Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Explaining Jeremy Lin's Early, Surprising Success

Ike Davis Applesauce - Davis hits grand slam in AFL, Gary Carter managing, Mets to meet with Kikuchi


Meet the Mets

Ike Davis made his Arizona Fall League debut yesterday and hit a grand slam. Davis finished with 6 runs batted in. Jenrry Mejia will make his first start today.

Remember when Gary Carter was at least a remote consideration in terms of the Met managerial position? Well, he's now coaching a Division II program in Palm Beach. Also, the Athletic Director thinks he's a baseball genius. 

Metsgrrl (sic) complains that we deserve an organization like the Twins. She may be right, but I'm so sick of hearing these types of complaints. Seriously, if you dislike the Met organization change your allegiance. Otherwise you are simply rewarding them for the behavior you want to change. It's much easier and more enjoyable if you stop caring if the Met organization respects and thanks you. I can take comfort in my absolute knowledge that they don't and concentrate fully on the on-field failures.

The Mets will be one of seven teams meeting with 18 year old Japanese pitcher Yusei Kikuchi.

Ron Darling owes the IRS around half a million dollars.

SNY's ratings were down 17.2% this year.

Star-divide

Around the NL East

As the Phillies are enjoying marvelous success (again) we also have to suffer from Cole Hamels looking down on us from his skyscraper.

Tim Hudson is likely to test free agency. JC Bradbury writes that he will probably be worth around $12 million/year.

Add Larry Bowa to the list of potential Nationals' managers.

Around MLB

Tim McCarver sings the classics and wants you to listen...  for $13.99.

Joe Torre makes the motions about calling it quits after 2010.

Joe Posnanski lists his best hitters of all time, topping the list with the Babe.

Comment 33 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Well, 2/24 plus a vesting option

would be ok with me, I think. He would be our second best SP in all likelihood.

by deadspy3 on Oct 14, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will he really get 12mil a year?

I was thinking maybe something like 2/20 with a 14mil option that can increase based on number of starts made or something along those lines.

by Balagast on Oct 14, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah....

Rosenthal had it all wrong….

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091014&content_id=7454764&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Oct 15, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez, Ronny

How do you owe that much? Not good.

As for Ike, if he hits well in spring, no reason he can’t win a roster spot and start at first or in the outfield.

by Mackey Sasser on Oct 14, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Bean Stringfellow

Can’t get enough of that name. As expected, he says Wagner has no intention of retiring.

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 14, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

any suggestions on what mejia's music should be

i wouldn’t mind him coming out to raining blood.

as an aside, i think the best song for a closer to come into would be genesis by justice. it sounds like robot godzilla is about to be unleashed.

2bad mejia’s goin 2 b da next cy young.

yes, i’m feeling a bit loopy today.

by firejerrymanuel on Oct 14, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Praise hail Slayer

I would seriously be pumped if any Met used a Slayer song for their entrance music.

It definitely would a welcome addition to my “Mets Mix” Ipod playlist.

by dcmetsfan on Oct 14, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't disagree with Pos' top 10 hitters list

I’m glad he resisted the temptation of putting Mays and Aaron in the Top 10 – great players though they were, on a pure batting level I don’t think they measure up to the 10 who made the list. It’s almost scary to think of how good Mantle could have been if he hadn’t torn up just about every muscle in his body.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 14, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Where the hell

is Tony Gwynn? Michael Schell ranks him number one all time pure hitter (not slugger, mind), but he doesn’t even make Pos’ top 30!?

by deadspy3 on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against Gwynn

but there’s just no way he can stand up to the big hitters at the top of Posnanski’s list. He’s not in the top 100 all-time in career OBP, not in the top 300 all-time in career SLG. You could make a pretty decent list of good hitters who’ll never get into the Hall of Fame without a ticket who’re better than him in both. (JD Drew, Brian Giles, Jason Giambi, the criminally underrated John Olerud.)

by JoshNY on Oct 14, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

if you read the comments on Pos’ post, there’s a little bit of a debate about what the term “best hitter” means. If you want to get into semantics, guys like Gwynn, Carew, and Ichiro are definitely amongst the best pure hitters, guys who if you just wanted someone to go up and make contact with the ball and hit a single, they’d be your choice. But generally, when someone says best hitters, they really mean “best offensive players,” in which case power and patience become of tantamount importance. Mickey Mantle didn’t always hit .300, but the guy got on base at an absurd rate and hit for ridiculous power, which is why he’s a better offensive player than Tony Gwynn (and Gwynn’s one of my all-time favorite ballplayers, so I don’t mean to denigrate him)

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 14, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree with DiMaggio that high

All-time great player, but I think his legend is a bit overrated

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 14, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

and Bonds is a little better than Williams. Hate to say it, but he probably is.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

although it is absurd that going into the last season of his career he had like 20 more career homers than strikeouts – talk about a pure hitter. He didn’t have anywhere near the patience of the Ruths and Williams’ of the world, but damn could the man hit a baseball. I like to think of him as the Greg Maddux of hitters – a guy who didn’t walk that much shouldn’t have been such a good hitter, but he was, just like a guy who didn’t strike out that many guys shouldn’t have been as good a pitcher as Maddux was. They were both just obscenely good at one skill to compensate – for Joe D it was making contact with the ball, for Maddux it was control.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that story about

Stan Musial seeing Pujolses 1st game on a whim is kinda crazy.

by gbaked on Oct 15, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty amazing.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea

that’s why I love Pos so much – he mixes in great stories with advanced stats as well as anyone in the business. He’s as good a writer as any of the old school guys, but he’s not a curmudgeon like most of them.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 15, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Seriously, if you dislike the Met organization change your allegiance."

Come on now, pops. That’s a little like “If you don’t like this country, leave it!”

by Pack Bringley on Oct 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Looking back on it, it was probably too strong. I just still can’t find it in myself to get upset about this stuff.

by Joe Budd on Oct 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

but your larger point is still correct

The Twins don’t win because they’re nice to their fans. They play in a perpetually bad division that allows them to compete and generally have a well-run organization.

To me, the Mets can be nice to me by putting the best team they can out on the field (I know, this is asking a lot)

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 14, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically

The Twins don’t really win at all!

by deadspy3 on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

they were owned for years by Carl Pohlad, the Uncle Scrooge McDuck of professional sports team ownership. Guy was loaded and never put any money into his team (which he’s perfectly free to do, just as long as people don’t go praising him or his organization for being fan-friendly). He offered the Twins up for contraction in ’01 or ’02 as long as he got a decent price for the team.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 14, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

technically

the Twins have won two World Series since the Mets’ last one, so, glass houses and all that

by JoshNY on Oct 14, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

was just about to post this exact thing

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah

but that was a long time ago and not really relevant to discussions of the current FO’s MO

by deadspy3 on Oct 15, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

SNY Ratings

Didn’t they drop SAP this year too?

by Mark D on Oct 14, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

bring back Kid

glad Carter landed the job in Florida. Time for him to take the Mets. What is our problem with him? He wins everywhere, especially here in Southern California with the Flyers last year.

Go Mizzou.

by BuckyFox on Oct 17, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

two other managing options

Tony La Russa and Joe Torre

Go Mizzou.

by BuckyFox on Oct 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Ew, La Russa.

And ew, Torre. Thanks, but no thanks.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 17, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #3

Recent FanPosts

X-wing_small
BrooksBaseball Player Cards: An Amazing Resource for Met Fans who are curious about how Pitchers pitch in the Major Leagues
Ricky-roma-300x224_small
Sabermetrics and Me: Drowning in Objectivity
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #4
Small
Sandy Alderson, @MetsGM, and getting ready for Spring Training
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #1 (edit: and apparently #2)
Small
Two New York Players of OBP Yore
Small
Thoughts on 2012
Warningsign7vl_small
Is it time to bring back a team captain?
Nsapcs7_extr_small
Thanking The Mets

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

I was flipping through some of my parents' photo albums this afternoon in search of one particular shot of the sign my older sister made for Mets Banner Day back in the late eighties. Though I didn't find that one — I'll post it when I eventually track it down, and I can assure you that it's Keith-themed — but I did stumble upon this wonderful photo of my younger sister's stuffed animal menagerie spread out in front of a glorious rainbow-festooned Mets pennant, also from the late eighties.

She works for the HRC now and was particularly delighted to be reminded of this photo.

(click to embiggen)
Now that banner day is back, hopefully this years will look a little like this. I know it's not great, but i don't pretend to be a professional. embiggen!
In order to raise extra capital, the Mets have explored signing Kosuke Fukudome to a minor league contract with an invitation to Spring Training (replete with curiously high uniform number).

Recent FanShots

Sabermetrics! Fantasy League is live.
What if the Mets Never Traded for Johan Santana? | Patrick Flood
[O]f the $136.7M the Mets spent on players in 2011, $72.8M was given to...
Witness claims that the Wilpons knew about Madoff
Two Mets Minor Leaguers -- Including Former 2nd Rounder -- Suspended 50 Games
Sandy Alderson on Twitter!
Binghamton Mets Baseball - Online Clearance Sale
Mets Revoke Megdal's Credentials
Lewin to Mets radio booth - Mets Blog - ESPN New York
The Book On Mets Prospect Zack Wheeler

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #3

Recent FanPosts

X-wing_small
BrooksBaseball Player Cards: An Amazing Resource for Met Fans who are curious about how Pitchers pitch in the Major Leagues
Ricky-roma-300x224_small
Sabermetrics and Me: Drowning in Objectivity
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #4
Small
Sandy Alderson, @MetsGM, and getting ready for Spring Training
Mets002_small
2012 AA Prospects List #1 (edit: and apparently #2)
Small
Two New York Players of OBP Yore
Small
Thoughts on 2012
Warningsign7vl_small
Is it time to bring back a team captain?
Nsapcs7_extr_small
Thanking The Mets

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


THE BIG GUY

Aa_avatar_small Eric Simon

THE INCREDIBLES

Blackfish2_small Alex Nelson

Endy_small Rob Castellano

Img_1262_small Matthew Artus

Kanye_pekka_small Sam Page

Best_infield_ever_small James Kannengieser

Metsstitches_small Eno Sarris

48900_1085732804_4466_n_small Chris McShane

Lg_rocker_ap_small Matthew Callan

Billy_and_daddy_4th_of_july_small Bill Petti

THE NEWS GURUS

Mrmet_small Steve Schreiber

3_small Stephen Schmidt

159714144_040c6c1501_small Pack Bringley

124967042_crop_340x234_small Jeffrey Paternostro