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Their inaccurate headline, not mine. He's been with our VSL team for a couple of seasons, but he hadn't yet gotten out of the baseball academy in Venezuela. Feel free to make your own jokes about how our players are now actually bypassing the DL now.

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What's with Met players and inopportune times/ways to die?

I remember going to see Jeremi Gonzalez pitch a game…

In 2006, I had bad luck, seeing all kinds of crappy pitchers pitching…Gonzalez, Dave Williams, Alay Soler…Must’ve seen Steve Traschel pitch about five times (though he isn’t in the same crappiness scale as the others above. Traschel, at least, had some lasting power in the Majors…)

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 24, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh shit

Look it up – Geremi Gonzalez died a little more than a year ago. I never even knew till I Wikipedia’d him.

It’s Geremi with a ‘G’, not Jeremi with a ‘J’ – he changed his name at some point.

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

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by sj10689 on Oct 26, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

'J', 'G'...

Whatever it is…But, yeah, I knew that, which is why I brought him up. He he hit by a lightning bolt, and died in Venezuela. Recently, the authorities were thinking about exhuming his body, because there are rumors that he actually met a violent death at the hands of someone else, and that the lightning thing is/was just a cover story.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

man , 18 and a heart attack?

thats pretty unusual. must have been some sort of underlying condition that went unnoticed.

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

IANAD, but I think a heart attack at such a young age would be

the result of a heart defect or an enlarged heart, possibly exacerbated by the strain of being a pro athlete (or drug use, which is likely not a contributing factor). Those kinds of things could easily go undetected.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cardiomegaly

Also, look up ‘Athletic heart syndrome’.

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not trying to make light of the kid's death.

Believe me, I definitely understand the seriousness of heart attacks (far better than most people my age). But after it a season of getting slammed by injuries, an 18-year old dying of a heart attack just seems like another kick in the groin.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or not.

Beer is good! And stuff!

by R_Adragna on Oct 24, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes.

Condolences.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 25, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow. 18. RIP Rafael Castro

I just want to know if the Mets VSL academy has a worse medical staff than the Majors team.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 25, 2009 6:55 AM EDT reply actions  

That's a scary thought

Or maybe, the medical staff is administering some low-grade undetectable steroid replacement that is produced in other countries and hasn’t undergone laboratory testing. Think about it… Omar Minaya, international drug smuggler. Maybe the medical staff are a bunch of yes-men who have taken a vow of silence on this. I believe Kirk Radomski is involved.

Well, I’m joking about 85% of this. BUT, what if!?

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Oct 26, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my first thought

Omar or any other Mets staff members didn’t have any involvement, but steroids was also a thought that crossed my mind. Young people have been linked to heart attack deaths while using steroids. Barring some kind of disease that went undetected, this is a theoretical possibility.

It’s pretty sad, and the “dark side” of steroids. I don’t hope that this was the cause of his death, but if it was, maybe it’d open peoples’ eyes more about how dangerous steroids really are. Even with everything that happened in the past decade in baseball with steroids, too many fans have a “la-dee-da”, “it’s okay as long as you’re on my team and produce” attitude.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sad truth...

… is that since many of the Latin American countries are impoverished (i.e. Dominican Republic, many parts of Venezuela), the people there will do almost ANYTHING they could to get a big payday – there was an article (I forgot the link) that discussed many poor families using their teenage sons as “meal tickets” for these paydays, and they would do anything to improve their performance enough to get signed, get a signing bonus (~$90,000+) and hopefully, performance bonuses and a shot at the majors for big time $$$. The players would channel these funds to their families to greatly increase their quality of life and support them. The AVERAGE salary in many of these countries range anywhere from $9,000 – $12,000, which here in the U.S. would qualify as being below the poverty line. In the Dominican Republic, steroids/PEDs are still widely readily available in pharmacies for cheap and “budding” talent there have a strong, inseparable link to these because of the allure of all the money involved. Basically, and I hate to say this, many of these young players from these other countries are basically no more than prostitutes. But, I really do sympathize for them because the pressure is just overwhelming.

Here’s a link to an article (not the one I was referring to) that is equally informative about this, from ESPN – http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2763194

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by sj10689 on Oct 27, 2009 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

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