Houston Astros @ New York Mets GameThread, Aug 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT

Open Thread - Game 131: Mets vs Astros

by Eric Simon on Aug 24, 2008 11:52 AM EDT in Game Chatters Comment 60 comments

Houston Astros @ New York Mets

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez	9-7	26	26	0	0	0	0	149.0	127	72	65	19	78	134	3.93	1.38

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Randy Wolf	2-1	5	5	0	0	0	0	26.1	31	16	15	2	13	24	5.13	1.67

Poll

How fathetic was last night's loss:

Just kinda fathetic

14 votes

Really pucking fathetic

24 votes

38 votes | Poll has closed

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kind of a harsh poll question

i mean…the team’s in first and they had won 10 of their last 11. they’re not going to win ’em all.

that being said, i voted for “really fucking pathetic.”

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

They had been rolling pretty hard. As long as they don’t lose too much of their groove, I won’t be upset. But Maine needs work.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, nuts to last night

Let’s Go Mets!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Last night was gonna happen

Nothing last forever, people.

For instance, Catsmeat’s swag contest lead will last until the end of the month when he wins. Ha! Good work little brother.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do what I can

Games like last night are no help but almost everyone sucked last night so no big deal.

Except Beelzebot – all picking again the Mets and getting 60 points.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also,

nice to hear Keith back in the booth. I’m pretty much over Gary/Ron solo games forever.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i don't

give me ron

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

was he serious?

Did Jose lose a bet or something? That was absurd.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering

something in the scouting report that Bernie Williams was in center-field today?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too early to be clutch!

nice one Bel-TRON!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hold on

Wright’s walk was clutch.

The HR was just stats-padding.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just a worthless compiler.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Selfish baseball on his part

There is no BELTRAN in TEAM!

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so goddamn UNCLUTCH

meaningless bomb in the first. come on. save that shit for the 7th, please.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I was thinking.

Beltran has no sense of propriety or clutchness. What if the Mets need like two runs in the bottom of the 8th?

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Aug 24, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, it's really too bad about Reyes now

Obviously he was trying to be too clutch.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

tough to say that wolf would've walked wright and then have grooved one to beltran

if jose hadn’t ran

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

awesome

kiner’s gonna be in the booth today. i understand about half of what he says. good stories though.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

alright ollie

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and a nice read by easley

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

did you guys know

Tatis is the only guy to hit two…

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

unicycles with a Humvee in a freak accident?

by Simons on Aug 24, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

also grand slams in the same inning

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking

birds with one stone.

It’s harder than it sounds.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

now that

is a clutch walk.

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and that

was a terrible at bat

by gogomets on Aug 24, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Erstad is always hustling

by Simons on Aug 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he still sucks

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When you suck, you have to hustle

When you’re gifted, you can be lackadaisacal — like Beltran

by Simons on Aug 24, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm ready for Castillo to come back

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 24, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

in this quantum-mechanical, non-intuitive universe where an effect sometimes precedes its cause, it actually is more conducive to winning to have a scrappy clubhouse leader who grinds out hits and fosters good chemistry than to have a big stats producer?

I would feel kinda silly.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you suggesting

The Mets should have more former punters on their roster?

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 24, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really

But what if there is a non-quantifiable phenomenon (we could call it an "Edge") where a player is “Driven” to win, mostly by playing the game the right way and wanting it more?

Just like how we can’t predict what happens to all the subatomic particles, we may never understand how to measure a player’s heart with today’s technology.

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't wait for the movie

What the @#$%& do Bill James and Theo Epstein know?

by Simons on Aug 24, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, exactly

They can make Scary Movie 5 but can’t bankroll that movie?

by mmxii on Aug 24, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what happened to Moneyball?

I thought they were making it, but I can’t find anything to suggest production ever began.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Emotional

Ty Wiggington slaps bat after K cool. Jose Reyes does it losing control of emotions.

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wigginton is "scrappy"

Reyes is just good.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beltran! Clutch!

by DoctorK16 on Aug 24, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Semi-Clutch!

After all it’s only the 5th

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 24, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh

Still too early to be clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't consider a Beltran hit to be clutch

unless it’s a grand slam in the bottom of the 9th with a full count and the Mets were trailing by 3 beforehand.

If Beltran did this in the top of the 9th, however, it would not be clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and there have to be 2 outs, obviously

And really, it’s only clutch in the NLCS — doing it in the regular season doesn’t really count either.

by anonymous on Aug 24, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good points

Although I don’t think it would be clutch if Beltran did that in the NLCS. He’s already shown that he couldn’t produce in one specific at bat, so we already know he can’t be clutch in the NLCS.

Beltran has to do that with 2 outs in Game 7 of the World Series. Against the Yankees. Otherwise he isn’t clutch.

by ams258 on Aug 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs