Open Thread - Game 108: Mets vs Marlins
by Eric Simon on Jul 30, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
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Damn
And here I was, about to recite the lyrics. Oh well. At least SNY can’t steal this poll from us, right?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's Go Mets
But really I’m cheering for my swag contest prediction (which is a secret!) to come true because I want to win a life-sized stuffed Mr. Met doll. I just know that Eric has one!
Yankees got Pudge?
And all they gave up was Farnsworth? Holy shit.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Reyes & Reyes
Either a personal injury law firm, or a very good 1-2 punch.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
2 groundouts and a K
Yep, he’s looking mighty good these days.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 30, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Got home in time to see Pelfrey in the first
Big Pelf does, indeed, look pretty alright.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
Marlon
How much longer is Jerry going to keep hoping Marlon gets it together? We’re in a tight race here.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Till Omar gets the perfect trade
Marlon Anderson for a ham sandwich, a bag of kettle chips and a Dr. Brown’s root beer.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmmm
Doc Brown’s. Make it a case, and that’s a deal
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll even throw in Schneider
For a piece of crumbcake.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Crumbcake?
I’ll hold out for an apple pie.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I was tempted
to type a post about how Schneider suck, too, in the hopes he’d get a hit too. Next time.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he did just make a sweet tag on Uggla.
Maybe there’s something to this, after all.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
Do we really need Schneider and Anderson in the same lineup?
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No team does
unless they’re trying to lose.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
oooh
Uggla made an awful slide, and he was out. Mets got a break.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
Everytime I watch this guy play, he fucks up
I am Dan Uggla’s kryptonite.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Uggla
Can’t field, can’t hit, and now it appears he can’t run home, either. Enjoy, Marlins fans!
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
can't hit?
I’d take a .567 SLG any day of the week.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but did you see the All-Star Game?
See below
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
DUDE
He’s THIRD in the LEAGUE in FIELDING PERCENTAGE!
by JohnPeterson on Jul 30, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Us New Yorkers just don't understand.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we use this thread as an open trade discussion forum?
I’m worried the Marlins’ possible acquisition of Manny Ramirez might make Omar send Niese to the Mariners for RAúúúúúúúúúúúúúúl Ibañez.
You really think he'd be that desperate?
The Marlins have problems that Manny not only won’t cure, but actively exacerbate. That’s not the kind of veteran you bring on to a team loaded with young players.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
send Omar an e-mail
with the Marlins RS/RA that shows that, barring incredible luck, they will be out of this by September.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Mets make estimations of teams based on run differential.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 30, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if anyone does
except the A’s and maybe the Red Sox.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
what's funny
is that based on run differential, the Braves and Marlins should have each other’s record.
Of course, the Braves are now finished with Hudson and Larry Wayne hurt and Teixeira playing in Disneyland.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when that happens
the line drive DP.
Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!
by Greenpoint Ian on Jul 30, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Nice, uh, defense there Fernando.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, it's a good thing we started our
‘ground ball pitcher’ outfield, eh?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said it before . . .
and i’ll say it again – I can hate a man named ‘Cody’.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
Comic Relief
LaTroy Hawkins traded to Astros
Yea, Ed Wade. You’re just one OK reliever away from the playoffs.
Well, at least the rain's starting
With any luck, it’ll get too wet to play
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
Well
It is almost the fifth inning . . .
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't allow umbrellas into Joe Robbie?
Don’t they get more rain at Marlins games than any other stadium in the majors? Did I miss a rational explanation for this?
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
This is out number two
Why waste all of our time by allowing Marlon Anderson to even bat? Just mark it an out and move on.
Anderson-Schneider-Pitcher
The opposing pitcher’s wet dream.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And here comes the opposing hitter's wet dream
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2008 NY Mets:
“The stuff that dreams are made of!”
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you
at least something tonight brought a smile to my face
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Please tell me he tweaked that hammy swinging
I really don’t want to have to steal the D’Agostino’s cart.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Getting out frustration
I’m sitting in front of the teevee knocking in my new cricket bat with a mallet. It feels good to be hitting something while watching the game tonight.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Beat on it!
Beat it good, brother!
But if your arm gets tired, or if you start to blister, switch arms.
If we do . . .
Omar will get on the phone after the game and give Seattle F-Mart, Niese, $8,000,000 and a Diamond Club suite at CitiField for next year in exchange for Jose Guillen. Then I will cry.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops
It’s been a long day. I need an editor.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
pelfey
was due for a bad game, but I have my doubts if we can make do with Tatis and Endy/Marlon for rest of season. I think Omar is going to make some move
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Agreed
On all counts. Tatis is smoking hot and I have no problem with Jerry riding him until he turns back into a pumpkin. Endy is a fine defensive replacement and Marlon Anderson, well, his mom sure thinks highly of him.
Don't be so sure about that
She may have seen him play this year
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed it
What was the question?
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say gooden too
HEre’s another: what HOF pitcher who is predominately a starter was the most recent to make his major league debut
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you might be suprised with the answer
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I'm thinking either
Nolan Ryan or Tom Seaver. Can’t remember who came up first.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you're very warm
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final answer
ok you’re right. I was amazed by this. The next starter to go in will probably be Clemens and he started in 1984 so that means that no starter will have made the HOF who started in bigs between 1967-1984
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Probably won't be Clemens
Not after the whole McNamee affair. And the actual affairs
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will and
should get in. If he doesn’t than the next guy in hasn’t even retired yet-Glavine, Maddux, Johnson, Martinez, Smoltz?
