Still Deciding Between Yankees And Phillies?
by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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I submit the following:
And the accompanying video clip for the above picture.
Skankees suck! They buy their championships! A-Roid! Their fans are all obnoxious mouth-breathers! Yeah, whatever. Atleast the Yankees don't have Shane Victorino.
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In Fairness
I live in Philly, and thats enough reason to cheer for the Yanks.
by WebBard on Oct 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+10000000000000
I would rather see the Mets go 0-162 next year than have to endure the Phillies winning another championship.
by Balagast on Oct 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a purse, it's European
by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he wears fur too
Look at A-Rod over there, prancing around in his coat with his purse. Yeah, he’s a dandy, he’s a real fancy boy.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better view
Still not sure who I’m rooting for, if I can manage to “root” for either of them.
by Mount17 on Oct 26, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Again......
He only does this because the douchebag umpires don’t call it on him.
by fxcarden on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madoff only stole billions because the SEC didn't care to investigate
Doesn’t mean he deserves a citizenship award. Victorino is a dick. End of story.
by SuperT on Oct 26, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1,000,000
thank you. The “it’s the umps fault” argument is complete BS. He’s still an ass clown. Also, how in the name of hell did Reyes get called for interference on that
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blind adherence to the written rule.
As opposed to, you know, reasonable interpretation.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually I don't even think the rule was followed
The assumption made by the people who argued it was an ok call within the rules was that Reyes didn’t try to get out of the way. I think the video shows that he clearly did peel off. As I said at the time, its not like he has to run to the dugout.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember a long discussion thread about this
One person (or more) argued that the umpires had no choice but to call obstruction according to the letter of the rule; many disagreed. I was of the opinion that the umpires failed to interpret the rule in light of the situation, which was that Victorino went out of his way to make contact with Reyes and, as such, the umpire should not have called obstruction in that situation.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Victorino was a Met and did the same exact thing, and got away with it, then he would be awesome, right ?.
by fxcarden on Oct 26, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, he'd still be a complete douche
I mean, I’d cheer for him, but he’d still be an ass clown. I’d have cheered for Barry Bonds if he were a Met, too – doesn’t mean I have to like the guy.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same way with Lo Duca
guy was an asshole, but I rooted for him.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but I would also still agree that it was a horrid call. Again folks, Victorino really isn’t all that good of a player. Bullshit stuff like this is what gives him an inflated rep as a gamer, griity guy etc.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me and my friends
used to make the card game “war” more interesting by considering it right and honorable to attempt to cheat but establishing penalties if you get caught.
steroids aside, baseball tacks the other way. even legal stuff like the hidden ball trick isn’t attempted for fear of being considered douchy, and we get really bent out of shape at victorino even though he attempted what he attempted in full view of the umpire.
i’m not sure i really have a point. just an observation.
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm probably talking to myself here
but i should draw a distinction between rule breaking and cheating. rule breaking is the type of illegal action that has a penalty within the context of the game. it’s illegal to swat at a guy’s arm in basketball but we don’t get indignant over fouls.
i think we can say that cheating is the stuff that’s heinous enough to spill outside the context of the game, into suspensions and the like. we’re always indignant over it. corked bats, razor blades in the mitt.
victorino’s infraction was rule breaking — not cheating — but baseball has an intolerance for rule breaking unique to sports. Is there any situation where it would be justified for a player to intentionally perform an illegal action, like fouling a guy hard on a breakaway, or holding to prevent the certainty of a sack?
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rule breaking?
He threw his fucking elbow at Reyes’ chest, that is violent cheating. Reyes would have been justified in kicking that punk bitch’s ass.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
violent cheating?
really? no… really?
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
violent cheating.
really. yes…really.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its certainly cheating
I might argue with violent. More like cowardly and bush league.
by Endys Game on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, the fact that he pushed technically makes it violent.
but it’s not like he subsequently kicked him in the face, so i understand.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you cheat in war?
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Victorinio, but why hate him for that play?
He tried to make something happen and it worked. If Reyes did the same thing we would all be talking about what a good play it was. I agree with the idea that Vic is an ass clown, but not for that.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one thing if he just knocked into him
but he threw his fucking elbow at his ribs.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of COURSE for that.
HE THREW HIS ELBOW INTO HIS CHEST. Completely intentional, didn’t try to hide it, he’s a douche.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop saying we all would love the play if Reyes did it.
I don’t support bush league baseball by anybody.
by Endys Game on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it bush leage if you dive for a flyball, trap it, hop up,
pretend you caught it, and get the call? Then I don’t see why trying to get a call on the basepaths is different. In every sport there are situations where you try to hide certain things from the refs. This is no different. It wasn’t bush league, he just tried to make something happen and it worked.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it bush league if a WR gets one foot down, after a catch
can’t drag the other foot, but the ref calls it a catch, and then the offense snaps the next play before it can be challenged? What if a DB tugs on a WR’s jersey to gain an advantage, picks a pass, and brings it to the house. Bush league? Not to me, just a little play that you got away with because the refs/umpires missed it. That A-Rod play was more bush league, yelling in somebody’s ear.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By that logic
if Russia invaded Georgia, and the UN did nothing about it, it shouldn’t be considered a violent action because nobody took action against it. That’s terrible reasoning.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happens to Atlanta, then ?.
Does Chipper need to learn to speak Russian ?.
by fxcarden on Oct 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, yes, it is bush league.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're both bush league
but running into a player intentionally so that they get called for an infraction is worse than pretending you caught a ball that you didn’t. Just like Flozell Adams tripping defensive lineman is worse than pretending you dragged both feet in bounds.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 27, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you looked at that picture up there?
This wasn’t near second base, like he’s trying to go in and take Jose out at the same time. It was between the bases, and he barreled into him like he was playing friggin’ football, not baseball.
by SuperT on Oct 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll root
for good games and a good series. when/if it’s down to the wire and i’m forced to make a choice, i just don’t know anymore…
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies all the way
For one, living in New York, I can deal with the celebration if the Phillies win it all since it will be in another city. I can’t deal with the endless abject worship we’ll have to deal with over the next few weeks if the Yankees win it all. Making it worse will be the worship of A-Rod by the same fans and media who wanted his “choker” ass run out of town on a rail for the last 5 years.
And while we can hope that the Mets can take the high ground in the rivalry back from the Phillies some day, it’s a completely different thing with the Yankees. With them, the level of crap spewed by the media and the fans reaches the absurd. “Aura and Mystique”, “True Yankee”. It’s like playing for them is some noble higher calling, instead of a way to make more money than the Royals would pay you. It makes my stomach turn.
So no, I don’t like the Phillies at all, but sometimes you have to get behind something you’re not fond of in order to defeat a greater evil.
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is a strong argument Greenpoint
but let me counter it by saying the Phillies now also have this fake aura of being gritty tough warriors who just play more balls out than anybody else and therefore want it more. And their players are far more overrated than the Yankees players are.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
Can you really call a team that happens to be the reigning World Champs who are returning to the World Series… “overrated?”
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure we can, this is America. We're free to do whatever we want :)
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No and that is why I didn't
now if you can engage your reading skills , you would see I mentioned players not the team. and specfically, I would mention Rollins, Victorino and Hammels as three of the most overrated players in the game today. More so than say Jeter, A-rod and Petitte.
Keep trolling Bye, Dawk. I love the fact that the fans of the world champtions pay so much attention to a blog about a team that went 70-92!!!
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way Bye Dawk?
I am just curious? is your handle a statement to the effect that you no longer root for or respect Brian Dawkins since he left the Eagles or are you just wishing him a fond farewell?
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Likely a fond farewell
Lot of Eagles fans were miffed when the team decided to let Dawkins walk after last season. It’s one reason also why a team employee got fired, because of his frustration of the situation.
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just sad he’s gone, brother. Just sad that he’s gone.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s slow over there, and I have time to kill at work.
And again, am I being disrespectful? Relax.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
theoretically
if the rest of the National League really, really sucked, making it to back-to-back World Series wouldn’t be all that impressive. Kinda like when the Nets went to back-to-back NBA Championships, even though if they played in the West they probably would have struggled to be a 6 seed
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
short series are much flukier in baseball than basketball
but, even if the Nets had somehow eeked out a win in one of those finals, they still shouldn’t be compared to legitimately great teams
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before this debate gets even ankle deep...
You aren’t seriously comparing this Phillies team to that Nets team, are you?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, no
just using it as part of my theoretical.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do hate everything about philadelphia
but i love your icon cause always sunny is the funniest show on television
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And technically, couldn’t we make the same argument about your Giants?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly
although I think the NFC is much closer to the AFC now than the NL is to the AL, and certainly closer than it was 5 or 6 years ago.
And for the record, I’m not necessarily saying the Phillies are overrated, just that it’s theoretically possible. Even championship winning teams can be overrated, in a historical sense.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, I forgot to include the zinger
“although I think the NFC is much closer to the AFC now than the NL is to the AL, and certainly closer than it was 5 or 6 years ago.”…so, technically, the early 2000’s Eagles are probably the more overrated team.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the “second post zinger” is tough… I’m guilty of that all the time.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 26, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies are a very good team right now
There I said it. But that doesn’t mean that they don’t have overrated players. it would be hard to have overrated players on a crappy team wouldn’t it? The thing about the Phillies fans is on the one hand they want to say the Mets choked in 2007 and 2008 and on the other hand they like to say that they were this griity hardnosed team that was destined to win once Jimmy Rollins willied it all into being with his “team to beat” guarantee. it can’t be both can it?
Utley and Howard are legitimate superstar players and Rollins is a solid ss and leadoff man. But coming into this season Rollins had not even been as good as Reyes in three of the last four years if you go by WAR. Hammels is a one year wonder unless he proves otherwise. and Victorino really is an slightly above average player (although I admit the Mets would kill to have even a slightly above average player in left or right field).
They are the best team in the NL right now but talk of a dynasty is absurd. They play in a bandbox and the pitching isn’t that good.
You are respectful enough Bye Dawk, i will give you that
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
If you ask a lot of people, (those that listen and agree with the fan), the Mets are filled with overrated players! Reyess sucks, Wright’s a choke artist and Beltran is lazy.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except the NFC is not as big a disparity as the NL.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is how I see it
Well I figure since the Yankees do already have the “aura” and “mystique”, winning another World Series changes nothing.
On the other hand, imagine if the Phillies won two in a row. Now they’re going to get those same “aura” and “mystique” labels.
I can’t change that there’s already one douchey fanbase, but I can sure hope another one doesn’t form.
by mnbv on Oct 26, 2009 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
you are too late
the douchey phillies fanbase has already formed. the best we can hope for now is that they don’t feel more validated after this series.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think Red Sox fans, circa 2007
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't have said it better myself
We’ve only hated the Phillies for two years, really. Hatred for the Yankees is eternal. And I don’t want to have to deal with all my roommates celebrating and pounding it in the ass if the Skanks win.
Leon Washington for President!
by Prince on Oct 27, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
do people hate the phillies more than the braves? lately, yeah, but as an organization for me it’s not close. maybe because my formative years were brave-dominated.
hatred:
Braves
Yankees
Phillies
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
their fans are a gazillion times worse
I’d rank it:
Phillies
Yankees
Braves
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
phillies fans
show up to playoff games, though. the spoiled non-attendance of 90s braves fans bothers me much more.
and their attendance this year failed to respond to their late-season run.
and they do the fucking tomahawk chop.
