Mets Get Chris Carter, Eddie Lora From Red Sox For Billy Wagner
by Eric Simon on Oct 7, 2009 5:50 PM EDT
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I guess it's official now.
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Hmmm
I think that’s a kind of low-to-middling haul
by deadspy3 on Oct 7, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God I hope he doesn't reject a Sox arb offer
by Bieser's Balk on Oct 7, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if he rejects it
Depending on his status they will get 1 or 2 draft picks for him.
by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 7:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
but even if he had him
and he rejected our offer of arb. our first round pick is protected cuz we sucked a fattie
by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Carter, Lora, 3.5 million, and a few million not spent on draft picks.
If we use that money to fix the ML roster, I can live with this. Shitty haul if we go into cost cutting mode.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
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by Schmidtxc on Oct 7, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What does a "a few million not spent on draft picks"
have to do with this trade?
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by Sam Page on Oct 7, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's referring to the extra draft picks we won't be getting
if we had offered Wags arbitration
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 7, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Wagner declines arbitration
this trade was a disaster.
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then it will be a disaster.
I’m sure Wagner expects to close for another team.
by DC4Three on Oct 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lora=suck
.287 OPB in GCL. And he’s 20.
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by firejerrynow on Oct 7, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
34 games, 108 abs in the gulf coast league, with an injured wrist.
It’s way too small a sample size to judge. He had a .455 OBP (15.5 % BB rate) the prior season in th DSL with a slightly larger sample size, which is also too small to reach a judgement. The difference in the two sets of data should at least cause us to look for a larger sample before reaching a conclusion.
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by Schmidtxc on Oct 7, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=lora--001edd
His walk rate was excellent in 2007 and 2008
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by Schmidtxc on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His walk rate was excellent in 2007 and 2008
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=lora—001edd
Hopefully this works better.
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-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, but he still is 20, and in the GCL.
usually, you should be higher up than that
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by firejerrynow on Oct 8, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next step is short season A ball,
where most 21 year old college draftees end up. Most other franchises take their time with their latin prospects.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Schmidtxc on Oct 8, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me.
That Carter would be more useful as a trade chip to an A.L. team.
by DC4Three on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to defend the trade or anything.
But what players from the Red Sox would have been a fair trade for a RP coming off Tommy John surgery?
by DC4Three on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is not an exciting way to start the offseason
that said, at least carter will provide some depth in buffalo.
by englishgrey on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fernando's gonna have to cover a lotta ground
If he’s flanked by Carter and Duda. Hopefully Ike can take over a big league role sometime next season and Nieuwenhuis or Duda can move up a level to help out defensively.
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What a fool I was to defy him"
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by Meddler on Oct 7, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck that
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 7, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
chris carter is a waste
that second X-files movie sucked
by hotspur on Oct 8, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted Berg believes Carter is a good pickup.
by DC4Three on Oct 8, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In a vaccum, sure.
But as our only pickup from Billy Wagner, a Type A free agent who is the most likely player to reject arb? Blahahljdslfjaf
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are you advocating that we should have kept Billy and just collected the two first round picks?
Or do you think the Mets got hosed by the Red Sox an should have gotten better players for him. And if so who?
by DC4Three on Oct 8, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either/or.
We probably weren’t gonna get good value from the Red Sox, but I guess I understand that they wanted to do it to have more control over who they got. But really, Chris Carter and some terrible player? That’s it?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 8, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
that’s the most compelling case for the actual trade I have seen. I was only moaning the other day about a lack of LHB on the bench, so this is an intriguing possibility. If he can be RF/1B/PH (lefty), spelling Francouer and occasionally Murph, and Nick Evans can be LF/1B/PH (righty), spelling Holliday (please!) and also occasionally Murph, then it might work out rather well.
by deadspy3 on Oct 8, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fourth outfielder
those guys both get to be fifth by also having the ability to play 1B
by deadspy3 on Oct 9, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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