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Open Thread - Game 161: Mets vs Marlins

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Florida Marlins @ New York Mets


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Johan Santana 15-7 33 33 2 1 0 0 225.1 203 74 66 23 60 197 2.64 1.17
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ricky Nolasco 15-7 33 31 1 1 0 0 205.1 187 86 81 28 41 176 3.55 1.11

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Out of our hands . . . just fucking win this win and let’s see what happens.

Let’s Go Mets! Ya Gotta Believe!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 12:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Super positive thread

Good vibes, people. We have the whole offseason to piss and moan. Let’s Go Mets!

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 12:56 PM EDT   0 recs

ha

Maybe you’ve forgotten who you’re dealing with here. Pissing and moaning are the only option.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 1:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe everyone can at least hold off until after the rain delay, anyway.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 1:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fucking rain delay.

I can’t believe Omar couldn’t have done something about this terrible weather. Man, what an incompetent. Paul DePodesta would have used a sophisticated meteorological computer to work out his pitching plan.

… there, that took care of that.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 1:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

let me get back to you on that

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess

One benefit of the rain delay is that Santana is getting closer and closer to pitching on full rest.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Off-topic

Does it bother anyone else that Kelsey Grammer spells his last name with an “e”?

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:40 PM EDT   0 recs

It's a common mistake.

That’s one of the most common misspellings in English, so it just shows he’s not really that different from the rest of us. At least Aaron and Tori have better Spelling.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It bothers me that his hair is nothing like Sideshow Bob's hair.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If it's any consolation

Sideshow Cecil’s hair looks kinda like David Hyde Pierce’s.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK

one inning down. Maybe that rain delay did Johan some good.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 1:52 PM EDT   0 recs

so far so good

If Santana can give us five or six innings, we can’t expect any better.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 1:53 PM EDT   0 recs

mark my words

with this god awful bullpen he will give us more than that

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Sep 27, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Beltran in the two-hole

Delgado batting third.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Woooooooo

Nice start, Jose.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Voltron!

Keep em turning.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 1:57 PM EDT   0 recs

again, so far, so good

They look like they showed up ready to play today.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 1:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Okay

Single, steal, single. Runners on the corners, none out.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Alright

1-0. Nice to get a run in from third. A hit would’ve been nicer, but beggars can’t be choosers.

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT   0 recs

There's one!

Let’s score more than that!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Dub!!

Keep it rolling, Irish Hammer!

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 1:59 PM EDT   0 recs

No DP is better than a DP

S’alright, Hammer. S’alright.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:02 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm here for one last burst of enthusiasm!

However, if any of you are out of town subscribers to “Extra innnings” and like me, can’t see the damn game on account of Faux policy feel free to email me and join my powerful social movement. I plan to spend/waste all my time this winter petitioning MLB to amend this ridiculous policy.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:08 PM EDT   0 recs

i knew you guys would have my back!

careful with those torches though.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My heart goes out to you left-coasters right now

David Wright just made a nice grab to throw out Ramirez to end the top of the 3d.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes and we had to wake up early, oh so early

my tears from last night aren’t even dry

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Santana looks strong

maybe he can put to test this crap that he has to have 4days rest-that he can only go 5 or 6. He’s a stud. A gamer. The best in the game. May prove to be the real bright spot in another disappointing season.

Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Sep 27, 2008 2:12 PM EDT   0 recs

So glad MLB Extra Innings isn't showing this game.

I’d even take the Marlins announcers right now, I’d just mute it.

Fannnnntastic.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:19 PM EDT   0 recs

I have to say

MLB.tv is a great deal, $20 a month and you can watch anything. Well except for the games they black out in your home area. But it’s a great deal for out-of-market fans like meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

y’all are bru-ta-li-zin’…. meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

by Simons on Sep 27, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Run Ronnie, Run.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll just see if I can get a sopcast of it.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

there is a way to get the games i am working on to

TVANTS—is that what a sopcast is?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not completely sure what a sopcast is.

But it is magical.

That’s how I watched Maine’s almost no-hitter last season.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well I'm in the middle of hopefully getting something from this chinese software thing that works sometimes

ah computer literacy would help me so much.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i got it!

it’s about 2 outs behind and looks like there’s cheesecloth on the lens. but….Gary’s dulcet tones

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so mlb is NOT blacking this out on mlbtv?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dub!

