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Community Off Season Part Five: The Setup Men

The community has spoken, and John Maine will be the starter Opening Day, and Jon Niese will be the odd man out and will hone his skill some more in AAA. The Mets (Community) still have $2.1 million free.


Our next step in the Community off-season is addressing the bullpen, which I will do in parts due to the fact that there will likely be 7 pitchers in the MLB bullpen.

 

How this will work is that I am going to assume that K-rod is our closer, and organize the bullpen into the following:

Closer - Francisco Rodriguez

Setup Man

Setup Man

MRP

MRP

LRP

and we will decided whether the other two spots will be dedicated to "Lefties" or just miscellaneous relievers.

Right now, there are two setup men, so everyone in the poll will vote for their favorite candidate for the job and the Top 2 will have earned the job as the Community Setup Men. Options include:


Bobby Parnell: This young, in-house option is a player I'm sure we're all familiar with. As a rookie in 2009, his surface numbers don't look too hot: 4-8 record, 5.30 ERA, 4.69 BB/9 also. However, his numbers are deflated mainly due to his 8 starts, most of which ended up as atrocities. Parnell as a reliever posted a 3.46 ERA in 52 IP, striking out 43, and walking 23. In addition, his FIP finished comfortably under 4.00, and his tRA did as well. his GO/AO rate of 1.26 was also favorable, as was his 8 homers allowed in 88 IP. Even more in his favor is the fact that he had a .347 BABIP against. In terms of stuff, Parnell possesses a fastball that averages between 94 and 95 MPH, and a sharp slider to complement it. Occasionally he throws a changeup as well.

 

Sean Green: Green had an off year in his debut with the Mets, hitting three-year lows in FIP (4.42) and in tRA (4.55), however; Green's 2007 and 2008 speak very highly of him. In both of those years, he finished with his FIP under 3.80 and his tRAs were 4.34 and 3.97 respectively. His numbers were mainly altered due to a heightened walk rate from 2008, a career high 4.65 BB/9, and possibly because he's strayed away from his slider (used 18.9% in 2008, 7.1% in 2009) and the overuse of his curve (2.5% in 2008, 16.7% in 2009) perhaps this simple mistake will be easy to fix, and Green could return to his 2008 form, which would certainly be useful for the Metropolitans. Green isn't a gunslinger like Parnell, in fact his fastball for his career averages at only 89.1 MPH. Green gets by on groundballs generated by his sinking fastball and slider.

 

Jenrry Mejia: Who better to fill the setup role than this God of a man? He's got a mid-90s fastball with a ton of life, a very nice split-change and a curve that's coming along nicely. He dominated A+ ball at the ripe age of 19 and maybe a move to an MLB bullpen is the last step before he becomes our ace/closer. He's a groundball pitcher with a great mental makeup and its possible that from the bullpen his fastball could be even faster!

 

Kelvim Escobar: He's made exactly one appearance in the past two years, which is discouraging but may also make him willing to sign a 1 year, $2 million deal as a setup man. Escobar's always had killer stuff and he's looked alright in his recovery. Could be a very valuable guy to have in the bullpen and possibly a rotation replacement for any injured starters. His fastball in his only start of this year was averaging at a very encouraging 93.7 MPH. Escobar's deep repertoire consists of a fastball, curve, slider, changeup, splitter and cutter. Would be a bargain, but the Angels may very well re-sign him to be the #5 starter in their next rotation as they are losing Lackey.

 

I'm not sure of their availability but interesting targets may include Jose Arredondo and Chad Qualls, both of whom would command at least a few prospects in deals.

 

Sorry guys, there aren't many options I cant think of that would cost $2.1 million or less outside of the above. IF you have ideas, PLEASE post them in the comments section.

Poll
What is your solution for the Setup Man spot in 2010?
Bobby Parnell
23 votes
Sean Green
4 votes
Jenrry Mejia
5 votes
Kelvim Escobar
9 votes
Other
20 votes

61 votes | Poll has closed

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Sean Green for righties

Pedro for lefties. It’s the rest of the bullpen I worry about.

by Sam Page on Oct 20, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you Sam

and why do we need a defined set-up man. Shouldn’t we be using our best pitchers in the highest leverage positions anyway, I remember reading an article on here about that.

I don’t mind the Escobar signing either because he could spot start if his arm can take it.

by Delgado on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guys

I know you already voted

but the point of organizing it this way was for the pure sake of voting.

If we don’t organize the bullpen into arbitary positions how the hell would we make quick polls? Do each bullpen spot one by one?

by METSMETSMETS on Oct 21, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green?

green stunk it up this season. I dom’t want him anywhere near citi field next season. remember the cardinal game when he hit derosa in extra innings to give them the lead? then he gave up a grand slam to pujols!

by nymrjk on Oct 20, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hate to break it you folks but Green's 4.11 tRA*

is pretty comparable to Frankie’s 4.02. Only Feliciano stood out in that group.

by Sam Page on Oct 20, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it matters.

Just pitch whoever is doing best/has a favorable match up. We should really just get a list of everyone in the pen.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 20, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about it

But I just thought this way was more organized and easier.

I know, I think all these titles are arbitrary as well, but for the sake of organization I felt it was appropriate.

by METSMETSMETS on Oct 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For your consideration, from my Bobby Parnell article two months ago...

Bobby “Lazy Sunday” Parnell
Bobby “Founder of the Irish Parliamentary Party” Parnell
Bobby “Sarah Palin’s Successor” Parnell
Bobby “Blue-Eyed Soul” Parnell
Bobby “The Father of Modern Ventriloquism” Parnell

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 20, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sup?

One 5.43 tRA season later and Stokes has to hand off the nickname mantle to Parnell?

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Oct 20, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I vote for "anyone but Mejia"?

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Oct 20, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Escobar (who I'm using as a stand-in for any similar gamble) might just work

I can see Parnell in the pen rather than AAA, but mostly because of budget problems, and only if throwing low-leverage innings until he improves his control. He has a lot to prove before being annointed set-up man.

Green’s would be a fine setup man… IF he walked 2 less men per 9. But since he’ll never do that, he’ll make a fine 11th guy.

Jenrry as a setup man is like using your Jaguar to deliver donuts. He needs to be building UP arm strength, no limiting it. No thanks.

Escobar or someone like him is a good idea. Desperate, but good. At least, with the budget we’re stuck with, there isn’t anything else to try. To compete in 2010 we’re going to need three or four gambles to pay off. Let’s hope it works.

by SeanSchirmer on Oct 21, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted Parnell

The bullpen seems pretty set to me: Parnell, Green, Pedro, Socks!, BB-Rod, some filler for the long role, and someone who is a second lefty (Bostick?)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 21, 2009 6:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SOCKS!

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Oct 21, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

and thats Sir Doctor Brain Socks esquire dds md phd

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 21, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he prefers it to be written:

Sir Dr. Senator Brain SOCKS! Esq. D.D.S.R.S.V.P.

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Oct 22, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see Derek Bell pitch again.

by Rey-O on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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