Chapman Applesauce - Mets out of Chapman bidding, Phillips fired from ESPN, McGwire is new Cards hitting coach

by Joe Budd on Oct 26, 2009 10:25 AM EDT in Applesauce Comment 15 comments

Meet the Mets

So, I take it that the Mets' meeting with Aroldis Chapman did not go so over so well.

Metsradamus makes a good point. Why do I have to root for anyone in this World Series?

Steve Phillips is out at ESPN. Permanently.

Around the NL East

The Phillies will start Cliff Lee in game 1 against the Yankees, but beyond that is anyone's guess.

Around MLB

Tony LaRussa will reportedly return next year to manage the Cardinals. He'll also be joined by Mark McGwire.

The Cleveland Indians have given their managerial job to potential Met third base coach Manny Acta.

There was much griping following the ALCS regarding the scheduling. Mike Scioscia participated. Twinkie Town as pipes in as well.

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A buddy of mine who is a Red Sox fan summed it up nicely:

“The Yankees are like a rich guy who buys every lottery ticket available, and then brags to all their friends about how they won the lottery.”

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 26, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what does that make the Mets?

We buy a lot of lottery tickets and then fill them out with the same numbers? or maybe we just tear them up?

by Endys Game on Oct 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We didn't buy any tickets, because we invested too much in a pyramid scheme.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+10000000

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Oct 26, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or...

The Yankees are like a giant corporation that buys a couple of a million Wonka bars, then gives three of the golden tickets to George Steinbrenner and his sons.

This one was random – just some spontaneous example.

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Oct 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No possibilities of Chapman: If that price range is accurate, I’m not that disappointed. He’s talented no doubt, but not worth a $40-$60 million dollar signing/bonus contract. Oliver Perez is also talented-but-wild, and is not worth his $36 million dollars. How could anyone justify an even bigger paycheck to a guy who seems in a similar mold as Perez- a pitched who seems very talented, but lacks “true” experience and control? By the guys own admission, he is “80 percent ready for MLB right now”. Giving a proven, good pitcher a $40-$60 million dollar contract is something I can accept. Giving a complete unknown that kind of money, regardless of how theoretically good he might someday become is something I couldn’t.

Steve Phillips: Ouch. That’s a big loss.

LaRussa: Everyone saw that coming. That’s interesting about McGwire, though. I’ll admit, I was a big fan of his, because the McGwire-Sosa-Griffey home run race in 1998 got me into baseball, and McGwire was my first “baseball hero” as a kid. He kinda exiled himself after the Congressional steroid hearings, and his name is still pretty tainted, so I wonder how this will affect his chances to get into the HoF, his legacy…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stephen Strasburg 4.0!

The only difference here is that Chapman will go undrafted.

I skipped 2.0 and 3.0 because this debacle has gone too far in magnitude!

And I’m pretty sure that Scott Borass* is Chapman’s agent.

* Nope, I spelled that correctly.

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Oct 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pricetag

You can put a $40 million pricetag on anything; that doesn’t mean that the market will pay it.

He’s a completely unproven player with no almost no real track record. Maybe the Yankees would consider paying that, but with no one to bid against the price will likely come way down.

by DoghouseBlues on Oct 26, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

cool news about Big Mac

I always liked him, steroids or no. Glad to see he’ll be returning to baseball. I’ve heard that during the offseason a couple of players have sought him out over the past few years, so I could see him being a good coach.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

After reading that bit on Chapman I happened across Cerrone's piece on Holliday vs Bay

…bay is the better fielder, with the better outfield arm…

Then I read that and vomited a little bit in my mouth and remembered why I told myself to never read that terrible site again.

by Balagast on Oct 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

what an idiot

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Oct 26, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But Holliday dropped a fly ball in the playoffs

he’s clearly not a clutch fielder.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Oct 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well,

Jason Bay just BARELY nicked Matt Holliday by a half inch or so in defensive “prowess”, in terms of coverage at least.

Jason Bay: 2.2 RF/G and 1.000 FPCT (2009), 1.9 RF/G and 0.988 FPCT (career)
Matt Holliday: 1.8 RF/G and 0.983 FPCT (2009), 1.8 RF/G and 0.980 FPCT (career)

HOWEVER, the dispute for who has the better arm is subject to debate. But consider this:

Jason Bay: -0.7 arm rating (2009), -3.8 adjusted arm rating (career)
Matt Holliday: -2.3 arm rating (2009), -3.0 adjusted arm rating (career)

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Oct 27, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matt Holliday is literally

100000000000000000000000000000000000 times the fielder Bay is. It’s not even close. Holliday has been like the second best left fielder in baseball the past few years while Bay has been the worst.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Oct 28, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs