Amazin' Avenue: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: RSL Soapbox for Real Salt Lake Fans!

"During tonight’s Hot Stove show on the MLB Network, SI.com’s Jon Heyman said the Mets offered free-agent LHP Oliver Perez a three-year deal, ‘worth close to $30 million.’"

Eric's take:

Interesting. I had read last week that Minaya favored Perez even though almost everyone else fancied Derek Lowe, but I didn't realize he liked him so much that he'd throw an offer out there. I think Perez will be about as quick to accept this deal as Lowe was to accept the 3/$36 million deal the Mets offered him (which was rebuffed and whose very existence has been denied by Scott Boras).

Clearly, Minaya is not content to lose both Lowe and Perez, so he now (reportedly) has offers on the table for each. Who knows where Boras will take this.

10 months ago Tiny supermets 27 comments 0 recs  | 

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Trying to get the discount package deal?

Well at least we know the bottom numbers, I guess.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 12, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

signing them both is fine with me

anything to make sure we’ve see the last of brian friggin lawrence.

by kendynamo on Jan 12, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he on the Braves?

or something

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jan 13, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to b-ref

he signed with KC a year ago, and then dropped off the face of the earth. Which is probably standard for guys who sign with the Royals.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 13, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what game is being played by omar

But I like it.

I’m trying to wrap my head around where this puts Boras.

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jan 12, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boy-o-boy...

Let the rambling commense. I feel like we’re about to be inundated so much free agent information/rumor/conjecture/punditry in the next few days concerning Perez and Lowe that it will be like drinking from a charged fire hose. I’m ready…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 12, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have an idea

Let’s pay a player twice what he’s worth over 3 years, giving up our potential first round draft pick and the money to sign useful players.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jan 12, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Personally speaking

I’m willing to give Omar the benefit of the doubt for the time being. I don’t pretend to know what he’s trying to work out here, but I’ll wait until things reveal themselves a bit more.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

any chance omar is trying to put pressure on lowe?

that could be the motivation behind the offer…3 years/less than $30 mil is not really a serious offer considering that perez wants something closer to 5 years/$70 mil.

i wouldn’t mind perez coming back for three more years, but the money would be better spent on lowe.

by englishgrey on Jan 12, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it is

But I don’t think Omar’s cagey enough to play that game, especially since both pitchers are repped by the same agent.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 13, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

God, I hate Perez.

Stories like this make some stupid fans think Omar only likes Latin players.

by squid92 on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I still don't get it.

Is Ollie the second coming of Koufax? No. But is he still a solid pitcher? Yes. I understand he’s going to get overpaid, but most MLB players are overpaid. Especially 27 year old LH pitchers with decent stats.

I really think this handwringing over the possibility of the Mets resigning Perez is getting a bit ridiculous.

by SQUAD on Jan 13, 2009 2:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i agree

i think the team will be pretty competitive with perez…he’s great as a fourth starter if pelf and maine can hold down the second and third spots in the rotation.

i don’t think he’s going to turn a corner and become consistent enough to become an ace, but i think he’s shown over the last two years that he’s not going to revert to his 5.00+ ERA years. whether the current version of perez is worth $10 mil per season is debatable, but he’s certainly not going to hurt the team if signed

by englishgrey on Jan 13, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Signing Perez doesn't hurt the team

But allowing Lowe to go to our division rival and “replacing” him with Perez does. It hurts a lot. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Braves close the gap in division standing projections. It’s not that no one wants Perez, it’s that no one wants him over someone like Sheets or Lowe. Especially when the difference between him and guys like Garland and Wolf is pretty small and allowing Ollie to walk will net us draft picks.

by Gina on Jan 13, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's fine.

But then say that. It seems to me that some here want Lowe or Sheets so badly that they end up denigrating Perez. It is possible to state a preference for one player without tearing down another.

by SQUAD on Jan 13, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

everyone thought that last year too, though

with Glavine back, a “healthy” Smoltz, a “healthy” Hudson, and a “healthy” Hampton. Hopefully Lowe ends up just as healthy as the rest of them…

by cjmulrain on Jan 13, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like that

I really, really like that.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 13, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perez would be stupid not to take the offer

He just got a gift from the worst talent evaluator this side of Kansas City.
For $4M, Omar will waste two draft picks, pay Perez close to 2 times what he’s worth, and lose a good pitcher to a division rival. This is specifically Omar’s idiocy, we are told, because his staff appears to have some brains of sorts.

I think it’s a pipe dream to suppose that these are shrewd negotiations. Omar is an OK negotiator, but he never really drives hard bargains and usually pays close to market value for what he wants—note that he slightly overestimated the K-Rod market. This is the guy who gave us Luis Castillo, recall, and it seems little has changed. Omar lowballed Lowe and gave a gift to Perez because he is interested in Perez and only wants to look interested in Lowe. He is not pretending to suck. He sucks.

by JobiJoba on Jan 13, 2009 4:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Start posting about the Mets »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Axolotl_small
Jose Valentin
Axolotl_small
Castillo for Snyder?
Small
AAOP - It's Late, But Still Good
Small
AAOP: A new outlook...
Me_go_mets_small
AAOP: Just get Pujols
Small
AAOP: Supplementing the Core
Small
AAOP
The_buddha_by_lord_karsus_small
Grissionometer
Misc_007_small
Madoff, Backman, and an Old Baseball Jacket
Images-1_small
AAOP. The Way to fix the mets roster without causing to much damage to their minors system (batting)

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

Marty Noble: Glavine Claims Young Mets Weren't Offended By Losing
WAR analysis of AAOPs

Recent FanShots

No Matt Holliday or Jason Bay apparently means Adrian Gonzalez
Wallace Matthews says Mets should look to 2011
This idea looks familar
LoDuca seeking work
AFL: Havens continues to rake
Nick Evans catching in the bullpen plus a little bit of BP. I think I am a bit generous about his...
Marty Noble has no idea what Sabermetrics are.
Kottaras Waived, Claimed
Is it really that tough to play in New York?
Scott Moviel AFL video

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

Sponsors


THE BIG GUY

Aa_avatar_small Eric Simon

THE INCREDIBLES

Blackfish2_small Alex Nelson

Cj_small Sam Page

Best_infield_ever_small James Kannengieser

THE NEWS GURU

Wrightfront_small Joe Budd

THE POET LAUREATE

Hamheadshot__1__small Howard Megdal