Reyes Hamstring Applesauce - Reyes has torn hamstring, Mets give Rivera token, K-Rod is not good
by Joe Budd on Oct 1, 2009 11:48 AM EDT
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Last off-day before a really long one. I, for one, can't wait for this team to stop their assault on good baseball. The only problem is that when they stop, this clown show is going to try and fix the team.
Meet the Mets
Jose Reyes has a torn hammy and will likely need surgery. Seriously, I wouldn't trust the Mets' medical staff with a Little League team.
People are apparently pretty angry that the Mets sent Mariano Rivera the pitching rubber from his 500th save. This just seems like common decency to me.
Mets Police jumps the shark saying we need a new shortstop.
Why would we re-sign Alex Cora when Wilson Valdez seems to get the job done better?
Fire Jerry Manuel puts together some nice charts about Francisco Rodriguez's suckiness.
Metstradamus wants a refund for all the money he spent traveling to DC to see this team. Caveat emptor.
Reese Havens and Lucas Duda will join the Mets Arizona Fall League.
Blue and Orange puts together a plan for the Mets' catching situation.
Around the NL East
I open my big fat mouth about the Braves and they go out and promptly lose the next two games. They lost this last one in pretty amazing fashion as well. Ricky Nolasco had 16 strike outs.
The result of the Braves latest loss and the Phillies win is Philadelphia's 3rd straight NL East title.
Philadelphia is going to continue on without Jamie Moyer.
Marlins' prospect Osvaldo Martinez is in critical condition after being shot several times.
Around MLB
The Rays might actually extend Carl Crawford rather than trade him.
The Yankees home attendance has dropped 13 percent from last year.
Kate Hudson may be pregnant with A-Rod's baby.
The Indians have fired Eric Wedge.
Mike Blowers is amazing. I want him to start giving lottery predictions.
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The catching free agents
is just a poo poo platter of suckiness. If I were GM, I’d resign Castro and say, “sorry buddy, we eff’d up.”
by David G on Oct 1, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, whoa, whoa
You’re just making way too much sense here. Stop that. Ramon Castro has a long swing. We want short swings.
by Bieser's Balk on Oct 1, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If I were GM, I’d resign"
this should be Omar’s course of action
by Bieser's Balk on Oct 1, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd disagree that K-rod is not good.
He’s a good pitcher, but he’s paid to be great. I don’t think anybody would have maroj issues if he had signed a contract similar to the one Scott Linebrink signed a few years ago, as he would only be paid as a good pitcher then.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 1, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once upon a time
I defended paying over value for Francisco Rodriguez because he seemed to be a sure bet, a guy who you knew was going to be stupendous in high leverage situations even if his salary exceeded his value. I didn’t want to pay millions to somebody who might end up terrible. As it turns out, Rodriguez wasn’t dependable and he became the highest paid of the whole 2008 class.
by TheBigStapler on Oct 1, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franky's contract
is pretty good. They definitely could’ve been forced to pay more. I think with more opportunities and regular work, he’s one of the best in the game. The Mets were forced to use him in a way that hurt him. He can definitely be the closer of a championship team, too bad he’s on the Mets.
by BigBoyJacobs on Oct 1, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodriguez will most likely earn (assuming he stays healthy and meets the 2012 option requirements) 10:$11.5M, 11:$11.5M, 12:$17.5M
His value based on WAR this year was $1.9M. Even in his legendary 2004, he was worth only $12.3M.
by TheBigStapler on Oct 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 17.5 million is no guarantee.
He has to finish 55 games in 2011, 100 between 2010 and 2011, and the Mets doctors have to deem him fully healthy after the 2011 season. Any injury in 2011 probably means the option doesn’t vest, and I’m sure the Mets can find plenty in his arm to be concerned about if they really want out.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 1, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem is he's not even actually a good pitcher
at least not a closer… he’s make a serviceable middle reliever but thats about it. His velocity is down, he walks people like crazy… I don’t really see anything that makes him above average at all.
