Perception Vs. Reality: Mets' Stats In Games I Attended

by James Kannengieser on Oct 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT Comment 28 comments

I attended 7 Mets games this season, 6 at Citi Field and 1 at Nationals Park, resulting in a 4-3 record. Without looking at numbers and going with my gut, I felt like the following Mets played well during these games:

I felt like the following Mets played poorly:

I decided to do some data entry and find out the Mets' stats during these 7 games. Here are the top 4 and bottom 4 hitters, minimum 8 plate appearances (PA):

Player	PA	OPS
Cory Sullivan	15	1.200
Alex Cora	8	1.071
Angel Pagan	23	1.058
Daniel Murphy	20	1.000

Player	PA	OPS
David Wright	24	.482
Fernando Tatis	11	.382
Jeff Francoeur	16	.259
Carlos Beltran	8	.250

My perception was right about Sullivan, Pagan, and Francoeur but wrong about Cora, Wright and Murphy. Here's the same exercise but for pitchers (minimum 3 IP):

Player	IP	K	BB	ERA
Johan Santana	7	7	0	0.00
Ken Takahashi	3.1	2	4	0.00
Tim Redding	3.2	2	1	0.00
Mike Pelfrey	8	5	1	1.13

Player	IP	K	BB	ERA
Oliver Perez	5	7	5	3.60
Bobby Parnell	15	12	8	4.20
Brian Stokes	4	3	3	6.75
John Maine	4	1	2	15.75

My perception about both Johan and Parnell was correct, but individual pitching performances are more easily recalled.

Is there a point to this? Not really, except to distract myself from the awful NLCS matchup. Maybe this shows (anecdotally) that we shouldn't entirely rely on just our eyes and memory when evaluating players. Those pesky numbers can help too.

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Maybe this shows (anecdotally) that we shouldn’t entirely rely on just our eyes and memory when evaluating players. Those pesky numbers can help too.

Not according to many of the posters at metsmerized.com

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

People who go on numbers are lazy

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 13, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get out of your mom's basement, nerd!

The game is played by people, not computers.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 13, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so basically

you’re just saying you want baseball games to be played by computers. Nerd.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 13, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh absolutely, it's a noble movement

Anything to shorten games and finally remove the “human element” from the game once and for all. They could still sell tickets to stadiums though and have giveaway nights – TI-89 graph calculator giveaway day and Microsoft Office appreciation day come to mind. Maybe a light show or fireworks display could substitute for what was formerly humans playing “baseball.” Or the players could be cut up into little tiny pieces and float above the spectators like Mike TV did in Willy Wonka. Any alternative to “actually watching the games” is welcome.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 14, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

what about strippers at every base and the mound ?.

by fxcarden on Oct 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ti89 calculators???

Dude, those things are no joke. God damn.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 14, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't use a simple calculator anymore

those things are the shit. Actually, come to think of it, because of that calculator, I can barely add anymore since I used to use it s much.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 15, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a Ti-84

Ti-89 are too expensive

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 16, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But the unbridled power is worth it.

/nerd

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

<3 my TI-83

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Oct 19, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the 86 is a nice compromise

not quite the powerhouse of the 89, but way more useful features than the 83.

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 20, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about the Ti-92

This thing is like nerd awesome

imagine if it could connect to the interwebs

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You could always get really crazy and start comparing HPs and TIs.

The HP50g is kinda the shiznit.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love my TI-83

Though now that I’m done with Calc, and being a liberal arts major, I don’t see me using it much anymore.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's just say math is and has always been my forte, haha.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 20, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I loved Calc 1 and 2 but hated Calc 3

Probably because I loved my professor for 1 and 2, but then got a different guy for 3 and had no clue what he was saying about anything.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've never been a math person

but I still use my TI-83 on occassion, though less since I figured out how to do math stuff on Excel. And 99.9% of the time I use it, it’s for sports related stuff. If they used sports to teach math in schools, I’d probably be a mathematician right now.

by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs