through

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Now let’s stay tuned for our late local news….

by JE on Jul 16, 2008 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw that

I’m going to bed. Why did I stay up to watch this game, again?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 16, 2008 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We needed a tie

Oh, and the last man voted in had himself a fine game as well, 0-3, 1 K and 3 LOB and a weak ass throw in the “clutch.”

by BlackOps on Jul 16, 2008 1:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The guy who finished second

Ended up on base twice at least.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jul 16, 2008 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just like to point out that

At the end of a game that “counts”, the NL lineup included: Christian Guzman, Nate McLouth, Ryan Ludwick, Cory Hart, and Brian McCann.

Maybe they should rename the the game the “All-currently playing the majors” game.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 16, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

That wasn’t meant to disparage the players. It was an indictment of how players are used in a game that now matters for some teams. If MLB insists on keeping this stupid format then the directive to managers should be to manage to win and not just try to get everyone in the game.

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 16, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Of the players who were in at the end of the game 8 of the 10 AL players are on potential playoff teams. Only 5 of 10 NL players are on potential playoff teams. It’s ridiculous that the fate of home field in the World Series is being determined by players (and a manager) with nothing at stake.

But I’m probably preaching to the choir here.

I’m using over .500 or within 6 games of the division or wild card as a cutoff

by Reg Dunlop on Jul 16, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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