Congratulations, Yankees! You Did It!

by Eric Simon on Oct 26, 2009 1:05 AM EDT Comment 59 comments

Welcome to my nightmare.

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Heaven Help Us All!

Beer is good! And stuff!

by R_Adragna on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My goal

is to not watch a second of the WS live. And it’s going to be on in my house whether I like it or not, so it won’t be easy.

by Mount17 on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Title should be

Empire strikes back.

by mnbv on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

And it should also be

Congratulations, Yankees! You Bought It!

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least we're gettin some bang for our buck

How can you even make payroll jokes? Crazy talk.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If over the last two off seasons

a team paid A-rod, Teixeira, Sabathia and Burnett, they’d be in the World Series too. Do you think your team is in the playoffs with a $150 million payroll?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Paying lots of money doesn't guarantee anything.

Otherwise the Yankees would be beating the Mets in the World Series every year. Mets have outspent every NL team for years now and what do you have to show for it? Nothing.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again, your team spends so much money

the second-highest payroll in the game is still nowhere even close to theirs. It’s like saying that Iceland has the 2nd-largest army in the world after China.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ignore the Yanks for a second,

Yall are still spending more cheddar than everybody else in beisbol, but without the results.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Enjoy your pennant

and go away. We’re all aware of how horrible our front office is.

by Sam Page on Oct 26, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially when you spend the money on the right players, that is to say, not $12 million a year on Oliver Perez. Any team that can afford to sign the guys I mentioned above will be contenders, and even the Mets couldn’t afford that. Look, I’m not trying to take anything away from the Yankees, they are the most talented team in the league, but that talent came with a large price tag.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very true, it has cost a boatload.

Whatever, at least the Steinbrenners and Wilpons actually spend it. Most owners are content to pocket everything and complain about the Yanks.

Anyway the main reason I came here was to see who Mets fans were rooting for. Outside of a natural disaster, I figured most would root for the Yanks b/c all Mets fans hate the Phillies but not all Mets fans hate the Yanks.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not me

The last thing I need is to hear from everyone I know how great the Yanks are and how bad the Mets suck.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never the Yankees.

Never. Unless they’re playing Al Qaeda, Victory-style.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn you.

You stole my line.

by fxcarden on Oct 26, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hell no

im all for phils, at least as much as I can be cheering for either of these teams.. yankees hatred runs deeper, the phils is just a fresher wound.

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but honestly, the yankees don't even matter.

we play them 6 times a year. so what?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 27, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

b/c the Mets have the 2nd highest payroll

and yet they’re closer to the 10th team than they are the Yankees.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's all relative

The Yankees outspend 100% of all MLB teams.

The Mets outspend 96%.

How did the Rays manage to get to the WS? How did the Marlins win 2 rings on a shoestring budget?

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the United States outspends 100% of all countries in military spending

Great Britain outspends 99%. The US spends $600 billion dollars a year more than Britain. Do you really think they’re anywhere near an equal footing?

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying we're on equal footing

but you still have an advantage over every other team in baseball.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 26, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not with Jeff, Omar and Jerry we aren't

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

They add -$50 million to the payroll.

by mnbv on Oct 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

considering you have $50 mil more than the next competitor...

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

God, I do not look forward to going to work tomorrow.

Worst World Series ever. I can’t even take pleasure in a Yankees’ loss. I’ve already informed my office that I won’t be in if there’s a victory parade.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 26, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

there will be a day

when we win, hopefully.

and that day, i don’t care if i’m president of the united states of america, i’m doing enough drugs to kill a small asian village and running around naked burning things. and verily, it will be awesome.

by firejerrymanuel on Oct 26, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Worst World Series ever

by JoshNY on Oct 26, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is perhaps,

the single worst event in the history of the world.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 26, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is pretty awful

but I still say ‘99 was worse, mostly b/c the Mets came so close and I was in my Yankee hating prime back then. I’ve been numb to baseball since July, I don’t hate the Yankees nearly as much as I used to (mostly b/c they aren’t coming off a 118 win season and 2 titles), and while I hate the Phillies more than I hated the Braves, it’s not as bad as this matchup would have been 2 years ago, for example.

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agree with you cjmulrain

1999 WS was the worst ever. We alomost come back down 3 games to 0 and than the Braves didn’t even bother to show up against the Yankees.

by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice pic.

by SuperT on Oct 26, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to my nightmare

was the exact same thing I posted on my Facebook page right after they won.

by shwebsi on Oct 26, 2009 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we're due

for a meteor in the Bronx right around Wednesday

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't get the anger over the Yankees spending $$

If the Mets spent like that I’d be thrilled. It’s not like they’re breaking the rules.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree. That's not really a stance a Mets fan can take.

And let’s go….natural disaster.

by dtro on Oct 26, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't call it anger

Perhaps resentment. You can’t understand that? Are you a NY banker, perhaps? ;)

Why do the Yankees have 26 championships? Because they’ve been able to buy them. The biggest city, with the most money available to buy players, throughout baseball’s history. Why did they have Ruth? Because they could pay the crazy cash that nobody else could.

If baseball is just numbers, then sure, the biggest number wins, yay for the biggest number. If baseball is cities and players and fans, if it’s people, then seeing the biggest number win out time after time after time (speaking globally, through baseball’s whole history), well, as a story, that’s a little lacking, a little uninteresting, a little depressing. You can’t see that?

Baseball is not just about the biggest number, and that’s why it remains compelling. I forget the details, but over the past 30 years, there have been like 15 different champions? Something like that. An impressive diversity in any case. So the biggest number doesn’t always win, it’s not just a boring calculation. But throughout baseball’s history, the Yankees win!! And the rest of us resent their dollar-fueled dominance. It is as it should be.

by SuperT on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, right

the biggest payroll doesn’t always win. I mean, that’s just part of the randomness of the game, especially in five-game or seven-game series. but the biggest payroll drastically improves your chances of winning.

(especially when it’s spent intelligently, as opposed to the Mets.)

by JoshNY on Oct 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a banker

but I don’t begrudge rich people or rich teams from spending their money however they choose. My heart isn’t bleeding for the Pirates and Marlins.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nope although i have some sympathy for their fans

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't

be so thrilled to win win with such a competitive advantage. Sure, I would be happy, but I would be a lot happier if we could win by at least beating teams that are in our neighborhood payroll-wise. I always get a little uneasy when people suggest signing everyone under the sun as a solution to all our problems and pulling away from the second tier (non-Yankees) teams.

If last year you would have told me that we could sign Manny, Teixeira, F-Rod, CC, and Lowe and be guaranteed a championship, or end up with the 2009 Mets season, I would have taken the latter.

by Mount17 on Oct 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, I guess we gotta hope the Yanks win

Notice I don’t use the term ‘root for’. A Yankees-Phillies World Series is just about the worst possible combination for a Mets fan. Of the two, I’m more partial to the Yankees and the Phillies. I rationalize it like this: The Yankees are our rich, asshole cousin who we don’t see very often. The Phillies are the asshole next door neighbors. Of the two, I’d rather side with our dumb cousin than our dumb neighbor. At least, with our cousin who we don’t like, we have some commonality between us. Our neighbors? We just don’t like them, period.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No fans

are as entitled and smug about their organization like Yankee fans though (Sox are getting close though). Between the Lakers, Yankees and Duke/UNC I can’t imagine any fans being more arrogant about their teams.

Also, I get so tired of Yankee fans and their “true yankee” and love for mediocre players like Scott Brosius while villifying Arod for the last 5 years. Arod would have always been appreciated in Flushing.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my personal list of fans whom I've find to be smug and entitled

Yankees (obviously)
Red Sox (recently, anyway)
Arsenal FC
Duke basketball
Syracuse lacrosse
Michigan hockey

I’m sure the Lakers would also be on this list if I actually knew any Lakers fans. Probably the Braves of 5-15 years ago, too.

by JoshNY on Oct 26, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cowboys fans?

Also, just imagine what Phillies fans will be like if they win back-to-back championships.

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, yep.

Cowboys and prospective Phillies are in there too.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with 1, 2, and 5.

Arsenal’s not that great anymore (still good, but a tier below Man U and Chelsea, and even behind maybe Liverpool), Duke basketball is unique in that it’s one of the few schools that is central to a major NCAA sport and still is one of the best schools in the country (Stanford as well, for example). And idk enough about Michigan hockey.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats ironic.

I know a guy who is a Yankees, Cowboys and Arsenal fan.

He’s also definitely a smug annoyance when it comes to sports at times.

by Balagast on Oct 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have despised Yankee fans my whole life

But I cannot wish for Phillie to get two championships in a row. Unbearable. If the Yankees win, they will have bought it, and that’s how I’ll explain it to myself and be content. If the Phillies win, well, last year they had what should have been ours (in my poor battered psyche), and I cannot see them get another one. It would be unbearable.

by SuperT on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Arod would have always been appreciated in Flushing."

I hope you that you’d have been right about this, although you might want to take into account the numbers of Mets fans who harbor irrational dislike for Voltron and Reyes.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea

it is a pretty big assumption as exemplified by Voltron and Reyes that is true.

Let us all just follow the words of Metsradamus here. There is no baseball anymore. Until March of 2010.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn straight.

I hate to not watch the WS but I just can’t get behind the idea of either one of these teams winning it. I’d rather just watch early season hockey.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Piazza got booed too

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, to be fair...

they ARE hispanic.
/jokes

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was going to do this, but you any of you guys would do a better job....

I wanted to take A-Rod’s numbers since 2000 when he could have become a Met, and somehow measure how much better we could have been with him.

I figure from 2000 to 2004, he would have played SS, and then maybe played 3rd from 2005 on. Yes, I realize that means DW is not a Met, but this is just a paper exercise. If you want you can pretend DW is at 3rd and JR is not a Met.

The other assumption would have been that everything else including injuries would have stayed the same.

I guess the easiest way to do this is to do it based on straight WAR… no ?.

by fxcarden on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs