Alomar, Shines, Alicea Out; Warthen, Johnson In

1st base coach Luis Alicea will not be back on the Mets coaching staff in 2010. 3rd base coach Razor Shines will be back with the organization, but not as 3rd base coach (pop the champagne). Sandy Alomar Sr. will also be re-assigned, exiting his bench coach role. Pitching coach Dan Warthen, hitting coach Howard Johnson and bullpen coach Randy Niemann will retain their jobs.

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I was really hoping for no more Warthen

o well

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Oct 5, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions

With our luck

Razor Shines will be replaced by Dale Sveum.

by Reg Dunlop on Oct 5, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions

My guess:

Luis Aguayo

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 5, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

#mets planning to bring back feisty ’86 hero wally backman in minor-league coaching role. they could use a little spunk.

via @SI_JonHeyman – Jon Heyman

by nelsonc on Oct 5, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions

Wait, let me fix

they could use a little ~~spunk~~ insane screaming bunting cursing coach, who probably has some more skeletons in the closet we don’t know about yet

by James Kannengieser on Oct 5, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Blart

This all but guarantees that Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya are going nowhere. Not that a manager can’t be fired while the pitching and hitting coaches are retained, but that particular outcome seems unlikely.

by Eric Simon on Oct 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions

man how did warthen and hojo keep their jobs

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions

You have a typo

man how did ~~warthen and hojo~~ jerry manuel keep ~~their jobs~~ his job

There.

by Eric Simon on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions

oh well sure, but that doesnt come as a surprise to me

I really thought warthen and hojo were toast. Sadly we’re stuck with essentially the exact same coaching staff that failed this year now. Except we’re moving the windmill to another position. Maybe now we’ll just get thrown out stretching singles into doubles instead of at home!

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 5, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Well, like Matt Cerrone posited over at MetsBlog:

… razor and jerry are tight, and razor’s positives, i.e. his attittude, positivity and encouragement, are probably better served sitting by jerry’s side…

I shudder to think of Jerry and Razor acting as a single brain-trust.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 5, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions

but he's our third base coach of life

without him, the mets wont know how to live. And I think they may be confusing positivity, attitude, and encouragement with waving your arm in a circle at every possible opportunity. He’ll probably take over for Alomar. With him as bench coach the players will definitely increase their OBP, so they don’t have to spend as much time on the bench listening to him.

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 5, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Nice

Razor will have more of a Tom Hagen role with the team. Our prayers are answered.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 5, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

If anyone wants to try and script this scenario, please go ahead.

All I’ve got is this short exchange compiled using the “Third Base Coach of Life” website:

Jerry: Hmm, Santana looks tired. Should I bring in Stokes?
Razor: Ahh, that’s a can of corn!
Jerry: So, is that a yes?
Razor: You’ll always get a straight answer from Razor. Except for right now.
Jerry: So yes or no?
Razor: GO GO GO GO GO GO (waving arm)!. I’ve got to get this one home; ask me again later. GO GO GO GO GO GO!
Jerry: Huh?
Razor: Thanks for sharing.
Jerry: Yeah, uh, gangsta.
Razor: Relax. Just play catch out there.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 5, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Razor Shines' promotion

reminds me of when i got promoted from dishwasher to waiter, just by breaking a lot of dishes

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 5, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

I always thought

it was all Luis Alicea’s fault.

by Mount17 on Oct 5, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions

exactly

we can rest easy now. Luis Alicea’s days of ripping off his shirt and berating minor league players are certainly over. And players didn’t like the way he took their helmets and batting gloves after they got on base.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 5, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

And my hopes for 2010 have been dashed.

My only hope for 2010 now is that they are on a very short leash. Not that it matters because I know where this offseason is going…. nowhere. I’ll be in the corner weeping, waiting for the 3 year, $36 million contract for Frenchy to be announced.

by aparkermarshall on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions

Actually I'm fine with this

These guys are peripheral problems at worst. Jerry and Omar are the central issues for me, and I’m not going to get upset that Warthen or Johnson get to stick around.

by deadspy3 on Oct 5, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions

except

this seems to signal those two will be back. Why fire half your coaching staff but not the head guys?

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 5, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions