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Derek Lowe Watch, Day 74

Scott Boras and Derek Lowe met with the Braves yesterday, who apparently made Lowe an offer in the wake of John Smoltz leaving for Boston. Terms of the offer haven't been disclosed, though in the same article we learn that Boras has claimed there to be no three-year, $36 million offer on the table from the Mets. This contradicts several published reports that have indicated otherwise, so either those reports were all wrong or Boras is merely carrying on in one of his customary games of subterfuge.

We haven't heard a peep out of the Mets since their (alleged) original offer, and for good reason. Until now, there was literally no competition for Lowe's services, despite whispers from various circles about the Phillies' and Red Sox' purported interest. Can the Braves really have offered a deal in excess of $12 million a year? I wouldn't have thought so, but if they really have made an offer, and the Mets really have made their reported offer, then I can't imagine the Braves stepping up to the table with anything less than 3/$36. What would be the point of offering less, unless they thought Lowe preferred Atlanta over all other comers, and there have been no indications to this point that he does.

We'll assume that the Braves have offered at least the same $12 million per for the same three years as the Mets. I think the Mets would be willing to outbid any similar offer, though they are attuned to the subtle but important distinction between outbidding and overbidding. Lowe originally wanted five years and $16 million per year, but his market value is looking more like three years and $14 million, and I suspect the Mets could go at least that high. Whether they like Lowe enough (and enough more than Oliver Perez) to guarantee a fourth year or more money annually is still to be determined. At all events, I think we'd all just like to see this get wrapped up sooner rather than later so we can drop one variable from the Mets' offseason equation.

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Panda Watch Derek Lowe Watch, Day 74. This is as close as I can get to the negotiations. I tried to get a closer view, but they told me ‘No, Scott Boras will literally rip your head off’.

"When the little children start to speak they once said 'Mama' and 'Papa', but with the fans we got they say the first thing, 'Metsie, Metsie, Metsie'." - Casey Stengel

by Prince on Jan 9, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah

I hate Boras. That “if the Mets knew that the Braves knew that the Mets offered” business made me think of the Princess Bride:

But it’s so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy’s? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

Does that mean that Derek Lowe is like poisoned wine? Potentially…

by mmxii on Jan 9, 2009 1:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at it this way:

If Scott Boras is Fezzini, then he’s about to accidentally kill himself.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 9, 2009 11:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say we sign Lowe...

I saw on MLBTR that if the Yanks sign Juan Cruz they would only have to give up a 4th rounder, due to their free agent splurge.

If we signed Lowe, coupled with our signing of KRod, what would we have to give up to get Cruz? At that point, if it is something like a 3rd rounder, wouldn’t it make sense to sign Cruz? I think a pen with Cruz, Putz, and KRod at the end of games would be insane.

What does everyone else think?

by SQUAD on Jan 9, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rankings

Francisco Rodriguez: 87.196
Juan Cruz: 76.627
Derek Lowe: 75.430

Were the Mets to sign them all, the Angels would get the Mets’ first round pick, the Diamondbacks would get their second and the Dodgers would get their third.

Manny Ramirez: 94.438
Orlando Hudson: 79.911

All per Elias Rankings at The USA Today.

by Eric Simon on Jan 9, 2009 12:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Elias Rankings are Weird

I know Juan Cruz is an awesome reliever but the fact that he’s somehow ranked higher than Lowe is insanity.

by Gina on Jan 9, 2009 1:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

Omar is still focused on bringing Chad Cordero in here.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 9, 2009 1:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even with Cordero...

…that would only be three closers. Still need three more. Too bad Hoffman and Fuentes are off the market now.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jan 9, 2009 1:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CRUZ WOULD BE NICE

I think that if we get Lowe you won’t see any other big names. We need one more LH bullpen arm. Then we go after our backup IF and then we look at another big bat (Manny anyone). The only reason he hasn’t taken a deal from the Dodgers is because Omar called him and told him to be patient.

by NCbillzfan55 on Jan 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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