Congratulations, Yankees! You Did It!
by Eric Simon on Oct 26, 2009 1:05 AM EDT
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Welcome to my nightmare.
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My goal
is to not watch a second of the WS live. And it’s going to be on in my house whether I like it or not, so it won’t be easy.
And it should also be
Congratulations, Yankees! You Bought It!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
At least we're gettin some bang for our buck
How can you even make payroll jokes? Crazy talk.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
If over the last two off seasons
a team paid A-rod, Teixeira, Sabathia and Burnett, they’d be in the World Series too. Do you think your team is in the playoffs with a $150 million payroll?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Paying lots of money doesn't guarantee anything.
Otherwise the Yankees would be beating the Mets in the World Series every year. Mets have outspent every NL team for years now and what do you have to show for it? Nothing.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, your team spends so much money
the second-highest payroll in the game is still nowhere even close to theirs. It’s like saying that Iceland has the 2nd-largest army in the world after China.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Ignore the Yanks for a second,
Yall are still spending more cheddar than everybody else in beisbol, but without the results.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It certainly helps.
Especially when you spend the money on the right players, that is to say, not $12 million a year on Oliver Perez. Any team that can afford to sign the guys I mentioned above will be contenders, and even the Mets couldn’t afford that. Look, I’m not trying to take anything away from the Yankees, they are the most talented team in the league, but that talent came with a large price tag.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Very true, it has cost a boatload.
Whatever, at least the Steinbrenners and Wilpons actually spend it. Most owners are content to pocket everything and complain about the Yanks.
Anyway the main reason I came here was to see who Mets fans were rooting for. Outside of a natural disaster, I figured most would root for the Yanks b/c all Mets fans hate the Phillies but not all Mets fans hate the Yanks.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Never the Yankees.
Never. Unless they’re playing Al Qaeda, Victory-style.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
hell no
im all for phils, at least as much as I can be cheering for either of these teams.. yankees hatred runs deeper, the phils is just a fresher wound.
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
but honestly, the yankees don't even matter.
we play them 6 times a year. so what?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
b/c the Mets have the 2nd highest payroll
and yet they’re closer to the 10th team than they are the Yankees.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
It's all relative
The Yankees outspend 100% of all MLB teams.
The Mets outspend 96%.
How did the Rays manage to get to the WS? How did the Marlins win 2 rings on a shoestring budget?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
the United States outspends 100% of all countries in military spending
Great Britain outspends 99%. The US spends $600 billion dollars a year more than Britain. Do you really think they’re anywhere near an equal footing?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I'm not saying we're on equal footing
but you still have an advantage over every other team in baseball.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Not with Jeff, Omar and Jerry we aren't
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
considering you have $50 mil more than the next competitor...
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
God, I do not look forward to going to work tomorrow.
Worst World Series ever. I can’t even take pleasure in a Yankees’ loss. I’ve already informed my office that I won’t be in if there’s a victory parade.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
there will be a day
when we win, hopefully.
and that day, i don’t care if i’m president of the united states of america, i’m doing enough drugs to kill a small asian village and running around naked burning things. and verily, it will be awesome.
by firejerrymanuel on Oct 26, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions
This is perhaps,
the single worst event in the history of the world.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
this is pretty awful
but I still say ‘99 was worse, mostly b/c the Mets came so close and I was in my Yankee hating prime back then. I’ve been numb to baseball since July, I don’t hate the Yankees nearly as much as I used to (mostly b/c they aren’t coming off a 118 win season and 2 titles), and while I hate the Phillies more than I hated the Braves, it’s not as bad as this matchup would have been 2 years ago, for example.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
agree with you cjmulrain
1999 WS was the worst ever. We alomost come back down 3 games to 0 and than the Braves didn’t even bother to show up against the Yankees.
Welcome to my nightmare
was the exact same thing I posted on my Facebook page right after they won.
I think we're due
for a meteor in the Bronx right around Wednesday
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
I don't get the anger over the Yankees spending $$
If the Mets spent like that I’d be thrilled. It’s not like they’re breaking the rules.
by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't call it anger
Perhaps resentment. You can’t understand that? Are you a NY banker, perhaps? ;)
Why do the Yankees have 26 championships? Because they’ve been able to buy them. The biggest city, with the most money available to buy players, throughout baseball’s history. Why did they have Ruth? Because they could pay the crazy cash that nobody else could.
If baseball is just numbers, then sure, the biggest number wins, yay for the biggest number. If baseball is cities and players and fans, if it’s people, then seeing the biggest number win out time after time after time (speaking globally, through baseball’s whole history), well, as a story, that’s a little lacking, a little uninteresting, a little depressing. You can’t see that?
Baseball is not just about the biggest number, and that’s why it remains compelling. I forget the details, but over the past 30 years, there have been like 15 different champions? Something like that. An impressive diversity in any case. So the biggest number doesn’t always win, it’s not just a boring calculation. But throughout baseball’s history, the Yankees win!! And the rest of us resent their dollar-fueled dominance. It is as it should be.
well, right
the biggest payroll doesn’t always win. I mean, that’s just part of the randomness of the game, especially in five-game or seven-game series. but the biggest payroll drastically improves your chances of winning.
(especially when it’s spent intelligently, as opposed to the Mets.)
I'm not a banker
but I don’t begrudge rich people or rich teams from spending their money however they choose. My heart isn’t bleeding for the Pirates and Marlins.
by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't
be so thrilled to win win with such a competitive advantage. Sure, I would be happy, but I would be a lot happier if we could win by at least beating teams that are in our neighborhood payroll-wise. I always get a little uneasy when people suggest signing everyone under the sun as a solution to all our problems and pulling away from the second tier (non-Yankees) teams.
If last year you would have told me that we could sign Manny, Teixeira, F-Rod, CC, and Lowe and be guaranteed a championship, or end up with the 2009 Mets season, I would have taken the latter.
Eh, I guess we gotta hope the Yanks win
Notice I don’t use the term ‘root for’. A Yankees-Phillies World Series is just about the worst possible combination for a Mets fan. Of the two, I’m more partial to the Yankees and the Phillies. I rationalize it like this: The Yankees are our rich, asshole cousin who we don’t see very often. The Phillies are the asshole next door neighbors. Of the two, I’d rather side with our dumb cousin than our dumb neighbor. At least, with our cousin who we don’t like, we have some commonality between us. Our neighbors? We just don’t like them, period.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions
No fans
are as entitled and smug about their organization like Yankee fans though (Sox are getting close though). Between the Lakers, Yankees and Duke/UNC I can’t imagine any fans being more arrogant about their teams.
Also, I get so tired of Yankee fans and their “true yankee” and love for mediocre players like Scott Brosius while villifying Arod for the last 5 years. Arod would have always been appreciated in Flushing.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
my personal list of fans whom I've find to be smug and entitled
Yankees (obviously)
Red Sox (recently, anyway)
Arsenal FC
Duke basketball
Syracuse lacrosse
Michigan hockey
I’m sure the Lakers would also be on this list if I actually knew any Lakers fans. Probably the Braves of 5-15 years ago, too.
Cowboys fans?
Also, just imagine what Phillies fans will be like if they win back-to-back championships.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I agree with 1, 2, and 5.
Arsenal’s not that great anymore (still good, but a tier below Man U and Chelsea, and even behind maybe Liverpool), Duke basketball is unique in that it’s one of the few schools that is central to a major NCAA sport and still is one of the best schools in the country (Stanford as well, for example). And idk enough about Michigan hockey.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Thats ironic.
I know a guy who is a Yankees, Cowboys and Arsenal fan.
He’s also definitely a smug annoyance when it comes to sports at times.
I have despised Yankee fans my whole life
But I cannot wish for Phillie to get two championships in a row. Unbearable. If the Yankees win, they will have bought it, and that’s how I’ll explain it to myself and be content. If the Phillies win, well, last year they had what should have been ours (in my poor battered psyche), and I cannot see them get another one. It would be unbearable.
"Arod would have always been appreciated in Flushing."
I hope you that you’d have been right about this, although you might want to take into account the numbers of Mets fans who harbor irrational dislike for Voltron and Reyes.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions
Yea
it is a pretty big assumption as exemplified by Voltron and Reyes that is true.
Let us all just follow the words of Metsradamus here. There is no baseball anymore. Until March of 2010.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn straight.
I hate to not watch the WS but I just can’t get behind the idea of either one of these teams winning it. I’d rather just watch early season hockey.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Piazza got booed too
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I was going to do this, but you any of you guys would do a better job....
I wanted to take A-Rod’s numbers since 2000 when he could have become a Met, and somehow measure how much better we could have been with him.
I figure from 2000 to 2004, he would have played SS, and then maybe played 3rd from 2005 on. Yes, I realize that means DW is not a Met, but this is just a paper exercise. If you want you can pretend DW is at 3rd and JR is not a Met.
The other assumption would have been that everything else including injuries would have stayed the same.
I guess the easiest way to do this is to do it based on straight WAR… no ?.
Nah, I always figured that if we'd signed Rodriguez,
we’d moved him second, first, or left. Or Wright to first or left.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
As somebody said elswhere,
it’s like being forced to choose between syphillis & gonnorhea.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
"Base ball?"
What is this “base ball” you speak of?
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
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