New York Mets @ Milwaukee Brewers GameThread, Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Oliver Perez	9-7	28	28	0	0	0	0	161.1	134	78	70	21	84	146	3.90	1.35

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Dave Bush	9-9	25	24	0	0	0	0	153.0	137	76	70	23	35	94	4.12	1.12

Let's go Mets!

Sweep these bastids.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 12:57 PM EDT 0 recs

Heck yeah!

A win today would be some pretty sweet icing going into the weekend. If not, still a good roadie but, then again, SWEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 1:18 PM EDT 0 recs

Sweep the leg!

Or whatever. Ollie needs win #10.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Put 'em in a body bag!

Yeaaahhhhh!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

it's official:

The Mets’ bullpen stinks because they lack “heart.”

…in games decided after the sixth inning (meaning the score was tied after six, or the lead changed): Phillies 31-15, Mets 11-22. Nobody we’ve talked to thinks that stat is an aberration.
“One part of it, obviously, is the difference in bullpens,” one scout said. “But the other part of it is heart. I love the Phillies’ grit. And now that [Jimmy] Rollins is hitting again, they’re the team to beat again.”

Jayson Stark collects unattributed stretch-run bullshit from sources around the league

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 1:21 PM EDT 0 recs

Aww, c'mon. These are quantifiable stats.

I think I saw this on BaseballReference.com, but I lost the link. Anyway, here are the comparative head-to-head HGPs (Heart and Grit Percentage) for the Phillies and the Mets in 2008:

Heart Grit Clutchitude Gamerness Intangible Overall HGP NL Rank
Phillies: .860 .932 .787 .855 .908 .892 1/16
Mets: .530 .608 .136 .098 .338 .356 16/16
As you can see, the Mets really get killed in the last three categories. Carlos Beltran really drags a lot of these numbers down with all those early RBI and runs scored. The Mets would have been helped out alot with their HGP if they had acquired players like David Eckstein and Darin Erstad before the deadline, but they really blew that by going with non-HGP all-stars like Jose Reyes and Beltran instead. The Mets will require serious upgrades in gamerness and pastiness this offseason and should look to shed Beltran, Reyes, Delgado and all of their current second basemen.

I mean, scathing, right? But the numbers don’t lie.

/snark

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

I would have thought that the continued benching of Castro in favor of Schneider would at least put the Mets’ Intangibles somewhere above the bottom of the field. Oh, but I always forget: HGP doesn’t use the team’s Articulate Interview Factor in its calculation. That’s why I like to use the Gamerness Above Replacement Player metric instead — quotes like that one look a lot more sensible when you look at the league according to GARP.

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

A bit

I think the author noted elsewhere in the piece that the Mets lost serious HGP points for failing to continue to play Schneider while he was injured earlier in the season. That a serious deduction in gamerness.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

You are leaving out the most important

GWLIOT (Game Winning Leaving It On the Field) (Pronounced ‘gwuh-lee-ott’) It is an older version of Gamerness Above Replacement. Jimmy Rollins won it 150 times in 2007. That’s why all those old-fogeys in the writers association voted him MVP. Dub only hit that 12 times.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hah

Pastiness. I love it.

by Eric Simon on Sep 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

Pastiness

It’s one of those quantifiably unquantifiable intangibles. Perhaps the Mets should look to cut Beltran in favor of Aaron Rowand for a quick fix upgrade in this category.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

I miss the old days...

…when you could just call some guy a gamer and leave it at that. You stat-heads are taking all the fun out of baseball.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm Going to Two Games This Month

1. Saturday against the Phillies. (Last game with brother at Shea)
2. Thursday, Sept. 25 vs. the Cubs. (Last game at Shea for me.)

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT 0 recs

the Irish Hammer can't stop hitting

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT 0 recs

Because he can't? He won't? He don't stop?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

He keeps on. And he don't stop.

Daniel Murphy come and rock the sure shot.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

I hate when the Mets play the Brewers

getting the “welcome back, Kotter” theme song every time someone hits the ball to centerfield. Damn you, John Sebastian!

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT 0 recs

My brother's smack talk in our fantasy league:

“I hope Delclutcho knows it’s already the playoffs in fantasy baseball.”

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Geez, Carlos D

Slow down, buddy! I can’t keep up with all the driving in of runs!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:14 PM EDT 0 recs

hey friends

by goth brooks on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT 0 recs

CHURCH ON WEDNESDAY!

by goth brooks on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT 0 recs

Beltran's HGP Rating Just Keeps Dropping

A four-pitch walk? What crap. Jimmy Rollins would have done the same thing in three.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT 0 recs

I think his HGP dropped

because he failed to make an out there. Early hits, runs and walks just drag your clutchness down.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

IT'S GONE!

I didn’t even know you could get a salami from a Church!

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT 0 recs

WHAT IN THE CRAP!?

I looked away for a second to do some work and WOW!

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT 0 recs

holy shit

A five-spot in the first. Woo!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT 0 recs

Awesome.

If they can tack on three or four more, Ollie can leave after five and let Carlos Muniz close the game out. Yeah!

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT 0 recs

Schneider!?!?!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs

I know.

They are hungry for the sweep. Batting around feels good.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

wow

OFF THE SCHEID?

by goth brooks on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs

holy crap!

A few more of those and I may have to start calling Schneider’s talent “tangible”!

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs

Now the Schneid?!?

This is too much.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs

Dave Bush sucks donkey balls

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT 0 recs

New rule

If Brian Schneider takes you deep, you have to do a 3 year stint in the Mexican league, or Japan as a penance for your sins to the baseball gods.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

me thinks the natives are growing restless

is it almost miller time for brewers fans?

by goth brooks on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT 0 recs

is it ever not Miller time for these people?

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

Only when they're chewing

Brats need attention, too.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Polish. Sausage.

I think I’m having a heartytack.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thanks Ollie

Way to start the game out strong.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT 0 recs

He's trying hard

to, uh, keep things interesting?

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

School is out for the day!

And the Mets are already up 6-0!
This is great!!!

The only downside is I’ll have to listen to Wayne Hagin on the ride home.
Let’s go Ollie!

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Six runs might not be enough

If we’ve got the Bad Ollie today…

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM EDT 0 recs

No kidding

Ollie’s such a head case.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

what's the consensus around here

as to whether or not there should be an attempt to re-sign him after this season? i vote “no”.

by goth brooks on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

it really depends entirely on the price tag

For $11M/yr, yes. For $16M, no.

by anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Agree

Only if the price is right.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

I say no

He will want to much and is too inconsistent

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's the big problem

Even for 11mil, his ‘human slot machine’ act gets old over the whole season. However, if he can pitch a couple gems in the playoff (and/or during the stretch run,) (KNOCK WOOD) he may be worth keeping. He did pitch well in 06.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

I got these numbers at home

Ollie’s numbers against the NL East are pretty decent the last two years, especially against the stupid Phillies. Not saying it’s worth $15 mil a year for that but it is something to look at when considering his worth to the team.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

You don't have a home

We all know you live in your car.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wish

There’s too much stuff in the trunk and backseat so now I’m sleeping on your stoop. Look underneath the bench when you get home tonight. The commute is a bitch but the price is good.

'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 3, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up 0 recs