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That's assuming that
Morris and Blyleven never garner enough support. Bert should, but won’t. Jack shouldn’t, but might. And for the record, I think the whole steroids thing taints Clemens far too much. Personally, I think there’s too much of a cloud around him to allow him in.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Morris deserves to be in
more than Blyleven. I think he won more games in the 1980s than anybody and how about Game 7 performance against the Braves.
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“most wins in the 1980s” is an arbitrary time delimiter added on top of the act that wins are a poor way to measure a pitcher’s performance
excuse me
I’m sorry I picked he wrong time delimiter. I thought this was baseball, not quantum physics
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excuse me
I’m sorry I used a long word. “time period” if you prefer. The point is it’s arbitrary. Why is that more important than who had the most wins from 1983 to 1993?
Not so much arbitrary
as it is convenient. And yeah, Game 7 was a hell of a performance by Morris, but it’s just one game. You might as well cite his 16 Opening Day starts.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what
you meant. I was commenting on your pompousity
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It was your way with words Josh
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never mind
forget it
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Predominantly
I’m assuming this is to discount Dennis Eckersley, though Eck threw many more innings as a starter than a reliever.
The fact that we're going that far back
is both a damning indictment of pitchers from the ‘70s and 80s, and a testament to the longevity of those who really were great.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Last Mets pitcher under 25 to win seven straight
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
Johnson
looks great and Anibal Sanchez is coming back. Could it be 2003 all over again. Maybe not, but Marlins aren’t going away so fast
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Another hit for Marlon
You know what they say about blind squirrels and acorns
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Well, then
that makes things a little more interesting . . . EASLEY!
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
And credit where it's due:
Those 2 innings from Muniz look pretty great right now. A nice surprise from him.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
The hell is going on?
Muniz throws 2 quality innings, black is white, up is down, war is peace!!
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that woke everybody up
no more trivia questions we have a game. Easley is ok as starter but I woud rather see him coming off the bench and let Reyes play second and send Castillo home.
Save America. Impeach Bush
The Mets have had so many viable second basemen
but they’ve always made the wrong decisions about them.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 30, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
For a second there I thought you meant Jose Reyes. I was trying to figure out who was playing short.
I gasp every time a ball is hit to Marlon.
You know, I am never going to embiggen us all with my game thread contributions. I can’t see it happening.
I was thinking the same thing
Not about your embiggening skills, but rather about when Endy was coming in as a defensive replacement and Tatis was being moved to left field.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish you would
BobbyV is a machine, but you could at least moderately embiggen us with more regularity.
Thank you.
Not so much a machine, just a guy with very little else to do most nights
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomorrow looks pretty shady
I’ve got a game, and won’t be home to post.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
I’ll probably be busy Friday, too
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been hitting a wooden bat with a mallet for most of the last 75 minutes
I’m not sure it’s an improvement over discussions on game threads.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Only all night long.
God, won’t that dude shut the hell up?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
COME ON CARLOS, CONSULT YOUR NOTEBOOK!
SU TARGETAS
by JohnPeterson on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
-la.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 30, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Joe
has really sucked lately. We need some bullpen help too
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Marlins
have tailored their team to the ballpark with Green Monster Lite in left center and their righthanded power. They are pretty scary
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since when is Florida a bad team
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Since they're outperforming Pythagoras
by 6 games
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
in other words
Since they’re lucky to be 5 (soon to be 6) games over .500 when they’ve been outscored by 30 runs over the course of the season
this is absurd
a win is a win. It doesn’t matter how you get there. they are not a bad team and have a good chance of finishing ahead of the Mets who I guess aren’t “lucky.”
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They're not a 'bad' team
but they are decidedly mediocre. They’ve been outscored by 30 runs so far this season. That doesn’t happen to good teams
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
hey Josh
stick to your guns. Don’t flip flop on me
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so they're like about a game more mediocre
than the Mets
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More than that.
Coming into the night, the Mets were meeting their Pythagoran prediction. In other words, they’re about where their run differential would lead you to expect them to be
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh I thought you were kidding
what is this pythagorean bullshit is it pitching squared plus hitting squared equally mets blogger squared
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Nothing so complicated
Runs scored vs. runs allowed. The higher your run differential, the better your expected record. According to Pythagoras, a team that’s -30 should be a few games under .500. Outperforming Pythagoras means a team’s been lucky.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
this is bullshit
Luck can’t be behind a team being 6 games over 500 after more than 100 games are played.
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Sorry
Didn’t mean to hit ‘post’. But why can’t luck be behind a team overperforming? Isn’t a player who has a career season just getting lucky?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Then what is it, then?
If a career .250/.320/.380 hitter puts up a .330/.400/.510 line for just one season, and then reverts back to his normal craptacular ways, that’s not luck?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Our final hope is Marlon Anderson
Repent! The end is extremely fucking nigh!
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
oh well.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Jul 30, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess Carlos B
got his big hit for the month last night. I’ll expect another at end of August
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Perhaps it's a coincidence,
But a pig just flew by my window.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
nice fight in these Mets
get the tying run up
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Yeah
Was that him running? Jesus, dude’s either slower than hell, or still feeling that hamstring injury.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
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