Open Thread - Game 89: Mets vs Phillies
by Eric Simon on Jul 7, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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This is basically the same line up that left 14 on base yesterday
On plus side, it’s basically the same line up that got 14+ guys on base to be left on
just checked
thats 5 position player with below average OPS+, including our super sweet #2 hitter’s 68 (including a .308 obp). thats effing gross. but then again its 8-0 in the third so i guess its working out ok right now.
Two Problems With The All-Star Game Nowadays, To Me
1. Since the AL and the NL play interleague games, the novelty of the match-up has died for me.
2. The game has meaning. Why ruin such a fun time with seriousness? I always saw the All-Star game and the break as a breather for everyone, those in the game and those outside the game.
I used to love watching the All-Star game, seeing the NL and AL players mix it up they way they didn’t during the season. The atmosphere of an All-Star game was relaxing. The players played but weren’t trying to take each other out and such. They were competitive but not so much as to not have it’s light moments. All-Star games should be frivolous and light-hearted. Not every single game during the course of a season has to have deep meaning and consequences. AL/NL pride was enough in my day, dagnabit!
I don’t care about it, anymore, and I don’t watch or listen to it. It’s too serious now. Thank you, MLB, for taking the fun out of baseball… again.
"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)
i think the game is still light-hearted
no one knows who’s gonna be in the WS, so none of the players really have a significant stake in the outcome. i’m sure the players want to win more for bragging rights than anything else
i blame Bud Selig for this and many things
still figuring out how he caused global heating
I.M. Forme
did utley tag endy?
looked he did, but the ump was looking right at the play…looked like it would be pretty hard to blow that call
Just logged on
have been listening on the radio and decided to log on. Thought the thread would be 50 or 60 comments deep by now. Big Big game. Where is everyone? I likey what I see so far.
Reyes
Now batting .301 and I would imagine his OBP is now around .360. He is back. Now will anyone in the press notice and start laying off the kid.
maybe the all star slight is lighting a fire under his goofy ass
the fielding still needs some work
I.M. Forme
Not really
he is a terrific fielder and has made some gems in this series. He slumped in June with the glove but will bounce back. last year he should have won a Gold Glove. His bat has been hot since May and he has been getting on base. I know he acts goofy sometimes but he is the Mets’ best player. And he is maturing, he is still only 24.
His fielding is cause for concern
His RZR is down about half a point from his past two seasons and he is making fewer plays out of zone. He ranks way down among NL SS this year in terms of fielding which is a surprise given his play the last two years.
just not that concerned about it
if it keeps up, I would change my mind of course. But we have seen in the last two days, that he still more than capable in the field. Again when he slacks off mentally, he sometimes butchers the routine play or gets to a ball late. That will change when he grows up. There is nothing that suggests he has actually lost range physically.
Tejada-esque
Those are almost Miguel Tejada-like numbers…
Oh, wait.
WTF
"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner
now the key is
besides not blowing the lead, get into their pen so they are worn out for the next series
I.M. Forme
I will
need to have him strong for the second half and he needs his confidenice back.
i don't think we need pedro
starting pitching hasn’t been this team’s problem…consistent hitting has been a problem, but i think the offense has been playing a lot better on this road trip
it looks like the mets will be 7-5 on this trip if the score holds up, but they could have easily been 9-3. maybe this team is finally turning around.
starting pitching
The offense needs to play more consistently , that goes without saying. But the starting pitching still has issues. Perez is still an engima, Pelfrey still a work in progress (albeit a sucessful one) and Maine can still be very spotty at times. The pitching might be good enough to win some games but to really take off we need Pedro to step it up.
Pitching has been worse than you think
7th in the NL in ERA, 12th in BB, 8th in HR’s. Not bad but not great. And those numbers have improved a little with Perez and Pelf having some good starts lately.
Walks
that is the key. Far too many of those. Elevates pitch counts needlessly and taxes our bullpen. That is my problem with Maine and why i don’t think he is really a top starter in the league yet. Too many walks and pitches thrown.
the starting pitching may not be great
but i feel like they usually keep us in games…it seems like the losses come more often from a lack of offense or the bullpen blowing the game. but that’s just anecdotal…haven’t really bothered to look at the stats
holy shit
i just got around to checking the score on the internet. 8-0?!? why didnt somebody say something?
I just hope
Manuel doesn’t leave Pedro in too long if he struggles. He’s thrown 39 pitches through 2 and only 22 strikes.
Yeah, it's long and the seats are uncomfortable.
IT NEVER GETS OLD!!!
"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner
Church
Daily News suggested his season is “subject to question” or words to that effect.
no its not good at all
if I were the players union, I would be hammering the Mets on this every day and calling for an investigation. A season is one thing but we are talking about a man’s life and Omar and Willie et al really screwed up here.
nice d wright
of course if that was beltrans homer wouldnt we hear about his unclutchness right about now?
Unclutch at 8-1?
Yer parodying yourself :-)
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
Mine too.