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just the Phllies and the Braves
I’d rank it: Phillies, Braves, Marlins, Nationals, Cardinals, Red Sox, Yankees
The Mets play their division rivals much more than the Yankees. I’m still bitter about 2006 so I’ll throw the Cardinals in there. And Red Sox fans are the same fans as Patriots and Celtics fans.
by boom_roasted on Oct 26, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're rational enough to hate the nats more than the yanks
b/c of division rivalry, you are a far better man than I.
by letsgocyclones on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting Phillies fans above Yanks fans as worse is insane
INSANE.
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
by ZaBlanc on Oct 26, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you ever lived in/near Philadelphia?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 27, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope that seems like a poor life choice to me
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so then trust us.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
I find it telling that all the people who plan to root for the Phillies have never lived near Philly, while those of us who will be rooting for the Yankees have lived in both New York and Philly. I highly doubt there’s a single Mets fan who has lived in both who plans on rooting for the Phillies
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but since i dont plan to live in philly anytime soon
the phils winning is a more palatable choice because I dont have to hear about it. I agree if i were in philly i would definitely be on the other side of this one. It comes down to which gives me the least headache.
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The D Train
I ride the D train home to 145th St, and coincidentally that is the train many people take to Yankee Stadium. Whenever there is an evening home game, I get to ride home with a train full of obnoxious Yankees fans hooting and hollering and generally banging their chains on the ground.
They will be 10 times worse if the Yankees win. Phillies fans may be worse in general, but I know maybe three of them, and will never get stuck on a D train full of Phillies fans, except maybe in a nightmare.
by erich10031 on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me miss the good Dontrelle Willis
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 28, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my formative years, I hated the Cards the most
but times have changed. and they will again. In 2025 we will be rooting for the Phills to beat up the Nats I am sure.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2025?
try 2011, when Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg go all cyborg on the league
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im only 16 so i dont really have a hatred for the braves
so my order of hatred would be yankees, phillies, marlins, braves.
i atleast respect what the braves did for the last 15 years in a non-douchy way (excluding rocker)
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Oct 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox
others deserve no such hatred.
ain't had enough...
by BlackOps on Oct 26, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn i had almost convinced myself to "cheer" for the phillies
and you had to go and “ruin” it
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 26, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm making a clear rule right now.
As a Mets fan, you do not root for either team, instead you root against one team.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fine
I’m rooting against the Yankees.
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 26, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
free beer, if he had better hands he would have caught it and had something to enjoy while they played.
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He showers in beer. That's gritty.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really have that much of a problem with the Yankees
Yes, there is all the cross-town rival stuff, but we only play them 6 times per year. We play the Phillies, Braves, Marlins, and Nationals many more times and we compete with them for a playoff spot (or two). I would “root” for the Yankees in the World Series against any of those teams.
by boom_roasted on Oct 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not watching the World Series.
I love baseball, and I’ll watch pretty much any game any time.
But this is too much. Either of these teams winning it all will be so much easier to stomach if I just ignore it completely.
So I’m not rooting for anyone, and I’m just not watching.
batting helmets. batting titles. obp.
by Durelo on Oct 26, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seconded, brother.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Oct 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ignored the whol thing last year
And that worked quite well for me.
by SuperT on Oct 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said this in another post, but it's worth repeating
JUST DON’T FUCKING WATCH THE DAMN SERIES!
Given my dad and brother are Yankees fans, I’ll find it hard to avoid the TV in my basement during the game. But I sure as hell will not find myself watching the entire duration of this “Series.”
I advise reading a book or doing something intelligent instead.
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's my plan
I won’t watch the series, just as I didn’t watch it in ’99.
I think I’m lucky in that I live in a Polish neighborhood where there are more people who care about soccer than baseball (and what baseball fans are here lean more Mets than Yankees), so I think I’ll be able to ride it out OK.
God help any of you who live on the UES among the pink Jeter t-shirt crowds.
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats me you are talking about
I saw my mailman, a grown middle aged man like me, wearing a Nick Swisher jersey. Guy hasn;t even done well in the playoffs. Its enough to make me switch to UPS.
by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure there is some midget mud wrestling on ESPN Deportes I can watch….