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 1, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Clown show", eh?
I can only hope that this clown show is also put on hiatus for retooling.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 1, 2009 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Haha
not you.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 1, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read the Mets Police article
I have mentioned this before and I will mention it again. Omar will look to trade Reyes probably by next season’s trading deadline. It just seems like the idiot Mets fans out there, which far outnumber the readers of Amazin’ Avenue will push Minaya to make this trade. I have a feeling that it will rank up there with the Tom Seaver trade and cripple this team for a long time. I’m talking like 77-84 bad. It ain’t going to be pretty.
by aparkermarshall on Oct 1, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"In 2009 they kept a seat warm for him and he never sat down. Don't wait again."
a 0 tolerance approach to injury. nice.
by letsgocyclones on Oct 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, seriously
what an asshole he is, getting hurt and then trying really hard to get back and play for the team
by JoshNY on Oct 1, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep I just can't wait for when
we essentially give Reyes away to the Red Sox next season
by Balagast on Oct 1, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might be right
I’m convinced that the idiots who run this team (starting with Freddy and Jeffy) run it to placate the idiots who write for the sports pages of the NY Post. Of course, running a team like that is absurd, because those idiots have no idea how to build a good baseball team.
All I can think of is when Theo Epstein traded the face of the Red Sox (Nomar) at the deadline in 2004 because he thought it would help the team. The Mets would never, EVER do anything so bold because they manage according to how Mike Francesa says they should be managed.
Gah, I hate this team!
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 1, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about it
the more the Mets remind me of the Redskins, which is beyond depressing. They have owners who are willing to spend a lot of money on the team, but they just have no idea how to spend the money correctly. They seem more interested in making the media like them and selling a lot of merchandise than they are in actually winning.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 1, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does anyone really know about Reyes, his injury and future performance?
This article from Ted Berg, linking to this article from the New Yorker.
What’s my point? Only the same point I make over and over again, nearly all the time: We all know less than we think we know about everything. We should spend way less time speculating on players’ relative softness or toughness and more time recognizing that softness and toughness are relative terms.
Whatever his agent says, nobody knows how his medical recovery will be, how well he’ll play or when he is coming back.
Remember back in may (?) when all the reports were, “oh Reyes is coming back next week” to “next month” to “after ASB” to “in September” to “in the last game of the season”.
He all hope he is healthy by spring training, but what if he is not?
by Michkin on Oct 1, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, he really did.
If you haven’t clicked through please do and read the whole thing.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doctors can make Reyes grissiony...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy.
Also, I just heard on SNY Reyes’ 2011 option is for 11 million, but it only has a 500,000 buyout. I see that as….Reyes better be 100% in 2010, or be ready to either be traded, or renegotiate a lower contract with an extension.
Wow.
by fxcarden on Oct 1, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it will be an issue
As long as his legs are still attached, 11 million for a guy with his ability is a bargain. The Mets seem to value tools over production anyway.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 1, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know if they value tools
Omir is probably less toolsy than he is productive. It doesn’t seem to matter to the front office.
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With everything going on this season
this guy chooses to get mad about honoring Mariano? wow. Talk about misplaced priorities
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Oct 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just read the rant about Mariano getting the 500th save pitching plate
way off base.
I’m sure behind the scenes the Yankees asked for it. It was probably the same day they claimed Chris Carter.
Really, I have no problem with Mariano getting the thing. It’s not like the METS presented it to him.
by fxcarden on Oct 1, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This Reyes "injury" is just a smoke screen
for him being disciplined for not running out that hit in the last game he played. Maybe next year he will learn!
In all seriousness, I understand the frustration with it. I don’t think he’s ready to go the way of Nomar Garciaparra though. I think they will end up regretting it if they give up on him, especially while his value must be quite low.
"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez
by Lance Johnson on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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