New York Mets @ Pittsburgh Pirates GameThread, Aug 16, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Pedro Martinez	3-3	12	12	0	0	0	0	62.0	67	39	37	13	27	45	5.37	1.52

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Zach Duke	4-10	24	24	0	0	0	0	139.1	178	87	79	16	40	66	5.10	1.56

Whatever is happening in New York, I wish I was a part of it.

BECAUSE THEIR AIN’T NO ATTENTION BEIN PAID TO THE BLOG! Lord have mercy people! We’re in 1st and riding a four game winning streak! It’s time to start talkin about it and bein part of it.

Where my peeps at?

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pedro time

I don’t think I’ve watched a full game of Pedro pitching this year (not deliberately, of course). I’m looking forward to it.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh christ

Wagner’s elbow is still barking. I’m having visions of TJ surgery right now.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice start!

Well, maybe the Mets have finally learned how to feast on bad teams. A little late, but I’ll take it!

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good start!

Jose!

Gary forgot to mention that Jose is 8th in the majors in VORP, 1 spot behind A-Rod. That’s another reason to consider him for MVP.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

good so far

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

In why the Pirates suck while Minnesota/Oakland/Tampa Bay are awesome (well, not the A’s this year, but still). The Pirates just have no idea to develop players, and have wrecked a promising young pitcher like Duke (as they did Oliver Perez before). Contrast that to Minnesota, who churns out young pitcher after young pitcher who succeed. TB too.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"this" is what?

Duke’s failure to become a great pitcher? I find the development-scouting part of the game kind of a mystery, actually — did the Pirates fail to develop Duke, or did they pick the wrong guy to try to develop? Organizations like the Marlins and Rays and Twins have great track records with young players, but is it a result of their coaching and teaching and how they handle them, or is it just that they pick the right guys to begin with?

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

both the right guys and developing them right

Gary and Keith were both talking about how the Pirates messed with Duke’s delivery and he’s been a wreck ever since. I’ve seen comments about how Duke was messed up by Pittsburgh’s incompetent coaching over at Bucs Dugout as well.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see

I don’t really know Duke’s history in that kind of detail. I mean, with an organization like the Pirates there has to be some reason to blame absolutely every facet of the way the team is run — but I wonder if another club would’ve been able to do any better with Duke.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

whaty

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

what

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

i don t like zack duke

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so

so guys

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dude.

Do you have something to say? With, you know, some content?

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

no

-Ian Apple

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn

There goes the no-hitter.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

yes

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

seriously.

Please? Use your words to express meaning?

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

yes

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey everyone!

Happy Saturday.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes

of course

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dinner

i need to eat dinner

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hooray Jose!

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

if not for Pedro

Reyes would have had an inside the parker there. OK, he’s got the hard part of the cycle out of the way.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets

i like jose

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't tell if this is a joke

Are you six years old, or is this some kind of Andy Kaufman conceptual humor thing?

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kaufman

I like him.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

your snobbish comments are tiresome as well

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was meant for "anonymous", not you pingel

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeter

sucks

-Ian Apple

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

“He really has a way of throwing that baseball.”

—Wayne Hagin Apple

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Keith

For the billionth time, the Yankees have good enough pitching. Their offense is pretty average, and that’s what’s killing them. They scored 2 runs through the 12 innings today, and only won because KC’s offense is even more wretched.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wright

Gets an out.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Giuseppe Franco

Cuts hair.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Alright.

That’s my last one.

I promise.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McLouth

good

-Ian Apple (OK, my last one too)

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha

That was interesting.

They faded out too late.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what's going on

I step out for a couple minutes and Jose tears up the joint.

Is he freakin locked in or what?

by mmxii on Aug 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would say so.

McClouth kind of misplayed his triple. He was playing way too shallow.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think so

I’m going into a no-hitter-like state of mind here, hoping for the cycle.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sonofa...

Even his outs are looking ridiculous right now.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha

That replay of McLouth’s moon shot was awsome just because of the family walking along the river who just kept walking as if the ball never rolled right in front of them and into the river.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that's a good trivia question

My guess is that Alfonzo driving in Rickey Henderson in ’99 is the record.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Go Hippo, Go!

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

Does Eric have a “ban” button on his iPhone?

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

I hope so. I really, really hope so.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

help help

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

damn!

He hit that one a ton, but to the wrong part of the park. Of course, it would have been triple #2, not the double if McLouth doesn’t run it down.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jeter

Has an Edge.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you know what I want to see?

Jeter selling hair restoration products, and Giuseppe Franco pitching Fords.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm waiting

for when his skills start fading with age and the Yanks kick him to the curb like Bernie.

Then, if he signs with another team, do I root for him to make a surge and show the Yanks up, or for him just to keep sucking and finally be forced into retirement in disgrace.

There’s got to be a way to do both.

by mmxii on Aug 16, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rolling Rock?!

Really?

I’m trying to think if I’ve ever had that…..

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

Go Mets : )

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Karstens tomorrow?

Oh boy. That should be a good game.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

with any luck

Perhaps the Mets can help punch his ticket for the return to Earth. The guy isn’t really that good yet.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm worried

It’s the perfect combination of a mediocre but lucky pitcher vs. the Mets inability to score any runs for Santana. My guess is they lose 1-0 on a bases-loaded walk by Heilman in the bottom of the 9th.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh man.

and I thought I was the pessimistic one….

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice job by Pedro.

Off-Speed the rookie to death.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

a pretty AB indeed

I can just imagine the voice-over.. “You want the heater, meat? You don’t deserve the heater.”

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

BUG ON THE CAMERA!!

AGH!!

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

shit!

Where’s that ridiculous short porch in Houston when you need it?

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Honestly.

383 feet?! Really?!

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that woman behind home plate

Do you think her arms are tired from holding up that Pirates blanket yet?

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

she's probably getting paid by the pirates organization

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

FREE BRIAN SCHNEIDER

…to sit out the remainder of the season.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree completely

Unleash the Hippo!

by mmxii on Aug 16, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get the hook!

He’s running outta steam

by mmxii on Aug 16, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

whew

I stand by my panicked cry, despite Pedro’s judo

by mmxii on Aug 16, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad he was allowed to finish the inning

With a lead this size against a team this weak, I’d rather see Pedro gut his way out of it (especially as his pitch count wasn’t too high) than ask for another inning from the bullpen.

by anonymous on Aug 16, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

A very sold outing for Pedro. He’s getting better and better. With Perez and Pelfrey both improved of late, the Mets rotation is turning into quite a strength.

Vote change: DePodesta/Acta in 2009!!!

by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 16, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mets

come on mets

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

cry

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mets vs. Pirates

the pirates suck

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah a four year deal for Castillo is insane.

I would have only given him 1 or 2 years.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

im going

by johnnyapple on Aug 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Does anyone else think.

That if we were watching this game last year, we’d be losing it by now?

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Aug 16, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Take him the fuck out now please!

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who the "f" is this guy?

please, become a garbage man, a security guard for a apartment complex. anything, anything but a major league pitcher.

you totally suck.

and i don’t want to hear anyone post some dumb, bullshit stats about how good he was in the minors.

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ah yes

bullpen giving up runs after the 6th inning. i guess we can count on this the remainder of the year. how pathetic

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we totally suck

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh hooray!

feliciano…i’m going to be ill

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ooh-rah marine corps!

"ENOUGH WITH MICHAEL PHELPS AND BRETT FAVRE ALREADY."

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

forgive me

for getting on Manual for not using KUnz. He must have known something we didn’t and no more Joe Smith PLEASE. He should never pitch after July. NOw that Wagner is no ready it is time to PANIC

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Aug 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs