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Mets Miss Out On Manny Rodriguez, 2009 Postseason Dreams Dashed

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! All these years I've dreamed of the day when Manny Rodriguez would finally wear Mets pinstripes and/or a silly black jersey. Now, per MSNBC, that day may never come. Today we mourn.

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Quality Control. None to be had.

Almost blog like, no?

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 25, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Blog-like?

That’s an insult to bloggers. I haven’t seen Eric refer to Manny Rodriguez until today.

by Alex Nelson on Jan 25, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Nooooooo!!!!

Forget quality control; how about some freaking common sense? That story is on their sports page – doesn’t anyone in MSNBC’s sports department know anything about baseball? Unfortunately, they’ve already fixed the story, and the headline’s been truncated.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 25, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

For the most part

I’ve given up on seeing anything in the newspaper or on web sites that even hints of being perfectly edited. To err is human but what I’ve seen in the past couple of years is down right pathetic. There seems to be a serious lack of pride amongst writers and/or their editors, regardless of the subject matter.

I can now appreciate what so many here at AA have been trying to push forth. Better overall writing.

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 25, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wherever Manny Rodriguez is right now

He can’t be too happy to hear this because it takes away a big bargaining chip. But, hey, at least the Mets can now turn their attention to Adam Dorn, Ben Shorts or Oliver Parvez or whatever other players still out there who can help the team in 2009.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 25, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be fine with any of those players

Just as long as we don’t have to give trade Martino Fernandez, I really think M-Fart is going to be a stud one day.

by Mark Himmelstein on Jan 25, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

so long Man-Rod

wow that is a terrible nickname for a non-existent player. maybe they meant this guy. if so i’m glad we’re not interested because he’d be 47 this season.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jan 25, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Manny

It is impossible to sign Manny and keep under the luxury tax theshold in 2009
It would be worse in 2010 when the Mets would have to resign or replace four starting pitchers and three starting position players, the entire bench, and at least five members of the bullpen with little money coming off the books.

If the Mets could sign Manny for $20 million in 2009 and $25 million in 2010, the only way they could do it and remain under the luxury tax threshold in 2009; 2010 would be impossible.

In 2010:
Santana’s salary is up $1.00 million. MANNY’s salary is up $5.00 million.
Jose Reyes’ salary is up $3.25 million. David Wright’s salary is up $2.50 million.
K-Rods salary is up $3.00 million. JJ Putz’s salary is up $3.60 million.

Without replacing Delgado and Schneider, this offsets Delgado’s 12million, Schneider’s 5.4 million, Wagners 7 million, and Schoeneweis’s 1.6 million coming off the books.

Signing Manny would force a downgrading the starting rotaion in 2009 by replacing Pedro Martinez and Oliver Perez with Tim Redding and Freddy Garcia. With Manny the 2009 starting rotation would be Santan, Maine, Pelfrey, Redding and Garcia with Neise and Figueroa at AAA, a position worse than the beginning of 2008. Not signing Manny would allow the Mets to have a rotaion of Santana, (Perez or Sheets), Pelfrey, Maine, and Redding with Garcia, Neise, and Figueroa in reserve at AAA.

Signing Manny would prohibit any improvement to starting pitching again in 2010. Then, the Mets would have to replace Redding (3.0 mil) and Garcia (8.0 mil) as free agents once again. In addition Mike Pelfey – a Scott Boras client – is up for arbitration along with John Maine again. The Mets would be hard pressed to maintain their downgraded starting pitching next year.

Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider will have to be replaced or resign at higher money plus Ryan Church, Angel Pagan, and Jeremy Reed in arbitration. The rest of the bench and the bullpen will have to resigned or replaced. Manny is a financial vacuum cleaner sucking every potentially available dollar into his wallet and away from other improvements.

by vern on Jan 25, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That's great

But what about Manny Rodriguez? He’d provide all of Manny Ramirez’s offense at a fraction of the price.

by Eric Simon on Jan 25, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You know

I wasn’t sure if this comment was about Manny Ramirez or Manny Rodriguez.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 25, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

How can he demand a huge contract when he’s a complete unknown?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 25, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

and/or doesn't exist?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jan 25, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

On the bright side

I believe MSNBC is reporting that Tuuu Timp is considering signing with the Mets.

by Reg Dunlop on Jan 25, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

Oh man

It would be great to have him back in the fold – he was totally underappreciated last time around

by Joamiq on Jan 26, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

manny

stop being idiots, yeah the dude is an awesome right handed bat…when he wants to play, but we don’t need that problem. I’m honestly really sick of a bunch of young dudes who know nothing about baseball except for playing fantasy sports and watching it bitching that we “need” manny…..we have an awesome team, we had a lame duck manager and a lot of pitching woes lastyear. there’s no reason not to believe that with another start signed and the solid bullpen omar has put together that this line up can’t win. please, SHUT UP, we don’t need any cancers on this team, not getting manny isn’t the end of the world. Grat right handed bat, again he sure is, but a pain in the ass, definitely….if we did sign him, I"d deal with it, but understand that this team can win, stop being a bunch of fantasy playing whiners and believe in your team

by GD on Jan 25, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Again, I must ask

Are you talking about Manny Rodriguez? Because that’s who we’re talking about. Manny. Rodriguez. Man-Rod.

by Eric Simon on Jan 25, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

Man-Rod is an excellent nickname. For a porn actor.

by JoshNY on Jan 26, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Or a ballplayer

And by “ballplayer” I mean “one who plays with balls”.

by Eric Simon on Jan 26, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Will the debate of Man-Ram v Man-Rod never end?

We’re gonna see families torn apart before this things ends.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 26, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

then pull your chair up to uncle Joe

i’m sure there’s lots more where that came from.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 26, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I can hear the music in the background

“Start spreadin’ the news, I’m leavin today…”

Ahhh. The good ol’ days in Yankeeland. Joe “Nothing but Class” Torre. Well, we’ll see, won’t we?

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 26, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It's called sarcasm.

Look into it.

"But it's not over yet, everybody thinks it over, but if we can just get the Earth to reverse rotation...this thing can be played again. So there you go, New York Mets......motherf*ckers." - Jon Stewart

by pingel on Jan 26, 2009 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

ok i've looked it up, this sarcasm

but i still have nothing. Can someone help?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 26, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Anagrams

Are the Mets really choke artists? http://morehardball.blogspot.com/2009/01/arm-sag-anagrams.html

We Should Be GM's @ http://pabaseball.blogspot.com
More Hardball @ http://morehardball.blogspot.com

by GMCarson on Jan 26, 2009 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

Linguists do it cunningly.

What do you get when you reärrange the letters in “Off-topic shilling for my site”?

I did it like this / I did it like that / I did it with a Wiffle Ball bat

by Doc Manhattan on Jan 26, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Promote filching lift ossify

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 26, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

debaters do it masterfully

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jan 26, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

"september collapse"

=CBs pop, Sell team
where CB obviously stands for Carlos Beltran

what could this mean?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 26, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

wow i worked pretty hard on that one too

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jan 26, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Slow day in L.A. L.A. land?

I think the vast majority are ready for baseball to just hurry up and begin. I know I am.

" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 27, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It could be worse...

We might have gotten Alex Ramirez (all too real…see below) instead:

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=34953

This guy hit 23 batters in 106 innings…one hopes they play “Wild Thing” when he goes out to pitch.

by erich10031 on Jan 27, 2009 2:21 AM EST reply actions  

We spotted this over at The Good Phight, too. I was going to save the screencap as “manrod.jpg” but then balked at the thought of being on the receiving end of so many questionable Google Image searches.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jan 27, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Smart

Then again, some percentage of those searchers were bound to be Phillies fans.

by Eric Simon on Jan 27, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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