Though, I have the Reyes jersey cause I like the little guy’s personality a lot more. And Beltran’s mole annoys me. :-)
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
since we have beltran lovers/haters in da hizzy, a question to kill some time
what do youall make of Belty’s inability to foul off pitchers with 2 strikes. he has problems with breaking stuff I know, but I find it most puzzling that he watches those called third strikes go sailing by so often. Shouldn’t a MLB hitter be able to protect the plate with 2 strikes?
I.M. Forme
i wish i watched enough games live to give an opinion
i do feel like d wright is one of the best 2 strike hitters in the game by my evidence is mere scanty anecdotes. maybe when im not feeling so lazy i’ll look up how the both hit with 2 stikes off fangraphs
When is the last time?
When is the last time the Mets beat a good team, in a hostile atmosphere, so badly—that none of us had complaints? Good pitching, hitting, D.
It seems foreign to me.
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
maybe it's a little much to complain tonight
but doesn;t easley know how to $#@% slide? if you are ambiviant about scoring then why take off for home?
speculation that his ankle hurts aside, damion is half a ballplayer—half the time he is completent and effective, and the other half he exhibits crappy defense and terrible instincts
I.M. Forme
hope he's alright for many reasons
cause I’m a swell humanitarian, mets need for a right fielder/hitter, and can’t stand another media shitstorm this season
I.M. Forme
AGAIN
they revise themselves to be wrong!!!
the fan clearly leaned over the field. just like the delgado debacle!
I.M. Forme
I'm curious
What could one of the umps have said to convince the rest of them that the initial call was mistaken?
I hate to say "I told you so"...
But I’ve been saying all along that his numbers would regress (or I suppose it’s “progress”) towards the mean.
he been down so long
it looks like up to us
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well like i said Ive already revised my mental standings
also gloated to my wife, did victory shuffle, and stroked my pedro doll. So needless to say, any tragic ending to this game would be unacceptable.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah well i was right when i said this would be a season turning point
i hate this team. Heilman, i’m comin to get ya. Maybe not tonight, maybe not tomorrow, but soon.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
oh boy..
I took a nap, the Mets lead the game by nine runs.
Maybe I just should have slept through it.
EAMUS METROPOLI!
i liked his circuitous route to second best of all
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I got to watch him play Left Field live
At AT&T….terrible.
I must have forgotten after that HR.
EAMUS METROPOLI!
outside of the grim reaper
billy goat is the last guy i want to see tonight.
in fact, i urge you to check out my photoshop homage to Billy’s official entrance to the pantheon of mets blood pressure raising heroes of the 9th. really, i spent all morning on it.
I.M. Forme
I am going Insane!!
I go away , listen on the radio, run back to the computor scared out of my mind and now Wagner gives up a leadoff double!! Help!!
outside of the grim reaper
billy goat is the last guy i want to see tonight.
in fact, i urge you to check out my photoshop homage to Billy’s official entrance to the pantheon of mets blood pressure raising heroes of the 9th. really, i spent all morning on it.
I.M. Forme
Final score has to be...
10-9. It just has to be. Bob Murphy lives.
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
this is unsatisfactory
I really don’t like the direction this game has taken
We're cursed.
It was all too good to be true. Wagner has to make us suffer.
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
How jaded am I?
That I am relived Howard is ONLY the tying run. How used to losing am I?
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
Got one!
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
Thank God
Utley got taken out of the game!!!
that was well-formed speech
mine was more like “eeeeeee”
Thanks Billy Wagner.
For almost making my heart explode out of my chest. You asshole.
EAMUS METROPOLI!
BOBBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Mets win the damn thing by a final score of 10 to 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
Mets Win!!
They Win!! They Win the Damn Game 10-9!!!
PS
Beltran even clutch defensively. Youc an all bow to me now.
The 2008 NY Mets: Reyes singles. Castillo infield single. Wright walks. Beltran lines out. ZaBlanc bitches. Delgado strikes out. Reyes picked off third. Fans boo. Padres win 2-1.
No thanks
But nice job on that Murphy reference!
that was a shitty time to air mail somethign but lets not forget
that wagner barely backed up the damn play. He was probably lost in thought over some passage in Heidegger or puzzling over the tragedy of the commons.
I.M. Forme
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched the replay
The throw wasn’t that bad. It was off the bag a bit, but Wright was on his knees and tried for the slap tag, missing the ball entirely.
I agree with Eric
and the press after the game could not wait to go after Beltran. 3 or 4 questions bascially trying to get jerry to call out his centerfielder. Uncalled for INMO
OMAR! PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS...
AND PLEASE! GET SOME HELP FOR THE BULLPEN BEFORE I LOSE MY DAMN MIND!
GEE ZUS!
"DUDE..."
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 7, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
kuroda
nice game. if i were the dodgers, blanco would be wearing it his next at-bat, though. bunting in the 7th inning of a perfect game…wow…
I'm gonna disagree
It’s still just a three run deficit and you’ve gotta do whatever it takes to get on base. You don’t quit trying to win the game just because someone’s got a perfect game going.
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