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Open Thread - Game 158: Mets vs Cubs

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Chicago Cubs @ New York Mets


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez 10-7 32 32 0 0 0 0 184.1 157 93 84 23 97 168 4.10 1.38
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Zambrano 14-6 29 29 1 1 0 0 184.0 169 80 77 17 68 128 3.77 1.29

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What should the Mets do with John Maine?
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If the doc says he’s healthy and good enough to pitch AND Maine says he’s healthy and good enough to pitch then…COWBOY THE “F” UP and get us into the playoffs!

by LOUtheMETSfan on Sep 24, 2008 6:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Five to go . . .

oh man oh man. I’m disappointed I missed almost all of last night’s game but wow, what a result. Let’s hope that effort carries over tonight against Big Z. They just have to keep winning. That’s it. Nuts to everything else. So let’s see what the lads can do . . .

Let’s Go Mets! Ya Gotta Believe!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 6:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Go Ollie!

Perez has proved to be efficient in pressure games. We need him to pitch well tonight, because Zambrano is still Zambrano.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 6:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Santana's broken-bat hit last night

Anyone else think it’s silly to suggest that it will become a part of Cubs lore like the goat and Merkle’s boner and Bartman and all that other stuff? I mean, last night’s game meant nothing to the Cubs and losing it didn’t hurt them at all.

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh yeah

SNY was just reaching for pregame show material.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Howie was on that play last night

Like it was the second coming. I almost puked.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You are absolutely right.

Even my buddies in Chicago thought it was absurd when I told them about the comment. I lived in Chicago for 10 years and all my buddies are going nuts about the Cubbies. To them it is destiny.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Onion and David Wright

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/everything_on_tv_reminds

Not sure if any of you guys saw this, but I thought it was hilarious.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Heh.

Good for a larf.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

LMAO

Good stuff.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice DP!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Beautiful

Delgado saves another error.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Braves up 2-0

Suck it, Philly.

by Eric Simon on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

dammit. I hate walks.

Everytime Ollie pitches I have a small heart attack.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Wel, I am a Mets and Giants fan

I think they give them out free if you have ever been a season ticket holder.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Must be season ticket holders only then

We never got them for buying the 6-packs.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not bad

Now let’s play some O.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

It couldn't hurt

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Defense wins championships

but offense wins games. And right now I’m more concerned with winning games.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was not the start we wanted, then.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Where is Uncle Lou?

Should somebody go check on him?

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Working

Next few nights, he says. Google Images is being woefully underutilized in his absence.

by Eric Simon on Sep 24, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

Google is probably noticing a noticeable dip in their ad revenue tonight

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You think they are saying

“Crud, why is no one downloading our pirate images tonight. Maybe those MSN Seinfeld commercials are killings us?”

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh shit

Yeah, Dave! Get mad! Put the ump in his place!

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

That was ripped.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Blech.

Fucking ex-Braves.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

I am bad luck.

I turned on the tv and that’s what I saw.

Damn

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes sir.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 24, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Could it have been Lou?

He embiggened the hell out of the game thread, after all.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't here yesterday....

I hope this doesn’t become a pattern.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah

Someone joined in the 5th inning, and the rest of the game went great.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Upon further review

it was itsmetsforme.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bill Murray!!

Awesome.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 24, 2008 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Don't you mean

Ahmad Rashad, fuck yeah!!

by Simons on Sep 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't recognize Ahmad

without his lips attached to Michael Jordan’s ass.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it my TV

or does everyone on SNY sound like T-Pain right now?

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:37 PM EDT   0 recs

fuckin' DeRosa

fuckin’ Penn fuck

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

grrrrrrrrrr

why can’t Zambrano throw a temper tantrum and lose his sh.t already

by Simons on Sep 24, 2008 7:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah

You can’t even count on them to suck.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't hear what they said

Did Boston and Tampa Bay cheat or something?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course

It’s their job. All season Girardi has been saying, “I honestly think we’ll be fine.” Sure, they had a pretty good season. But the Yankees will never be able to accept mediocrity.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha

Apparently not.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they probably are

two very good teams in the AL East and the NL West is a big pile of crap

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and on top of the level of competition

the Yankees actually have a better record than the Dodgers

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Intangibles of the Dodgers

Given their horrible offseason acquisitions and the lack of performance of guys like Juan Pierre. I think it should some true grit that they fought back in that weaker division. I give them a lot of credit for showing some heart; something the Yankees lacked all year.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they were a mediocre team

then they added Manny Ramirez who has RAKED (214 OPS+ since the trade) and all of a sudden they started to win. that’s not intangibles, it’s a very tangible improvement leading to scoring more runs and winning more games.

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, the intangibles are ...

While Manny made a marked improvement, they were still within striking distance long before Manny. And given his previous actions, it was no layup that he would have the impact that he had.

The lose their reliever, they lose Andruw Jones, They have no lead-off hitter, they lose Garciaparra, etc… The intangibles were the grit of that team to stay close with no proven stud pitcher and no run scoring prior to Manny coming.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"within striking distance"

sure, they were .500 and within striking distance because their division is crap. the Blue Jays had the same record on August 1st and they were 9.5 games out.

they lost Andruw Jones who was shitty last year and even worse this year before he got hurt.

if you want to give intangibles credit for the fact that they’re mediocre, fine, but I think it’s just that they have mediocre talent in a poor division and played mediocre-ly

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Manny has only been there since August 1st

But, like you said, he has made the tangible difference since he got there.

by losangelesmets on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here are Hankenstein's comments:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=462429

Of particular hilarity:

This is when the topic of revenue sharing usually comes up. That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.

Then it gets better.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

was it right

that the Yankees used to hoard good players so other teams couldn’t have them before free agency? what do you think of that, Hankenstein?

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it sharing?

Or is it theft?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 24, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Somehow the Yankees don't seem "American" to me

America is about equal opportunity. And if you asked Royals fans, I don’t think they’d say everything is even.

by Prince on Sep 24, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ollie.....

Come on now..

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So