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Is Jerry Really Any Better?

Things that went wrong:

  • No timely hitting
  • Didn't rough up Happ when they had the chance
  • Santana had the nerve to pitch a bad inning
  • Jerry Manuel has shit where his brains would normally be

And like that the Mets are 5.5 back. Happy independence day!

Big winners: Johan Santana, +25.2% WPA, Ramon Castro, +13.6% WPA
Big losers: Duaner Sanchez, -35.7% WPA, Carlos Beltran, -18.6%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Ramon Castro leadoff double in fifth, +13.2% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Shane Victorino blah blah blah, -39.0% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: -10.6%
Total batter WPA: -39.4%


Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by pingel; his effort in tonight's game thread embiggens us all.

Name # of Posts
pingel 35
itsmetsforme 34
JohnPeterson 23
gogomets 15
ZaBlanc 8
elifriedman 1

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To my credit

I was only there during the Beltran-Doesn’t-Earn-His-Money stage of the game.

The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.

by ZaBlanc on Jul 4, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

weird

you always seem to be there during those times, and disappear when he singlehandedly wins games for us. crazy, isn’t it?

by gogomets on Jul 4, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once.

He won one game for us. After three distinctly shoddy at-bats in the clutch, he finally won one in the 14th inning that night. That’s been it. And I was there, giving him credit.

Seems like a long time ago now.

But at least he’s not the Marlins closer tonight.

The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.

by ZaBlanc on Jul 5, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran

I just checked with the Elias Sports Bureau and apparently any run driven in on a double, homerun, etc. in the first seven innings of a game only counts as half a run, and any driven in after the seventh inning count as five runs apiece! Who knew?!?

by Eric Simon on Jul 5, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't want to call you a troll

because you seem like a legit fan, but i really don’t understand what you want from the guy. i’m looking at his career splits, his OPS w/ risp is .919. mr. superclutch derek jeter’s? .839.

the King of Clutch, david ortiz? .928. he’s barely better than beltran is in these “clutch” situations.

by gogomets on Jul 5, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

man

people on metsblog whining about how terrible santana is for giving up 2 runs in 8 innings. i just don’t understand how people can stand to be so ignorant. it’s disheartening. if they’re this ignorant and are supposedly diehard fans, who knows what else they’re ignorant about (like, stuff that actually matters in the long run)? Scary.

by gogomets on Jul 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

These are the same people that are Beltran sympathizers. Don’t blame the $20 million dollar man and his gentle emotions.

The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.

by ZaBlanc on Jul 5, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

btw

they all hate beltran, so i don’t know what you’re going on about. they even think wright and reyes are overrated losers.

by gogomets on Jul 5, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran

Zablanc your are GM of the Mets. Who does Beltran get dealt for and who places CF.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 5, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

guys i wouldn't mind having out there, other than beltran

sizemore
hamilton
upton

none of them are getting traded any time soon, so…

by gogomets on Jul 5, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I paid good money

to watch this disaster. Manuel had a tough game. First of all Church needed to start this game, you gotta win with Santana an need your best offense and defense out there. I would have left Santana in for the ninth, and batting for Castro was silly.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 5, 2008 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Batting order

Isn’t it time to adjust the middle of our lineup to reflect the performance of the players and not their Reps? The 3, 4, 5, & 6 spots should be Church, Wright, Beltran, Delgado.

Any other thoughts to get more production this year?

by The Optimist on Jul 5, 2008 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Platoon Delgado

He can’t hit lefties any more
.215/.255/.366 621 OPS with 30k’s in 93 abs

by DoctorK16 on Jul 5, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

get better players

seriously…chris aguila, endy chavez, fernando tatis et al. are going to kill your offensive production, no matter who’s batting ahead of them.

by gogomets on Jul 5, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was a classic Mets game

The Mets are pitching their ace and the Phillies are pitching a AAA call up. Santana throws like an ace yet loses because the mets can’t score off Happ and make Durbin look like Walter Fucking Johnson. Then they take out Santnan needlessly and the bullpen loses it in a flash.
This team is unwatchable. I don’t say that because I don’t care but because I get way too pissed off to watch this shit anymore.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jul 5, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

you know what

I have been as tough as anybody on this site as far as calling out ZaBlanc about his anti-Beltran bias but Beltran was awful last night and it helped cost us the game. He looks like he can’t see the ball right now. As for Manuel, taking out Castro was dumb, taking out Santana even dumber. Not starting Church the dumbest of all. And once again we lose a tight ballgame in the 9th without Wagner getting into the game. Alou will never come back and we will be stuck with Aguila and Tatis for the rest of the year. Time to clean house if we don’t bounce back in this series. I start with the GM and Tony B, the jerks who got Willie fired only to replace him with this mindless fool. He has blown two out of the last three games with his idiocy.

by Endys Game on Jul 5, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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