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
by sireric on Oct 26, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Dominoes tournaments on ESPN2?
Remember that?
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The darts tournaments were great also. I would watch either, in place of the abomination that will be this world series.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
by sireric on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I got ESPN 8, The Ocho...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
James
Victorino is an ass and we all hate the guy. But the Kay’s Waldman’s Francescas, Malusis’ of the world make it wayyyyyyyy harder to root against the phils. Sweeny Murti talking about how clutch Jeter was today by letting a ball ounce off of him DIRECTLY to cano. Cano is all of a sudden a GGer with his -4.9 UZR.
FUCK THE YANKEES. I rooted for the mother fucking Braves in 99 over them. I could never root for the yankees. Never
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don't really listen
to the Kay’s, Waldman’s, Francesa’s, Malusis’s and Murti’s of the world too often. I don’t see why opinions of people like that really matter. We can make our own decisions/judgments about the game; we don’t have to be spoonfed stuff by the MSM.
Yeah, Mike Francesa saying “TRADE DA CORE” is annoying and reason to stop for a second and say “hey he’s stupid and here’s the reason why” but what’s the point in getting worked up over it? Michael Kay talking about Derek Jeter’s intangibles is like nails on a blackboard, but it’s about 1/100 as infuriating as Shane Victorino playing bush league baseball then telling the world that the Mets suck because they celebrate too much.
by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is you can turn them off, but
then you listen to WINS even when it’s not the sportscast, and you hear idiot Yankee fans (I know it’s redundant) whining when they lose about their 26 titles vs. the one Angels title as if that has anything to do with the game they just lost. And by the way John Montone, the Yankkes didn’t win 39 pennants in the old Yankee Stadium. The first two were in the Polo Grounds.
by StorkFan on Oct 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Murti is actually a Phillies fan
I remember Sommers breaking his balls in ’93, coming to work every day if Philly mufti.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
by CharlieH on Oct 27, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember
at some point, Howie Rose had a show with Murti as his producer, and Howie would make fun of him for having "f"s replaced with "ph"s in notes he would pass him.
by Mount17 on Oct 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken
I think I said it last week – the main three reasons to root against the Phils are: Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino, and Jayson Stark. Also, I think I’m a bit immune from having to suffer Yankees fans because I don’t live in New York anymore. I’m actually closer to Philly here, and there are more Phillies fans in my office than Yanks fans (one guy is actually a fan of both, and I hate him for that).
The thing about not watching the Series – this has the makings of being a really good World Series. Our hatred of these two teams aside, these are probably the 2 best teams in the sport, and they’re pretty evenly matched. This should be the first Series to go more than 5 games since 2003, and considering the lineups and the bandboxes the teams play in, it’s gonna be entertaining to watch the final scores posted each night..
Also, I don’t think I have it in me to completely skip the World Series, though I did skip most of the 2006 World Series because I just couldn’t stomach it.
by dcmetsfan on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah. The three best teams in baseball are in the AL East.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it will be fun to watch
for neutral fans. I have a feeling this series will set a record for most total homers hit.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you gotta add jason werth to that list
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Oct 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his extended soul patch is wayy to big to ignore
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Oct 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Werth's not so bad
Though I forgot to mention Brett Myers. Tough to root for that guy.
by dcmetsfan on Oct 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not sure why
i just hate everything about him.
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Oct 26, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe b/c he's a douche who hits his wife?
that seems like a pretty good reason to me
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. But this is at least funny:
http://www.thefightins.com/dmac/brett-myers-denied/
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've wanted Werth on the Mets for a couple of years now.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
by CharlieH on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The phillies did it last year, it won’t be the end of the world if they did it again. Our rivalry with them is like two years old, I don’t remember caring about them much before ‘07. At various points I couldn’t stand the braves, dodgers, braves, phillies, but the yankees are forever. This will pass, root for the phils so we don’t have to deal with both of the teams having won championships in the past two years.
by Rey-O on Oct 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you are confused. This is the guy you are talking about right??
by Balagast on Oct 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's something new!
I highly Rec’d it.
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now he wants to be in the Geico ads too?
15 minutes looking at this can make you 15% more pissed off
by StorkFan on Oct 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Yankees but...
there’s no way I can root for the Phillies, I don’t have it in me.
Since it’s two douchebag teams, I’ll gladly take the d-bag team from NY rather than the d-bag team from Philly
by Syler on Oct 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Phillies. I hate the Yankees as well.
I’m not going to have good feelings about the team that won regardless of the outcome. I hate the argument that the AL is a vastly superior level of competition worse than I hate either franchise in this years world series. At least a Phillies win would give the NL 3 out of the last 4 world series and hopefully lead the media to tone down that ridiculous argument. Largely due to that I’m hoping for an extremely poorly pitched series in cold wet weather (so both teams fans get to suffer anxiety attacks while getting the flu), with a Phillies victory to at least stick one to the AL. I also wouldn’t mind a major injury to a yankee starting pitcher, as I feel that would lessen the likelihood that they get invovled with Holliday.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 26, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies all the way
Mostly because all of the Retarded media here in New York Like WFAN,1050 espn and stuff like that.And because the Yankees bought their trip to the WS.Without C.C and Tex,Thier is no way they make it this far
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not watching it but go Yankees
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Oct 26, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is this Yankees-Phillies you speak of?
that sounds like baseball but wasn’t baseball killed by FOX, the Umpires, Bud Selig, Omar and Jerry?
I’m very confused.
I guess I’ll watch some of that odd game played on ice while wearing cleats and carrying sticks
Jerry and Omar assclowns for life
by Ghost of seven in a row on Oct 26, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How could anyone root for philly?
I actually wanted the yankees to win since the dodgers got eliminated because the yanks are also from New York. Believe it or not there are actually yankee fans that arent completely smug and I really hate philly!!! And sorry bout my spelling and grammer to lazy 2 care
by metsbaseball93 on Oct 26, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my best friend is a yankee fan and believe it or not a smart one and that is why I say that
yankees sweep!!!!!!
by metsbaseball93 on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting against them both.
No, it’s not really possible, and possibly irrational, but I don’t care. I despise the vast majority of Yankee fans, and will not tolerate another winter of hearing about how fucking great they are for buying a 27th goddamned World Series. I suppose if you’re not from NY you haven’t seen the stories and headlines about how they’re ‘back where they belong’ and such bullshit. Frankly, I’m hoping for an all-out beanball war which leaves both teams too short-handed to actually finish the series. At minimum, I want Dicktorino to slide hard into 2nd, tearing his own hamstring while and Jeter’s at the same time. Perhaps then, the two fanbases will eliminate each other, Hatfields and McCoys style.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
.. I take it you won't be going to the parade ?
by fxcarden on Oct 26, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually work on Chambers St, right next to the parade route.
I’ve already informed the office that I will not be in on the day of a victory parade. Even if it weren’t the Yankees, the crowds make it impossible to get anywhere all day. During the Giants parade, we couldn’t leave the building, and drunken morons in brand-new jerseys started a small riot on Reade St, even stomping on cop cars. So yeah, I think I’ll stay home that day.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will admit...
I was in my high school’s marching band, and we participated in the parade in 2000. I met Paul O’Neil, who seemed a genuinely nice guy, and Mike Stanton (I think)- they were both going around and meeting us kids a little bit before their floats/vehicles/whatever left the staging area. Going down the avenue with all of the paper, it was pretty cool.
My favorite part was the fact that I was wearing my Piazza T-Shirt under my marching band uniform. I got a lot of crap for that after everything was done, when we were heading back to Staten Island on the busses, when I took my uniform shirt off. It was a “bury-the-jersey-of-David-Ortiz-in-your-new-stadium” kind of move, I was hoping. And, hey, the Yankees haven’t won the World Series since…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one time, at band camp,
I buried my Mike Piazza jersey near a rock where Mariano took a dump once.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, it gave Rivera a case of the svatzatzania that haunts him every year
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too hypothetical.
Why not just go IRA on everyone at the game?
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has been the worst season by far for me as a Mets fan.
I will not torture myself any longer with this World Series. I will look at it from a purely Fire Joe Morgan perspective and call the media on their bullshit. I can see them already doing it with A-rod.
by aparkermarshall on Oct 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this guy having a WS ring is still the biggest tragedy of them all
oh how i hate him so
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
by kendynamo on Oct 27, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's a stud though.
I really do think it is different with Chipper then a guy like Victorino, cuz while we hate Larry (and believe me, I HATE him), I hate him for what he has done to us on the baseball field with his talent, and I hate him because I know how good he is, I respect him as a ball player and I wouldn’t hate him if he didn’t personally rip our hearts out time after time. I don’t have any respect for Victorino, he is some mediocre douche bag who will be forgotten when he stops playing. If Larry played for Houston for 20 years, I doubt we would hate him, and while we may not hate Victorino either playing on Houston, we would still know what a little bitch he is.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus a million
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sums things up perfectly
Jones, we hate him because he’s great, and that talent always seems to manifest itself as a Mets loss. Victorino, he’s not. Arguably, he’s good, on average, he’s okay. The guy still hasn’t put up a single season with a BA over .300, or with more than 15 HR, or 75 RBI. Comparing his stats, he’s most similar to Rocco Baldelli, Bernard Gilkey, Kevin Bass…Not a whole lot of amazing talent in the pool. The sports media has a hard-on for his supposed grission and has a “love affair” with him when there’s no actual reason for it.
Jose Reyes had a very similar season that Victorino had this season- .297 BA, 16 HR, 68 RBI, 56 steals, and all you hear are people jumping on his back- his stills are going to drop precipitously, trade him while he still has talent, he’s a no-good, overrated nobody, blah, blah, blah…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I root for the Yankees.
One, if they win, we get Holliday.
Two, if they win, we never again have to hear about how unclutch and cancerous A-Rod is to any team trying to win the world series. It may hurt as Met fans, but that would be a victory to me, as a baseball fan, to not have to listen to one of the best players ever be scrutinized and ripped apart like he is some nobody. For us younger guys, we will be telling our kids/grandkids how A-Rod and Pujols owned this generation. To hear people talk about A-Rod now, you would think he is Mike Lowell.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Oct 27, 2009 2:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I’ve always liked ARod. It kinda annoys me that now Yankees fans love him, but oh well
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants fan here
We hate Victorino to. He was voted to the All-Star game when Pablo Sandoval should have been voted it. Then when Beltran couldn’t attend the game, Fat Chuck gave the spot to one of his own players instead of Sandoval.
So go Yankees!
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that's a good enough reason for me.
Sandoval should have went in some capacity last year.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or this year.
whatever.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not watching it.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Oct 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting for the Phillies
I know too many douchey, obnoxious Yankees fans, and I don’t want them to have the satisfaction of winning another World Series.
I’m sure Phillies fans are just as douchey and obnoxious, maybe more so, but I don’t know any Phillies fans. Their winning of a World Series doesn’t directly affect my life.
Also, in a few years, the Phillies may be irrelevant again, and the rivalry will be essentially over. The Mets vs. Yankees feud will always stand though. It has stood since the days of the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Baseball Giants.
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually that is nonsense
The Mets Yankees feud was non exsistent in the 60’s, 70’s and most if not all of the 1980’s.
by Endys Game on Oct 27, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, there isn't such thing as a Mets-Yankees feud even now.
We meet six times the entire season now, in games that take place during such a time that they don’t matter all that much, as the standings are still very morphic. It’s not so much a feud as it is a fight for temporary bragging rights.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which don't matter, anyway.
New York will always be a Yankees town. And honestly, I’ve come to terms with that. What I DON’T want is for my state, NJ, to become a Phillies state as far up as Northern Jersey.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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