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Let's go meta: Welcome to Amazin' Avenue

The Amazin' Avenue community certainly has grown a lot in recent months. I'd like to welcome new members to the fold. It's a great place to talk baseball and root for the New York Metropolitans.

One thing that makes this site great is a relatively high level of intelligent, rational discussion. I contend that we should not lose sight of things that have made this site a very nice place to visit for just about four years now.

With that, I offer a few guidelines for all members:

Take your time when writing stories, FanPosts, FanShots, comments, etc. Not only is it good to have thought through what you're saying, but it helps to format, spell, and punctuate your thoughts properly. We're not animals, we're gentlemen (and at least a few ladies), so please write like a gentleman or lady.

Conventions to be avoided at all costs:

  • Writing "LOL."
  • Emoticons.
  • Internet-style spellings of any common words (please write "you," not "u"; "are," not "r").
  • Multiple use of exclamation points or question marks (i.e., !!! or ???).
  • Exclamation points in general.
  • Any words written all in capital letters. There's a bold function for that.
  • Links to Internet petitions.
  • Pasting URLs that are not actual links (please don't be that lazy).
  • Posting whole URLs instead of linking the URL in text.
  • Poor punctuation.
  • Use of ellipses (a.k.a., dot-dot-dot, or "...") instead of real punctuation.
  • Unnecessary abbreviation.
  • Name-calling (don't feed the trolls).
  • Overuse of pictures in the comments (I know it's subjective, but please see what you can do).

A look at Eric's excellent front-page writing should serve as a basic guideline for the standards here. And you can find some tips on formatting over at the SBNation parent site.

Finally, when you report on something, provide a link to it. This is a reality-based community: if claims are made, we want to know by whom and from where they come. That way we can evaluate their value and legitimacy.

I'm not writing this meta piece to be the police here--usually we do a decent job of policing ourselves. Please just bear these items in mind when posting anything.

I look forward to additional guidelines, ideas, corrections, or anything I may have overlooked in the comments.

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Looks like a good run-down to me.

Not to sound too curmudgeonly but, uh, death to text/l33t-speak. I used to think that practicing law was how I got my nerd on, but it is starting to appear that language/grammar is where I really excel at expressing my inner Poindexter.

One comment: “unnecessary abbreviation”? Does this mean that you want folks to avoid writing, say, “LF” in place of “left field,” or is it that you want folks to avoid writing “WTF” when a simple “what the fuck” would suffice?

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 14, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No, both of those abbreviations are fine.

They are pretty standard, especially “LF” on a baseball site.

I’m thinking more along the lines of “yr” for “your,” or “yrs” for “years,” or anything else that trips up a reader for no real reason.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean, @#$% the heck!?

Yeah, that’s acceptable.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF LOL... u cant tell me to uze less imgs...
I look forward to additional guidelines, ideas, corrections, or anything I may have overlooked in the comments.

1 thing u overlooked… this post is going to get a lot of joke comments…

Srsly, thanks for posting this (and rec’d). The influx of new blood is great to see, but the last thing any of us wants is for this place to become an unreadable mixture of brazen illiteracy and unsupported opinion. We already have Metsblog for that. A minimal standard of coherent writing and reasoned argument is what makes this place different from (better than) the average sports blog.

by anonymous on Jan 14, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

"seriously"

Thanks, anonymous.

Catsmeat, another good example of an unnecessary abbreviation is “srsly.”

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

o rly?

k, thx 4 the correction.

by anonymous on Jan 14, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

where are they?

the joke comments, i mean. I expected more.

I guess we all have our personal preferences but how can a “reality based community” eschew hilarious kitty pictures, or pictures of celebrities with similar names to baseball players we are discussing? I don’t see it.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying no pictures at all--they are funny in plenty of instances.

I’m saying: Let’s not overdo it.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Received.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think the exceptions to all these rules should be that

you make break them as long as you’re funny. or at least amusing. i think they are all good rules tho, just dont think we should overdo it.

by kendynamo on Jan 14, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree w/you wholeheartedly

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow! (The word wow does warrant an exclamation)

That is the first time you have made me laugh anonymous.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I also recommend

adding the difference between a FanShot and a FanPost, although, it is Eric’s site so I’m not sure what his stance is.

by Sokojoe on Jan 14, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good call.

Eric seems to be pretty consistent in pointing out when a FanPost would be more appropriate as a FanShot. I would add “and vice versa” to the previous sentence but, uh, I have not actually seen that situation occur.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 14, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

FanShots should be used for quick thoughts, links, images, videos and quotes. Anything shorter than a couple of paragraphs should go here.

FanPosts are the community equivalent of front page posts. If you don’t think what you’re writing would be suitable to publish on the front page, you probably shouldn’t write it. This isn’t to say that your style or approach has to be consistent with what we put on the front page, but the cogency, length and attention to detail certainly should be.

by Eric Simon on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

do these rules go out the window on game threads? I discovered this site at the very end of last season, and only participated in one game thread, but I’ve been doing game threads over at the Giants SBN blog since last season, and while I think my grammar is decent enough under normal circumstances (though I am guilty of using elipses…), it pretty much goes out the window when something good or bad happens. I can’t promise there won’t be some of these this year:

WTF OLLIE YOU M-F’er, WHY DID YOU WALK THE BASES LOADED AND LAY A FAT ONE DOWN THE PIPE TO PUJOLS, YOU SUCKTASTIC POS.

by cjmulrain on Jan 14, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You're right, game threads are a little bit of a different story

There are plenty of times during games when caps or exclamation points might be warranted. (And I’m sure I’ve printed plenty of them myself during games.)

But in all honesty, if game threads were filled with comments that read like your example above, I might stop coming here entirely.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

if they were filled like the above comment, I’d stop following the Mets, period. But that was an exaggeration, for effect.

by cjmulrain on Jan 14, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand

Just trying to illustrate my point.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the man diffference between this blog and BBV

is the level of cowardice between the two communities, with BBVers having it in far greater abundance, specifically with the older members. there are also a lot more space balls references here.

by kendynamo on Jan 14, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Having seen those discussions on BBV...

I really have no idea what you’re talking about with regards to “cowardice.”

by JoshNY on Jan 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i find it cowardly to give up on plax

he is a great man that deserves better. i didnt expect such a comment to chafe with the other readers there so badly.

by kendynamo on Jan 15, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, two things

A) Great player, sure. “Great man”? That’s pretty badly misphrased.
B) How is that “cowardly”? I don’t see what you mean by that and neither does anyone on BBV.

Sorry everyone else – this is clearly off topic.

by JoshNY on Jan 15, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

plax is a great man because of his playoff and SB heroics

in real life he is probably a miserable bastard. im pretty much just joking about that one. re: B) its cowardly to me to see people cut and run on a player that has given so much to the giants and the fans. hes an idiot yes but its not selfishness. he trains hard and works hard for the games. he just hasnt grasped the concept of a holster yet.

its like if you were on an elite sales team that brought in millions of dollars in business a year. a guy on your team goes to a club and get in trouble before a big sales pitch. you could tell him hes selfish and not a team player, or you could stick by him, support him and then when hes gets everything straightened out, welcome him back and enjoy a stronger sales team.

do i really think the BBV commentors are “cowards”? no, i dont know any of them personally. do i find it cowardly fan behavior, yes? but im not trying to troll anyone over there. its not a personal attack against anyone. theres just a big difference in sense of humor over there. i think its a generational thing.

anyway, i still think Ed and Jim do great job covering the g-men, regardless of their misguided opinions of #17.

by kendynamo on Jan 15, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

I agree with your stance about Plax (which I think not a lot of Giants fans do) but I also agree with the folks at BBV that that word “cowardly” doesn’t mean what you’re using it to mean.

by JoshNY on Jan 15, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I sure could have used this list when I entered the fray.

I’m willing to bet 99.99% of AA bloggers would agree.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

KingC. Do you have a suitable replacement for LOLing?

Man, there are some funny people writing on this blog and they make me laugh quite a bit. If I want to share how they made me feel in response to one of their responses, what is the approved method of LOLing?

Is it: Ha! Haha! Hahaha!
Or: “Chuckle”, “Giggle”, “Laughing”

How can we express ourselves other than “+1”?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm.

I prefer “hahaha.”

Or maybe even, “That made me laugh out loud/quietly to myself.”

But I’m open to suggestions here. I just hate the pervasive el-oh-el (so much that I can’t even bring myself to type it).

+1 is OK, although it could easily get overused/tired. So watch out for that.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

“hahaha” better than LOL? Well, that sounds personal and totally nit picky, but the dude abides. I have heard that LOL has truly gotten on peoples nerves. Not on just this blog either.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ROFLWTIME

(rolling on the floor laughing with tears in my eyes)

by James Kannengieser on Jan 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of posting "+1"

you could click the Actions button and actually give a +1.

by JoshNY on Jan 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

These rules are unfair!

Why can’t I type the way I think? As a member of the Pepsi Generation, I feel discriminated against.

"The people of Houston are spending money like oil's selling at $40 a barrel."

by IanB in MD on Jan 14, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As a member of generation X

I’m basically too lazy to type a reply that would either funny or relevant.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man that was even an old scholl sega Harry was holding. Not even a Genesis.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 15, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How about horrible misspellings due to lack of proof reading, like Scholl? instead of school.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 15, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you're fired.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 15, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

(bowing head in shame)

Sorry.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 15, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Apologizing isn't going to cut it either.

Believe me, I’ve tried.

" Where I'm from, throwing up in your mouth is affectionately known as a mustard burp. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 15, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HEY GUYS

wut is sabr????

Who's world is it? It's yours.

by BlackOps on Jan 14, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

God that was scary.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what kind of man Popeye is.

(It begun with a bloody “s”!)

by JoshNY on Jan 14, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Top-Down Changes

We kindly ask users write “Metropolitans” for “Mets” in the future, and “City Field” for “CitiField.” Simply because Management relies on the crutches of abbreviation, neologism, and portmanteau is no reason for us to debase ourselves in a similar fashion.

I did it like this / I did it like that / I did it with a Wiffle Ball bat

by Doc Manhattan on Jan 14, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ahahahahahahahaha

Beautiful.
Sweet avatar btw.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet as in cool.

Not as in cute.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

“btw”? Sir, mind your decorum! We have the good name of “Amazing Avenue” to uphold.

Seriously, I’m all for proper English—I taught the subject for five years—but: “All things in moderation, including moderation.”

(The avatar is from today’s installment of The Dugout.)

I did it like this / I did it like that / I did it with a Wiffle Ball bat

by Doc Manhattan on Jan 14, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

moderation in moderation: I'm all for it

I’m just trying to get some general guidelines in place before things get out of control here.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 14, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Proactiveness

DHS. The government could use people like you.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 14, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

IN BED!!!

(would that be frowned on, for example)

by squid92 on Jan 20, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 20, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is "That what she said" ok to use

or TWSS

"I'm an escaped car thief. I broke out of prison to see the Cubs in the World Series." - James Belushi in Taking Care of Business (1990)

by brownbuddha on Jan 18, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Go with "That's what she said"

But only when appropriate, and by that I mean only when it is totally inappropriate.

by Eric Simon on Jan 18, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hardee har har... mission accomplished!

I can imagine a newbie reading this thread with a genuine interest in bettering themselves and their world wide of webs performance, and being left instead bewildered and even more confused, not just about this blog or internet use, but about communication in general. I love it.

LMAO ZEDONG!
to chaos!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 25, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Laughing out loudly!

Why is it that I think I’ve hit the nail on the head when I think to myself that the one word that would accurately describe you would be: Schadenfreude.

I look forward to more of your comments come baseball season. It’s at this point that I would insert an emoticon, however, I’m trying to live up to AA standards. Good day friend.

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 25, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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