Open Thread - Game 98: Mets vs Reds
by Alex Nelson on Jul 19, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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New York Mets at Cincinnati Reds, Jul 19, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Endy Hitting Second
drives me crazy. Why is it a common practice for MLB managers to hit the worst hitter in the lineup second?
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because
If, for some reason, he happens to get on base, he has good speed.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Running Fast
doesn’t justify hitting him second. You want to bunch your good hitters together. Additionally, since the second hitter is likely to get one more at bat than someone hitting down in the order, you should give that extra at bat to someone who is likely to do something with it..
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know
I was being sarcastic. It really is baffling why Endy and Marlon keep being put there. Why not Tatis or Easley?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Bad
I realize that my post came across as pedantic.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a problem
Sarcasm is untraceable on the Internet.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
SNY just referred to Uggla as the AL MVP of the All Star game.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies Lose
should have been the title of the previous post.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is ridiculous
Let’s get the game going, for God’s sake.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larkin
turned down a trade to the Mets in the middle of the 2000 season
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah and Phillips went out and got Bordick
For Melvin Mora instead. An underrated shitty trade.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’m not sure why that trade does not get more press as a really bad deadline deal.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cause we went to the World series that year
but it still was a terrible deal
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillips made that trade
and Abbot ended up starting the final game of the World Series; I am sure that wasn’t what he envisioned.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Bordick catches my ire
for not being able to make a play on the Sojo ball.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually that was Abbott
but still Bordick was useless.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He homered
in his first at bat as a Met and I was fooled into thinking that he would be useful.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that
Weren’t we all.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free Castro
Where’s Castro? I’m going to make this my cause for the rest of the year. Free Castro.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep wondering whether he's hurt or not
Apparently Jerry is afraid of him, too.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hooray for mistakes!
To Err Is Human, To Forgive Is A Mets Fan.
by pingel on Jul 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s a ball that Fogg should have caught.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schneider sucks
And Beltran makes players throw the ball away with his grit and intangibles.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
preachin' to the choir
I’ve been howling about that for a year and a half. At least Manuel plays Castro more than Randolph did.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commercial
If I have to watch this commercial about how Jeter has “an edge” one more time, I’m gonna break the fuckin television.
by Shomov on Jul 19, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Ford
paid for the spots in advance so their still trying to get people to by a an SUV in $4+ gas.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's why
their stock price is in the toilet (GM too).
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything beats Giuseppe
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giving up on the young pitchers
I wonder if the Phillies would like a do over on dumping Gavin Floyd.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not sold on Floyd
His K/BB rate isn’t that great. He might be getting lucky a la Brian Bannister last year.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than Blanton though
right now at least
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Bruce
someone wash his mouth out with soap.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beltran
That won’t end up on Carlos personal highlight reel. He should of caught it and misplayed the bounce. Even the best have low moments.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DUB!!!
Methinks it’s time for him to go on a huge streak.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who would be shocked if we've seen
the last of Ryan Church for 2008. I wouldn’t be at this point.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it would suck
but it wouldn’t surprise me either.
Also, Beltran sucks. Real clutch hitters find a way to not hit their 4th inning screaming line drives right at the first baseman.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it would suck
but it’s a screaming indictment of how poorly they handled this.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
take a close look at Fogg
you may be looking at the dumbest looking guy in the big leagues. He also looks like Curt Shilling.
Love to see a staring contest between Fogg and Dunn.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously look--he's goofier than hell
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey i know this guy
it’s the bad ollie!
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's baaaack!
The fifth-inning meltdown has come an inning early.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit
In the name of all that which does not suck, please get some Ks, Oliver!
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't bring me down...
brrrrrUce!
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Easley catches it and Wally Bell
calls it no catch.
as a consumer of baseball, i am fed up with these bad calls against the Mets. Over and over again.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Easley
i was expecting Bell to call the runner safe when Easley caught that. Not funny if i have to explain it. Not funny by any measure. Ump rage clouds my judgement
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willie wouldn't have argued that
He would have stood in the dugout with that stoic (re: idiotic) look on his face.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 19, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true
but not like the umps ever want to get it right anyway.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no accountability
like every other facet of American life.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These umps are fucking retarded
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was Easley safe at first.
Another bad call.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this was the scene in the umpires lounge before the game
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm watching it under protest
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we PH Castro for Chavez?
No? Oh, ok.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would have rather him bat for Scheinder
Now he’s an easy double play mark.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello exact situation mets fans should hope for
David Wright witht he bases loader
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aw damnit, he Beltraned it
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then Beltran did
We’re paying them a lot of money to stand there watching this game go to hell.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is all very beltrany
its a noun its a verb its an adjective
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF, Wright?
Why?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mets are back to the basics again.
These are the Mets I remember.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 19, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah its like 2008 all over again
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was really beltrany
this whole game is beltrany
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game will bring the Beltran haters out in force.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's fault is that?
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
by ZaBlanc on Jul 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my proposal:
Trade him to the Yankees for Melky and cash considerations. Maybe the Melkman can get a hit with 2 outs.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not weighing in on your proposal but
i do like “the Melkman” nickname
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this game sucks
after that inspiring first game come back, i really expected something out of this team. instead they seem to have reverted to being Willie’s wankers. Mediocre pitching, butcherboy fielding and anticlutch hitting. Argenis and Fernando can’t do it by themselves!
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Co-signatre
This really bites.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just want to say to all the Heilman apologists
i don’t care if he is a second half pitcher, i tired of him long ago (in st louis playoffs) and won’t shed any tears when he takes his penchant for pivotal suckiness to go be a mediocre starter on some other team. I don’t know if there really are any Heilman lovers, but I just want to vent.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro 2 was the one that let the cat out of the bag tonight though
five hitters one retired not good.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can John Hershbeck the umpire
take a vacation…DURING the baseball season?
fuck the heck?
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
helps to work for a major pro
org.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pro org? I still don't understand
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've just never knew an ump could take a vacation smack dab in the middle of the season
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes they can
they have a stable of vacation guys to fill in for them. It makes sense, their people too, and while they get paid well they don’t have a stable assistants to help them players and they do have lives to attend to. Plus the travel is brutal and they don’t get built in off days like players.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would make sense for them to take it so it overlaps the All-Star break
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but what about the ENTIRE winter?
i’m not anti-labor or anything, i just thought this a bit strange.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 19, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus baseball is every day
the other sports get days off by virtue of the fact they don’t play every day. An NBA official might work 4 games a week and NFL official works 1 game a week.
by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was painful
If we get a 2-1 lead early tomorrow, I’ll know we’re doomed.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by Prince on Jul 19, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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