Way to flash the leather, son!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Hi folks

Just got in from hitting up the farmers market, didn’t realize they had started because they were delayed when I left. Quick first 3.5 innings.

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Johan's been strong

and, other than the first four batters of the first inning, so has Nolasco.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

welcome

i haven’t eaten breakfast out here in lala land.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice grab by wright

but i’m amazed he hasn’t killed delgado with one of his throws yet. Like Uncle cliffy got hurt.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah me too.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

me too

But I seem to recall that Beltran hates batting second, and I’m concerned that he be happy — as long as Murphy and not the second baseman du jour is the alternative 2-hole hitter.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

which is weird

because he’s got great skills as a #2 hitter and also because he’s GOOD at it – his career OPS in the #2 spot is .924, better than anywhere else in the lineup except 7th/8th (which I assume must’ve been way early in his career with KC and is only 141 combined plate appearances)

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

(with the caveat that lineups don’t really matter much) Beltran’s skills seem like a natural fit for the #2 spot — great on-base ability, real homer power but also constant doubles threat, amazing baserunning (best SB ever!). All that to me adds up to a natural fit in the 2-hole. But, because lineups don’t matter much, I still think it’s more important to keep the dude comfortable and happy with his role.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry

that should read “best SB rate ever!” (obviously).

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

true, as I understand it they don't matter much

maybe he sees better pitches as #2? maybe he’s just trying really hard to show that he’s awesome so that he gets moved back to 3/4/5?

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

refresh my memory

With all the statistical studies (or “the” study) that argue that lineup doesn’t matter, then why don’t they advocate having your four worst hitters hit 1-4? Your best hitters still need to hit more often right? A team like this that often lacks a certain chemistry on offense, I would not take any option off the table.

If Beltran could help the team more in the 2 hole, than I don’t see the argument that he shouldn’t bc he’s not “happy” there.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, the most important thing is the number of ABs

Hitters higher in the lineup sometimes get one more AB late in a game, so they end up getting a couple dozen more ABs over a full season. That’s about the sum total of the lineup’s effect.

by anonymous on Sep 27, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my default assumption is that Belty would

embiggen the team more in the 2 hole with the particular skill he has.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't believe it's "doesn't matter"

I believe it’s “doesn’t matter much”

there’s a piece on this here (note: PDF).

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks

I’ve seen that argument before but. I dunno. I guess I just hold out hope for some magical tweak that would address the way this particular offense goes cold at the same time so often. Isolate the contagion.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

heh

it’s like women who live together

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 3:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We have a picture, gentlemen.

Well, at least I do.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT   0 recs

SHAKE IT OFF HAMMA!

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Drive home the Hammer!

Nice one! Ramon Martinez!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Hammer got winded

He looked like he was finishing a marathon after 220 feet.

But I don’t care as long as he hits…

by mmxii on Sep 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I noticed that

He was running about 1/4 speed half-way down the third base line.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

YES!!!!

RAMON MARTINEZ!

Haha

“Where did you come from, Ramon Martinez?!” – Gary

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Sep 27, 2008 2:47 PM EDT   0 recs

At this rate, Ramon Martinez will be giving a speech tomorrow during the final celebration

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is this the winner's circle?

…just about.

5 innings down, 4 to go.

no access to the game. :-(

by LOUtheMETSfan on Sep 27, 2008 2:54 PM EDT   0 recs

he knows how to iron i shirt, i've heard

and he’s an excellent figure skater

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude prepares a mean steak frites

or so I am told.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ooh

I could go for some steak frites. Too bad he’s busy at the moment.

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if you need help with your geometry homework

dial Beltran’s number.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

iron i shirt?

what the hell is wrong with me.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Johan seems to be tiring no?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 27, 2008 2:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow.

Our lads have not gotten anything called on the corners lately, have they?

Thankfully, it ended up not mattering. But still. Yeesh.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT   0 recs

I've been saying for a while

I don’t have any proof for this, but I think we’ve been getting hosed by the umps since that game where Jerry got tossed and then the ump had to apologize afterwards because he bumped Jerry first

by JoshNY on Sep 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i whole heartedly agree

they had to institute instant replay at the league level just to protect the mets!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself in to trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on