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Open Thread - Game 131: Mets vs Astros

Houston Astros at New York Mets, Aug 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez 9-7 26 26 0 0 0 0 149.0 127 72 65 19 78 134 3.93 1.38


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Randy Wolf 2-1 5 5 0 0 0 0 26.1 31 16 15 2 13 24 5.13 1.67

Amazin' Avenue Swag Contest

This game's swag contest is up.

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How fathetic was last night's loss:
Just kinda fathetic
14 votes
Really pucking fathetic
24 votes

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kind of a harsh poll question

i mean…the team’s in first and they had won 10 of their last 11. they’re not going to win ’em all.

that being said, i voted for “really fucking pathetic.”

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

They had been rolling pretty hard. As long as they don’t lose too much of their groove, I won’t be upset. But Maine needs work.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, nuts to last night

Let’s Go Mets!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Last night was gonna happen

Nothing last forever, people.

For instance, Catsmeat’s swag contest lead will last until the end of the month when he wins. Ha! Good work little brother.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do what I can

Games like last night are no help but almost everyone sucked last night so no big deal.

Except Beelzebot – all picking again the Mets and getting 60 points.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

nice to hear Keith back in the booth. I’m pretty much over Gary/Ron solo games forever.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

was he serious?

Did Jose lose a bet or something? That was absurd.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I was wondering

something in the scouting report that Bernie Williams was in center-field today?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too early to be clutch!

nice one Bel-TRON!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

hold on

Wright’s walk was clutch.

The HR was just stats-padding.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selfish baseball on his part

There is no BELTRAN in TEAM!

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

so goddamn UNCLUTCH

meaningless bomb in the first. come on. save that shit for the 7th, please.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking.

Beltran has no sense of propriety or clutchness. What if the Mets need like two runs in the bottom of the 8th?

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

kiner’s gonna be in the booth today. i understand about half of what he says. good stories though.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

what if

in this quantum-mechanical, non-intuitive universe where an effect sometimes precedes its cause, it actually is more conducive to winning to have a scrappy clubhouse leader who grinds out hits and fosters good chemistry than to have a big stats producer?

I would feel kinda silly.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you suggesting

The Mets should have more former punters on their roster?

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 24, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

But what if there is a non-quantifiable phenomenon (we could call it an "Edge") where a player is “Driven” to win, mostly by playing the game the right way and wanting it more?

Just like how we can’t predict what happens to all the subatomic particles, we may never understand how to measure a player’s heart with today’s technology.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for the movie

What the @#$%& do Bill James and Theo Epstein know?

by Simons on Aug 24, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, exactly

They can make Scary Movie 5 but can’t bankroll that movie?

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happened to Moneyball?

I thought they were making it, but I can’t find anything to suggest production ever began.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emotional

Ty Wiggington slaps bat after K cool. Jose Reyes does it losing control of emotions.

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Semi-Clutch!

After all it’s only the 5th

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 24, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

Still too early to be clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't consider a Beltran hit to be clutch

unless it’s a grand slam in the bottom of the 9th with a full count and the Mets were trailing by 3 beforehand.

If Beltran did this in the top of the 9th, however, it would not be clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and there have to be 2 outs, obviously

And really, it’s only clutch in the NLCS — doing it in the regular season doesn’t really count either.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points

Although I don’t think it would be clutch if Beltran did that in the NLCS. He’s already shown that he couldn’t produce in one specific at bat, so we already know he can’t be clutch in the NLCS.

Beltran has to do that with 2 outs in Game 7 of the World Series. Against the Yankees. Otherwise he isn’t clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

comparison

to great a young pitcher who did end up blowing out his shoulder at age 27 and was never the same

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

tune on over to WFAN

It’s refreshing to hear Eddie Coleman call a few innings — though, be warned, the Haginator continues to step all over his play-by-play.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK

gave up a hit to david fucking newhan

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

nice work

walk the guy with the sub .300 OBP. fuck this.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Ausmus

That was unfortunately Schneideresque.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

... and the punter kicks a field goal

I think I made a mistake there: it was really Feliciano who was being batting-practice-esque.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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