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Season On The Brink: Marlins 6, Mets 1

In the dwindling light of this fading season, in a game and a series that the Mets simply had to win, their opening salvo was a flaccid offensive attack and another bullpen effort that was long on pitchers but short on relief.

On a night when the Phillies cut their magic number to repeat as NL East champions to one, and the Brewers pulled ahead of the Mets by a game in the Wild Card race, the Mets find themselves in a position similar to the one they faced in 2007's final weekend: No longer able to control their own fate in the playoff races, the Mets are left to play Shea's final two games against the Marlins while watching and pleading for the out-of-town scoreboard to come up roses.

Mets.com may know something we don't, because it's already showing Johan Santana as Saturday's starter on three days rest. At this point, the Mets can forget about the NL East and have to focus their collective energy on winning their last two games. They need some help from the Cubs along the way, but this thing isn't over. First things first: Win on Saturday.

Big winners: Ramon Martinez, +9.6% WPA, Carlos Beltran, +3.9% WPA
Big losers: Ryan Church, -13.9% WPA, Jose Reyes, -13.3% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Martinez RBI double, +10.2% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Church GIDP in 3rd, -10.4% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: -16.6%
Total batter WPA: -33.4%
GWRBI: Dan Uggla


Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by LOUtheMETSfan; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Name # of Posts
LOUtheMETSfan 109
Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright 64
Prince 57
itsmetsforme 53
losangelesmets 53
JohnPeterson 41
MetsfaninVA 24
kendynamo 13
pingel 9
Endys Game 8
Reg Dunlop 2
Ted Simmons Speed Camp 2
anonymous 1
ZaBlanc 1

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what an ugly game

I just got home.

Much better than Thursday’s game in terms of Weather. Much worse in terms of Team Spirit. The Mets were just lifeless out there.

I feel it’s very telling when they get baserunners early in the game and can’t capitalize. Sitting there, you think, “Here we go again.”

2008 was an interesting season. I like this team, but they are fatally flawed. It’s frustrating. Regardless, I’ll be back for more tomorrow and Sunday. Gotta get as much more Shea as possible before it’s gone.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't like it

I mean, obviously I don’t like the situation we’re in in general. But more specifically, I don’t like starting Santana tomorrow.

A) He threw the most pitches on Tuesday that he’s ever thrown in the majors.
B) He’s never made a start in the majors on three days’ rest.
C) Unless Tom Terrific will be ready to go on Sunday but not on Saturday, if we need to win both of these games then we need to win one game that Santana starts and one game that he doesn’t. Why handicap ourselves any more than is already necessary by having Santana start under those circumstances?

Yes, I understand that Saturday’s game is must-win, but Sunday’s is too. This just doesn’t seem logical to me.

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Blowing it

You are right, Josh. Starting Santana on Saturday can flush 2008 down the toilet, and also screw up 2009 and beyond. Santana has been great, but dude’s a human being made from the same meat as everyone else.

by elliot on Sep 27, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I don’t really have anything to add to what you say, Josh. Just the more I’ve thought about it (I’ve pretty much been up all night with sinus pain – yeesh), the worse of an idea it seems. What can we expect, five innings maybe?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHATEVER IT TAKES?

…"WHATEVER IT TAKES certainly doesn’t mean starting Johan on 3 days rest. I’m with you fellas.

Secondly, how on earth do you take the field in such an half-ass attitude after you just came off an exciting win? Are they tired? Do they just not give a damn? They looked completely lethargic. Look, “stats” have their place for proving what a player and/or team is capable of, but in the end, it’s all about ATTITUDE. If ATTITUDE were a batting statistic…Well, we’d be batting .000.

What else can be said? Oh, I know.

FAIL…

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Sep 27, 2008 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

maybe everybody is in a state of deja vu shock, but we all should wake up and tell the truth-this team is pissing on its fans. They came out tonight like they just don’t care. They should be ashamed to collect their paychecks. After the last two years of choke baseball, I am truly embarrassed to be a fan of this team. The true insult is rewarding Omar with a 4 year contract. Wilpon should apologize to the fans for this team. Finally, why is Aaron Heilman being used in the biggest game of the year. Good-bye Jerry

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Sep 27, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

"two years of choke baseball"

This year and last year are altogether different situations. We’ve known all along – YOU’VE been telling us all along – that they’re a flawed team. They’re not choking, they’re just not as good a team as last year or 2006.

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that game

was about as cool as the sun.

by kendynamo on Sep 27, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

This team has reservoirs

of suck that may never be tapped.

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 27, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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